[ballcoach15]

I wish we had got the Peach Bowl vs Penn State. (though I'm not 100% sure PSU deserved a NY6 bowl.)

[RowdyBrad]

I will be going to Scottsdale for work in a couple months and will check out the wildlife sanctuary place and the butterfly sanctuary. There is also a car race museum and train place. I have 5 kids and 2 still younger, so I always look at the family type places. They also have a nice golf course.

[RowdyBrad]

I wish we had got the Peach Bowl vs Penn State. (though I'm not 100% sure PSU deserved a NY6 bowl.)

If the Rose Bowl wasn't a playoff game this year, it likely would have been Oregon versus Ohio State which is a classic Rose Bowl matchup. Penn State with their bad offense versus your team would be fun, see how PSU defense held up against the run.

[TH Spangler]

This would have been a good time for us to get our ND game.

[JK37]

I kind of want the same. Obviously, I want the Oregon team to be slightly ahead when the final time runs out, but I don't hope for a blowout. It is a no win situation for the Ducks, in that if they win the narrative will be all about a "g5 team" or "low sos" like you have been dealing with already. If the Ducks lose, well you can only imagine what that would do on our end. Ultimately, a close game where both teams are competitive and if the Ducks manage to get ahead they then play backups when they can and get kids playing time in the Bowl. They are allowed to travel the full team, so there are kids that have not suited up all year that get to go to the bowl from both teams and it means a ton to get in the game.

Injury free, competitive and some great plays from both sides would make for a great game AND prove that LU is to be taken seriously moving forward. Kind of like Boise State in 2007.

And now you see why we had no P5’s, and don’t have any next year either.

Nobody’s playing LU anymore. It’s the very definition of a Lose-Lose situation for them.

[ECC29]

I wish we had got the Peach Bowl vs Penn State. (though I'm not 100% sure PSU deserved a NY6 bowl.)

If the Rose Bowl wasn't a playoff game this year, it likely would have been Oregon versus Ohio State which is a classic Rose Bowl matchup. Penn State with their bad offense versus your team would be fun, see how PSU defense held up against the run.

LU vs Penn St would have been perfect for our fans as far location. Play the game at Baltimore Ravens stadium and that would have been the best game for both school. That stadium would have been full from both schools.

[JK37]

Yeah, because where I DREAM of going to a bowl is BALTIMORE.

[Tothehoopyall1]

Does anyone have $3,000 I can borrow or just have as a gift? I really want to go to the bowl game but I'm poor. I'm loyal but poor or loyally poor. I can't seem to escape the poor part; it keeps winning out. I could pay you back one of these years..

[Purple Haize]

Flight and Airbnb booked! Looking forward to Phoenix. Anybody have some recommendations for things to do and/or places to eat? Go Flames!

Maestro’s steak house is my 2nd favorite steak place in America.
Blanco Cochino (sp) is a regional Mexican place that I really like.
If you want to spend a full day you can get a tour from your place to Secona/Grand Canyon
The Zoo isn’t bad
There’s a Wildlife Refuge that I’ve been to a couple of times that’s really cool
Casino’s. Lots of nice casinos.
Top Golf
Also LOTS of golf.

[aredd33]

Flight and Airbnb booked! Looking forward to Phoenix. Anybody have some recommendations for things to do and/or places to eat? Go Flames!

Maestro’s steak house is my 2nd favorite steak place in America.
Blanco Cochino (sp) is a regional Mexican place that I really like.
If you want to spend a full day you can get a tour from your place to Secona/Grand Canyon
The Zoo isn’t bad
There’s a Wildlife Refuge that I’ve been to a couple of times that’s really cool
Casino’s. Lots of nice casinos.
Top Golf
Also LOTS of golf.

I saw Mastro's when hunting for steakhouses. It made the final list of three along with The Stockyards and Steak 44. Still searching for a breakfast place and TexMex/Mexican but Blanco Cocina & Cantina will certainly go on the list now.

Anybody else with knowledge of the area I'll gladly take more food recommendations.

[LU Grad 11]

Flight and Airbnb booked! Looking forward to Phoenix. Anybody have some recommendations for things to do and/or places to eat? Go Flames!

Maestro’s steak house is my 2nd favorite steak place in America.
Blanco Cochino (sp) is a regional Mexican place that I really like.
If you want to spend a full day you can get a tour from your place to Secona/Grand Canyon
The Zoo isn’t bad
There’s a Wildlife Refuge that I’ve been to a couple of times that’s really cool
Casino’s. Lots of nice casinos.
Top Golf
Also LOTS of golf.

Thanks, man! Will keep that in mind. Definitely want to get some hiking/sightseeing in. Maybe Sedona. Grand Canyon is a haul.

[Purple Haize]

Flight and Airbnb booked! Looking forward to Phoenix. Anybody have some recommendations for things to do and/or places to eat? Go Flames!

Maestro’s steak house is my 2nd favorite steak place in America.
Blanco Cochino (sp) is a regional Mexican place that I really like.
If you want to spend a full day you can get a tour from your place to Secona/Grand Canyon
The Zoo isn’t bad
There’s a Wildlife Refuge that I’ve been to a couple of times that’s really cool
Casino’s. Lots of nice casinos.
Top Golf
Also LOTS of golf.

Thanks, man! Will keep that in mind. Definitely want to get some hiking/sightseeing in. Maybe Sedona. Grand Canyon is a haul.

Camelback is right there in Scottsdale. I’ve hiked up it a couple times. Pretty nice.

[Purple Haize]

Flight and Airbnb booked! Looking forward to Phoenix. Anybody have some recommendations for things to do and/or places to eat? Go Flames!

Maestro’s steak house is my 2nd favorite steak place in America.
Blanco Cochino (sp) is a regional Mexican place that I really like.
If you want to spend a full day you can get a tour from your place to Secona/Grand Canyon
The Zoo isn’t bad
There’s a Wildlife Refuge that I’ve been to a couple of times that’s really cool
Casino’s. Lots of nice casinos.
Top Golf
Also LOTS of golf.

I saw Mastro's when hunting for steakhouses. It made the final list of three along with The Stockyards and Steak 44. Still searching for a breakfast place and TexMex/Mexican but Blanco Cocina & Cantina will certainly go on the list now.

Anybody else with knowledge of the area I'll gladly take more food recommendations.

Maestro will be at the high end of your choices but WELL worth the splurge. Did I mention the bacon you can get on top of the steak?
The Stockyards will be on the lower end of your list. Steak 44 is solid

We’ve had National Sales Meetings in Scottsdale the last 8 years plus one or two other times out there. Can’t remember all the restaurants

[LU 57]

We are flying out of BWI. Frontier sticker prices are not realistic but we did end up at about $600 per after all of the junk fees. And its direct. Only problem is we have to drive to BWI, yuk...

Going out of Charlotte on a reputable airline for $650ish is nice for us. Better than BWI. Ha

Since I am somewhat Baptist-sized I sprung for exit row seats

[Purple Haize]

On a Frontier flight that’s probably also the most prudent place to sit

[aredd33]

Maestro’s steak house is my 2nd favorite steak place in America.
Blanco Cochino (sp) is a regional Mexican place that I really like.
If you want to spend a full day you can get a tour from your place to Secona/Grand Canyon
The Zoo isn’t bad
There’s a Wildlife Refuge that I’ve been to a couple of times that’s really cool
Casino’s. Lots of nice casinos.
Top Golf
Also LOTS of golf.

I saw Mastro's when hunting for steakhouses. It made the final list of three along with The Stockyards and Steak 44. Still searching for a breakfast place and TexMex/Mexican but Blanco Cocina & Cantina will certainly go on the list now.

Anybody else with knowledge of the area I'll gladly take more food recommendations.

Maestro will be at the high end of your choices but WELL worth the splurge. Did I mention the bacon you can get on top of the steak?
The Stockyards will be on the lower end of your list. Steak 44 is solid

We’ve had National Sales Meetings in Scottsdale the last 8 years plus one or two other times out there. Can’t remember all the restaurants

I saw online Mastros and Steak 44 both have a dress code. I think that tells me a good bit about the quality.

[ECC29]

Yeah, because where I DREAM of going to a bowl is BALTIMORE.

This is about for the players and their battle in the field to determine the winner. This is what sports is all about. This is not about your feel-good vacation. You take your vacation elsewhere. This is also helps more fans able to attend the game. People are there for the game and cheers for their team to win. Take your vacation elsewhere.

[Cider Jim]

Yeah, because where I DREAM of going to a bowl is BALTIMORE.

This is about for the players and their battle in the field to determine the winner. This is what sports is all about. This is not about your feel-good vacation. You take your vacation elsewhere. This is also helps more fans able to attend the game. People are there for the game and cheers for their team to win. Take your vacation elsewhere.

With all due respect, I don't think ECC understands JK's use of SARCASM (notice the eyes roll).

[ECC29]

I apologize if I misunderstood. It’s difficult to pick up those things in these forums.

[JK37]

@Cider Jim I was absolutely saying Baltimore is a bad idea for a bowl. Ask the players if they’d like to play a bowl game in. Baltimore vs. Phoenix, I think they’d choose Phoenix.

But in a vacuum, if PSU and LU were to play a neutral game during the season, I could see Baltimore being an ideal location between the two schools. So I think I get what ECC is trying to say. I just wouldn’t put a bowl there.

Bowl games are an effort by host cities to generate revenue. Fans must travel and spend money. The problem with Baltimore is everyone would day-trip it, and the city would net a big loss.

And PSU would never play that game.

[ballcoach15]

Baltimore does not have a bowl game, thus one can't be played there presently.

[Purple Haize]

@Cider Jim I was absolutely saying Baltimore is a bad idea for a bowl. Ask the players if they’d like to play a bowl game in. Baltimore vs. Phoenix, I think they’d choose Phoenix.

But in a vacuum, if PSU and LU were to play a neutral game during the season, I could see Baltimore being an ideal location between the two schools. So I think I get what ECC is trying to say. I just wouldn’t put a bowl there.

Bowl games are an effort by host cities to generate revenue. Fans must travel and spend money. The problem with Baltimore is everyone would day-trip it, and the city would net a big loss.

And PSU would never play that game.

Yeah. Bowls care about $$ and exposure. Teams like going somewhere different to play a game that is mostly a step between exhibition and regular season. Unless you are in the CFP

[ECC29]

@Cider Jim I was absolutely saying Baltimore is a bad idea for a bowl. Ask the players if they’d like to play a bowl game in. Baltimore vs. Phoenix, I think they’d choose Phoenix.

But in a vacuum, if PSU and LU were to play a neutral game during the season, I could see Baltimore being an ideal location between the two schools. So I think I get what ECC is trying to say. I just wouldn’t put a bowl there.

Bowl games are an effort by host cities to generate revenue. Fans must travel and spend money. The problem with Baltimore is everyone would day-trip it, and the city would net a big loss.

And PSU would never play that game.

I completely understand your point and I accept it. However, I am just making a point for a couple of reasons. First, I am looking out for the students who are the 18, 19, 20, 21 years old who cannot afford to spend over a thousand dollars on airfare, hotel, food, ticket, etc. @J37, you maybe financially blessed and that’s good for you that you can spend money and support LU all the way to AZ. But not everyone has the finance to afford the trip. I was a D1 athlete and relied on my scholarship. The scholarship was not even enough and needed to get student loan to help pay the rest of my tuition. Second, this should be mostly for the college students experiences that they can go and support their team in person. When I was a student athlete, I developed relationships with other regular students besides my teammates and they come and watch most of our home games. I’ve had an upper classman tutor me in one of my classes and really helped me pass the class. He would come watch me play because deep inside he felt that he was part of me playing in that field because he helped me pass the class. As he should and I appreciated him. He used to play baseball in high school but he was not good enough to play D1 baseball. This is just an example. There are various reasons that students wants to come and support the players and team.
I am just looking out for those young men and women so they can have the best college experiences they can have.
However, it is a moot point because the game is in AZ. I was just trying to make a good point.
Nothing against anyone.

[ECC29]

*mute point

[AATL]

Blake Baumgartner gave the Fiesta Bowl & Liberty some love in ESPN's bowl season preview this morning:

Link: https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... watch-2023

Which New Year's Six bowl game are you most looking forward to? Oregon and Liberty have made the lives of opposing defenses miserable all season long and that should set the stage for a very entertaining Vrbo Fiesta Bowl. Both teams feature dynamite quarterbacks, Bo Nix (Oregon) and Kaidon Salter (Liberty), who lead the second-and-third-best offenses, respectively, in the country -- Oregon at 526.6 YPG and Liberty at 514.9 YPG. We know Jamey Chadwell and the Flames will be excited to be there with Salter (3,814 total yards and 43 total touchdowns) leading the way for the first Conference USA team to reach the New Year's Six. Can the Ducks put another three-point loss to Washington in the rear-view mirror and allow Nix (4,145 passing yards with 40 TDs) to conclude his collegiate career in proper fashion?

Which under-the-radar player should we have our eyes on? Liberty quarterback Kaidon Salter has been the point man for a program that leads the nation in rushing (302.9 YPG), is third in total yards (514.9 YPG) behind LSU and Oregon and has gotten off to the program's first-ever 13-0 start. Salter, who transferred from Tennessee, has accumulated 3,814 total yards (2,750 passing) and 43 total touchdowns (31 passing touchdowns) on the way to piloting an offense averaging 40.8 points a game (fifth in all of FBS). Seven times this season, Salter has accounted for at least four total touchdowns in a game as the Flames have tallied at least 30 points in all but one game this season (a 21-16 win over Sam Houston on Oct. 5).