- December 24th, 2020, 11:26 pm
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Big East has no football. Make sense if we want to stay Independent in football and do the best we can for our only other revenue sport.
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Racenut wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 5:23 pm The travel money saved having non-revenue sports in a regional conference probably makes up for the TV cash earned by the AAC. The ACC is the only viable all-sports conference for Liberty IMHO and the chances of that happening are less than zero without devine intervention. The old Big East would have been the only other option in terms of geography and level of competition, but those days are long gone. Ian has done a great job with future football schedules and I only see that getting better. The AAC at this point is a bill of goods sold by the NCAA to the better teams in the G5 to throw them the bone of a "possible" NY6 game. The cost of travel for non-revenue sports eats up the paltry ESPN TV deal and the teams are such that they cannibalize each other in the quest for an undefeated season, only to find that they still are on the outside if that actually happens. MBB is the only sport which would rise in prestige with an AAC membership and Coach McKay has proven that he needs NO help in establishing Liberty's rep in that club. Ride the independent wave in football and the same things are possible in football without the prohibative cost of traveling to Texas and beyond for vollyball and softball.AAC teams make $7 million a year in tv money. Big East teams make a little over $4 million without football.
ballcoach15 wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 9:57 am We need one conference for all sports. Joining Big East (or A-10) just because of basketball, might be the dumbest thing I have ever read pertaining to Liberty Flames. Those 2 conferences would kill every other LU sport.Field hockey is already a Big East member, and it hasn't killed that sport. Your argument didn't have any merit before you posted it.
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alabama24 wrote: ↑December 26th, 2020, 9:43 pm I don’t think the Big East would be a good fit for other sports, but it wouldn’t kill them. However: Field Hockey. Really? There is a reason why our team is in the Big East and not in the ASUN.Ballcoach said that joining the Big Easy would kill every other sport with the exception of basketball and and football. I was just stating that it hasn't killed field hockey. We all know that the ASUN doesn't sponsor field hockey, but my point stands: joining the Big East won't kill our Olympic sports.
PAmedic wrote:you're absolutely right
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Also relevant is that the AAC has already engaged with Boise State and San Diego State about potentially joining. It’d be naïve to not brace for another round of realignment at both the Power Five and Group of Five level.
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Jonathan Carone wrote: ↑January 14th, 2021, 8:46 pm GCU ended up not adding it and the WAC raided the Southland.UTRGV is exploring starting a football program and the thought is it will join the WAC either in 2023 or 2024. Also, the WAC is looking at adding an eighth team so it can be immediately eligible for an FCS auto bid in the coming years.
jinxy wrote: ↑January 16th, 2021, 10:12 pm I think its a positive for the asun. This is obviously only a concept at the moment but should the asun be able to persuade a few teams away it could a fallback option should indy become unsustainable and the aac not come calling. If they could pull us uab louisiana ulm and fiu over then suddenly it looks a little more feasible. Jsu and ksu can be decent fbs programs in time i believe similar to mid tier sunbelt schools. Maybe even a Troy as well.All very reasonable and well thought out, pardon me if I fell asleep half way through...( just kidding). I could care less what conference our other teams play in - they all can recruit and make national title games regardless of conference. Football is a completely different animal and I want no part of any G5 designation, conference, (including AAC) or G5 Independent “equivalent”. Put the hammer down - bust out.
Im 3 to 4 years that type of conference could be better than the sunbelt and cusa easily. Louisiana and louisiana tecg are total speculation about even desiring to move but their has been some scuttle about uab for sure. If proximity truly matters in this next round i could see something like that coming together. Certainly a long shot but interesting concept and good to have options
Again i would hope we can seriously grab the attention of the aac in the next 24 mos but we ant bank on it.
Of course its a lot more complicated than that with other sports and schools that dont have football. Just a thought.
Ill flame wrote: ↑January 17th, 2021, 4:54 amYou are absolutely correct that the Southern would be a great fit for our non football sports. It's been discussed for decades. They have always had almost zero interest, for the usual reasons having nothing to do with sports. Now that we are FBS in football, I suspect that interest level has gone from zero to negative infinity.
I was looking at the basketball conference rankings from last year. Outside of the often debated conferences on here I always look at the SoCon as the perfect fit for our non football teams right now. They are strictly a one bid league but the overall quality would be so much better than what we are currently playing against. Plus there would be less travel and natural rivals.