- October 28th, 2021, 9:30 am
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Well, you should do your research first. Otherwise you inadvertently play into their drama.
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paradox wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 9:30 am Well, you should do your research first. Otherwise you inadvertently play into their drama.LIBERTY'S drama - the victims didn't cause this.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
thepostman wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 9:43 am This is also really old information. So it is a bit disheartening that TH has been making comments on something the past few months that he hasn't actually researched. I guess since Tucker isn't spoon feeding it to him, It becomes difficultI haven't research who the law firm/firms are that are representing all the Jane Does.
ATrain wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 6:50 pmparadox wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 9:30 am Well, you should do your research first. Otherwise you inadvertently play into their drama.LIBERTY'S drama - the victims didn't cause this.
EDIT: And honestly, its not drama. This is a very serious matter.
TH Spangler wrote:Keep the campus safe ... full stop.How much experience do you have with the requirements of Title IX?
At some point people have to take personal responsibility and not do stupid things off campus. Off campus assaults should be directed to the local police dept.
TH Spangler wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 7:57 pm Keep the campus safe ... full stop.Do you have a daughter?
At some point people have to take personal responsibility and not do stupid things off campus. Off campus assaults should be directed to the local police dept.
TH Spangler wrote:Keep the campus safe ... full stop.I missed that clause in the Liberty Way that allows sexual assault off-campus.
At some point people have to take personal responsibility and not do stupid things off campus. Off campus assaults should be directed to the local police dept.
lawdawg2002 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2021, 6:49 am Can someone explain to me why Christian organizations are so bad at handling sexual misconduct? I’ve had to report two Title IX cases at two different public universities, because the students came to me, and they were both handled. One resulted in the university protecting the student from another student and the other resulted in a faculty member being let go. Immediate action was taken in both instances. On the other hand, Christian organizations seem to cover up first and then hope for the best. Do I just pay more attention to Christian groups or is this a real issue?Not surprised that you get no response to this question. Being involved at several levels with other local schools, I've always considered my institution to be operated in a much more ethical manner than LU. Sad, but some here seem to be blind to the tomfoolery of the school's leadership.
paradox wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 7:48 pmNot may have...ACTUALLY been harmed. And those who have actually been harmed deserve to point the finger at those who harmed them, including the administration at LU.ATrain wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 6:50 pmparadox wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 9:30 am Well, you should do your research first. Otherwise you inadvertently play into their drama.LIBERTY'S drama - the victims didn't cause this.
EDIT: And honestly, its not drama. This is a very serious matter.
All the drama and finger-pointing only serves to deflect from the real thing. And It trivializes those who may have actually been harmed.
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PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
TH Spangler wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 7:57 pm Keep the campus safe ... full stop.Here's a newsflash:
At some point people have to take personal responsibility and not do stupid things off campus. Off campus assaults should be directed to the local police dept.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
thepostman wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 9:40 pmTH is right - off campus should be a Lynchburg Police as the lead and LU disciplinary action ( and available resources and support for victim immediately ) after Police determine if there is a prosecutable case. Personal feelings shouldn’t enter in to it. Just a few years ago LU was sued for knee jerk reaction against athletes before they were found “ not guilty”. As for the Liberty Way/Honor Code - if you are going to protect one party you would have to protect the other in an assault case - example - no one will be disciplined for breaking Liberty Way when reporting a sexual assault/rape case - i.e. - the police say not enough evidence so LU says girl can stay but guy is getting expelled because there was alcohol even though no proof of assault. And if your girl goes to any school or town, city and lives off campus and is over 18, she will find reporting a sex crime - the process anywhere isn’t overly “friendly” and asking if she made the “right choices” will be one of the gentler questions in the proceedings. That said, LU needs to figure it out and do it way better than secular schools.TH Spangler wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 7:57 pm Keep the campus safe ... full stop.Do you have a daughter?
At some point people have to take personal responsibility and not do stupid things off campus. Off campus assaults should be directed to the local police dept.
My daughter is only 9 1/2 and I sure hope that she never has to go through anything like this but if she does my first question to her would not be to ask her about her choices. Also if I found out someone asked her that first instead of attempting to get to the bottom of things, God help that person.
Your attitude is very similar to the current corrupt leadership at our school and many others as well. It's pretty shameful.
TH Spangler wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 7:57 pm Keep the campus safe ... full stop.And yes, I agree, the local authorities should handle this, because clearly the powers that be at LU don't know how to handle it in a way that helps the victims, only in a way to sweep it under the rug and protect their own image. HOWEVER, sweep enough under the rug and lumps begin to show...
At some point people have to take personal responsibility and not do stupid things off campus. Off campus assaults should be directed to the local police dept.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
rogers3 wrote: ↑October 28th, 2021, 10:23 pmI just read an article the other day that covered the same issues at multiple seculars institutions. It blows that narrative.lawdawg2002 wrote: ↑October 27th, 2021, 6:49 am Can someone explain to me why Christian organizations are so bad at handling sexual misconduct? I’ve had to report two Title IX cases at two different public universities, because the students came to me, and they were both handled. One resulted in the university protecting the student from another student and the other resulted in a faculty member being let go. Immediate action was taken in both instances. On the other hand, Christian organizations seem to cover up first and then hope for the best. Do I just pay more attention to Christian groups or is this a real issue?Not surprised that you get no response to this question. Being involved at several levels with other local schools, I've always considered my institution to be operated in a much more ethical manner than LU. Sad, but some here seem to be blind to the tomfoolery of the school's leadership.
paradox wrote: ↑October 29th, 2021, 12:49 am It's a good question. How do we know that such a protocol doesn't exist?If you actually take the time to read and listen to the experiences of victims, and people who know the victims and what they went through, then you'd know.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right