[Sly Fox]

It is a thinly veiled shot at the working class. A 4-year apprenticeship in a technical field makes that person less educated. A skilled tradesman is clearly lacking in the mental capacities to form an opinion on their own.

[Jonathan Carone]

It's not a shot at the working class at all. You can be technically gifted and not as educated. That doesn't make you any less of a person or less talented at your job. It also doesn't mean you don't have the mental capacity to form an opinion. It just means there's not the base level education in the fields that a college education provides and that you would have to put more effort in to forming the educated opinion. It's specialization vs generalization.

[Purple Haize]

[Jonathan Carone]

Even educated people can be stupid.

[olldflame]

The actual figure? .046% About one death per 2200 Americans.

[Purple Haize]

https://edachorn.com/2020/07/27/the-rec ... -19-scare/

Another problem is that hospitals are reconsidering deaths from days, weeks or months ago, and attaching a COVID-19 label to them whenever possible. That is because the government rewards them with taxpayer dollars for each COVID-19 death. The process is called “harvesting.”

[RubberMallet]

It's not a shot at the working class at all. You can be technically gifted and not as educated. That doesn't make you any less of a person or less talented at your job. It also doesn't mean you don't have the mental capacity to form an opinion. It just means there's not the base level education in the fields that a college education provides and that you would have to put more effort in to forming the educated opinion. It's specialization vs generalization.

L.O.L.

[cruzan_flame13]

It's not a shot at the working class at all. You can be technically gifted and not as educated. That doesn't make you any less of a person or less talented at your job. It also doesn't mean you don't have the mental capacity to form an opinion. It just means there's not the base level education in the fields that a college education provides and that you would have to put more effort in to forming the educated opinion. It's specialization vs generalization.

Shout out to those receiving honorary doctorates

[LUDad]

As the body of evidence supporting the effectiveness of Hydroxycholorquine in early treatment and as a preventative for Covid-19 grows, it is interesting to see that a lot of the negative publicity for the drug is stemming from a curious source; people with ties to Gilead Sciences, the makers of "competing" drug remdesivir.

Why in the world would anyone want to buy a generic $1.00 bottle of asprin to relieve a headache when they can spend $2,000 for a bottle of the latest and greatest patented headache reliever?

[cruzan_flame13]

As the body of evidence supporting the effectiveness of Hydroxycholorquine in early treatment and as a preventative for Covid-19 grows, it is interesting to see that a lot of the negative publicity for the drug is stemming from a curious source; people with ties to Gilead Sciences, the makers of "competing" drug remdesivir.

Why in the world would anyone want to buy a generic $1.00 bottle of asprin to relieve a headache when they can spend $2,000 for a bottle of the latest and greatest patented headache reliever?

Pyramid scheme that many will willingly take the bait.

[Purple Haize]

As the body of evidence supporting the effectiveness of Hydroxycholorquine in early treatment and as a preventative for Covid-19 grows, it is interesting to see that a lot of the negative publicity for the drug is stemming from a curious source; people with ties to Gilead Sciences, the makers of "competing" drug remdesivir.

Why in the world would anyone want to buy a generic $1.00 bottle of asprin to relieve a headache when they can spend $2,000 for a bottle of the latest and greatest patented headache reliever?

Depends on the kind of headache and the type of relief it provides. Also what’s covered by insurance

[LUDad]

As the body of evidence supporting the effectiveness of Hydroxycholorquine in early treatment and as a preventative for Covid-19 grows, it is interesting to see that a lot of the negative publicity for the drug is stemming from a curious source; people with ties to Gilead Sciences, the makers of "competing" drug remdesivir.

Why in the world would anyone want to buy a generic $1.00 bottle of asprin to relieve a headache when they can spend $2,000 for a bottle of the latest and greatest patented headache reliever?

Depends on the kind of headache and the type of relief it provides. Also what’s covered by insurance

Only a pharma rep. could provide such an logical, insightful answer answer.

[Purple Haize]

Hey try the $1 solution if it delivers everything you want then great. If not....
And when you try the more expensive solution if you don’t think it’s worth the price difference at least you know you have options

[rtb72]

Your entire post failed to answer my question. How do you take HCQ without a prescription? In every source you provided it was prescribed. According to your last statement the people prescribing and running the clinics must be Trump supporters and lack the education or critical thinking and experience to hold the actual licenses and degrees they hold.
The fact you think a large portion of Trump supporters are uneducated and inexperienced lends one to believe you think non Trump supporters are much more educated and experienced. Which is only slightly insulting

And depending on how you define education and experience....patently false.

[rtb72]

The fact you think a large portion of Trump supporters are uneducated and inexperienced lends one to believe you think non Trump supporters are much more educated and experienced. Which is only slightly insulting

In the current population, white people without college degrees make up 42% of the population - one of the largest voting blocks we have.

59% of those voters are Republicans or lean Republican in 2019. That's the highest percentage of that vote going to one side since it's been tracked. According to a poll released last month by Pew, white men without a college education lean Republican 62% of the time.

In 2019, only 41% of college educated white people were conservative leaning. That's down 9 percentage points since 2012. In the three years since Trump was elected, he lost 6% of the white college educated voting block.

According to a study released last month by Pew, white non-college voters make up 57% of all GOP voters.

I'm sorry you feel insulted by those stats - it's not my intent at all. I'm simply looking at the data and comparing it to what I see anecdotally and the conclusion it tends to point to is a large portion of Trump's base is uneducated. Formal education isn't the end all be all and there are tons of smart people who haven't gotten a college degree, but there's a reason we value education in this country.

Yep. Makes people with no common sense feel important.

Yeah....that d%&n George Washington, James Monroe, Harry Truman (and others). They were so uneducated, dare I say, operating in "generalization". Didn't even have formal education from a college. Geez...

And the former Governor of Wisconsin. Couldn't pour pee out of a boot because he didn't have paperwork on the walls or letters after his name. "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education"-Mark Twain.

I've been dealing with quite a few of the "academia elites", aka smart educated left wing folks, in Raleigh, Fayetteville, and Charlotte....civil unrest. If this is what is considered "educated"...I don't want any. I've got three degrees....and not one taught me how to live or apply common sense and reasoning. The definition of "educated" as is applied in today's societal paradigm is terribly flawed.

[Purple Haize]

Reading some of the comments across the interwebs is disheartening
But I pray for peace for the family

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/former- ... virus.html

[LUDad]

The fact you think a large portion of Trump supporters are uneducated and inexperienced lends one to believe you think non Trump supporters are much more educated and experienced. Which is only slightly insulting

In the current population, white people without college degrees make up 42% of the population - one of the largest voting blocks we have.

59% of those voters are Republicans or lean Republican in 2019. That's the highest percentage of that vote going to one side since it's been tracked. According to a poll released last month by Pew, white men without a college education lean Republican 62% of the time.

In 2019, only 41% of college educated white people were conservative leaning. That's down 9 percentage points since 2012. In the three years since Trump was elected, he lost 6% of the white college educated voting block.

According to a study released last month by Pew, white non-college voters make up 57% of all GOP voters.

I'm sorry you feel insulted by those stats - it's not my intent at all. I'm simply looking at the data and comparing it to what I see anecdotally and the conclusion it tends to point to is a large portion of Trump's base is uneducated. Formal education isn't the end all be all and there are tons of smart people who haven't gotten a college degree, but there's a reason we value education in this country.

I would suggest that the college educated conservative vote has to overcome a lot of brainwashing from most college educators to still vole conservative. The "uneducated" walmart shoppers like me do not have to overcome that 4-8 years of bias to vote conservative.

Edit: "Give me just one generation of youth, and I'll transform the whole world." ...Vladimir Lenin

[olldflame]

Since we've been sorta having one here, I thought I'd post this. Here is what it sounds like when you aren't careful saying "mask debate".

[Purple Haize]

If you don’t stop you’ll go blind.....

[Purple Haize]

If obesity is a Covid risk factor and going to the gym is safe. Why are they closed? And if going to the gym is safe why aren’t athletics safe...

https://www.moodyonthemarket.com/michig ... m=facebook

[Jonathan Carone]

If obesity is a Covid risk factor and going to the gym is safe. Why are they closed? And if going to the gym is safe why aren’t athletics safe...

https://www.moodyonthemarket.com/michig ... m=facebook

Let me preface by saying I can't wait until my gym reopens.

The argument for keeping them closed is three fold:

1) People can exercise outside. They don't need gym equipment.

2) Gyms often have terrible airflow and people are breathing heavier/expelling significantly more air.

3) People often spend 45-90 minutes in a gym.

The combination of 2 and 3 are what is said to be the Petri dish needed for covid spread.

In Tennessee, gyms have been open but you have to wear a mask to work out. I'm all for wearing masks, but there's no way I could work out and wear a mask.

Personally, I think the responsible thing to do is open gyms at limited capacity with extra cleaning. That's what my gym was doing before we went into the Safer at Home and it was working really well. It allows the businesses to be open but keeps everyone safe.

[Purple Haize]

My gym has been open since May/June. Lots of sweaty contact. 0 Rona. 1 food poisoning
You’re right, people CAN exercise outside but it’s also been 90+ degrees outside so not a lot of people are going to do that. People join gyms for a reason. If they wanted to exercise outside they would and would probably not join a gym.
Again, the studies have shown (trust the science remember? Even ignorant trump voters) no Covid cases. So what to do what to do...

[Jonathan Carone]

I literally just said to open them up in the post above. Treat it just like we are treating restaurants and other indoor activities right now.

[Purple Haize]

I literally just said to open them up in the post above. Treat it just like we are treating restaurants and other indoor activities right now.

You did. But then put a bunch of restrictions on them.
Open them up. Full stop

[olldflame]

Yes, it is true they had a fairly high case and death rate earlier to get to this point, but not extraordinarily so Their economy was not shut down, and their kids are in school.