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By NeoFlame
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#607501
Jerry learned absolutely nothing from any of this. His final quote saying he's free at last simply proves it and took me over the edge.

1. Completely ignorant
2. Free from what? Who was holding you hostage to be the President? It appears only your greed.
3. Show some remorse and if it is too soon for that then don't speak. You are embarrassing yourself and the school that your own father gave his blood, sweat, and tears for. If nothing else just be selfless enough to shut up so his legacy can be salvaged.
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By jinxy
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#607505
He has come completely unhinged. Just all the interviews and contradictory quotes and the overall tone. He has accepted no fault or blame. Hes in denial. Scary scary place and now hes lost his identity.

I actually worry for him personally. This is like a bad bad breakup with deep roots and its playing out on a national scene. He could make it better but instead he keeps pouring gas on the fire.
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By RubberMallet
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Jonathan Carone wrote:


Still playing the victim.
free at last lol. free to just be a perverted weirdo with 0 consequences now. bet he has a dragon tattoo all over his body within a year.
By ballah09
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What a joke. I guess one last shot at Liberty before he goes? He just can’t help it can he. Who was holding him hostage? Free from making millions? Ok I guess he’s free to be a cuck

It’s a shame he’s making a mockery of MLK and Liberty. Makes me sick.
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By Purple Haize
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ballcoach15 wrote: August 25th, 2020, 12:45 pm As for the jet, most, if not all trips can be arranged/labeled to be "Official Business".
I am 100% sure someone already said that. But good effort at least attempting to find some credibility
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By Purple Haize
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This last Tweet confirms my thoughts from earlier and he really didn’t ever want to be the President or Chancellor at LU. I’m going to go against the grain here (I’ll wait for you all to affix your shocked faces) but I’m happy for him. There was going to be no possible way he could heal or be happy while ever working at/for LU. He is now free to pursue what will actually make him happy. I’m totally ok with that and hope he finds it. Sure there will be bitterness short term. And I hope he does not decide to go scorched Earth. But I’m happy he feels he’s been released from the milestone around his neck and is now free to pursue his career passion
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By thepostman
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This thread is doing to contain long posts. There are years of thoughts and opinions and so much info to filter through. I don't know what to say.

So we still haven't gotten any official word from Liberty other then they were meeting this morning. I am sure that meeting has a lot of things to cover and I am certain it is not very fun for them. Jerry has made them look pretty foolish. They trusted him when not many people did and then he continues to put shots out through the media.

What a sad day for the school. I just want to hear from the board and see what the next steps forward will be so we can start to move forward form this debacle.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:19 pm This thread is doing to contain long posts. There are years of thoughts and opinions and so much info to filter through. I don't know what to say.

So we still haven't gotten any official word from Liberty other then they were meeting this morning. I am sure that meeting has a lot of things to cover and I am certain it is not very fun for them. Jerry has made them look pretty foolish. They trusted him when not many people did and then he continues to put shots out through the media.

What a sad day for the school. I just want to hear from the board and see what the next steps forward will be so we can start to move forward form this debacle.
I’ll just blame you if I get into an accident reading these long posts :D :D
By thepostman
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Purple Haize wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:19 pm This last Tweet confirms my thoughts from earlier and he really didn’t ever want to be the President or Chancellor at LU. I’m going to go against the grain here (I’ll wait for you all to affix your shocked faces) but I’m happy for him. There was going to be no possible way he could heal or be happy while ever working at/for LU. He is now free to pursue what will actually make him happy. I’m totally ok with that and hope he finds it. Sure there will be bitterness short term. And I hope he does not decide to go scorched Earth. But I’m happy he feels he’s been released from the milestone around his neck and is now free to pursue his career passion
Sorry for quoting you, hopefully you and ballcoach can keep up :)

But I get what you're saying here but he was free to leave anytime he wanted. He chose to lie to the board, he chose to leave parts of the story out. I don't believe all the words out of the poolboy's mouth are gospel by any means but Jerry completely denied this whole thing was true. He denied it to the board a few years back and he denied it publically many, many times. If he felt like being the leader of the University was holding him down he should've been a man about it and moved on.

And this, to me, is not just about the poolboy. It is about how he treated some students, some staff, some faculty, some parents, and some alumni. It is how he used his position of power to get what he wanted and made it clear the University wasn't a priority. And that just scratches the surface.

So yes, it is great he can finally do what he wants to do but he doesn't need to quote MLK on his way out and make it sound like none of this is his fault. He may have had some help going down this path, but he must own his actions. He hasn't done that and it doesn't appear he wil.

SO yeah, great he is doing what he wants but if he continues to go down this path it is only a matter of time before he hits the media circuit to drag our name through the mud. I hope I am wrong. I hope that isn't what he is planning but it sure looks like it.
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By olldflame
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Purple Haize wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:19 pm This last Tweet confirms my thoughts from earlier and he really didn’t ever want to be the President or Chancellor at LU. I’m going to go against the grain here (I’ll wait for you all to affix your shocked faces) but I’m happy for him. There was going to be no possible way he could heal or be happy while ever working at/for LU. He is now free to pursue what will actually make him happy. I’m totally ok with that and hope he finds it. Sure there will be bitterness short term. And I hope he does not decide to go scorched Earth. But I’m happy he feels he’s been released from the milestone around his neck and is now free to pursue his career passion
Hadn't thought of it that way, but you could be right. Still, using the MLK line (which was actually a quote from a negro spiritual) is classless at best.
By rtb72
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El Scorcho wrote: August 25th, 2020, 10:43 am Those who have been around here for a while will verify that for a period of time I had an up-close view of Junior.

With that said, I want to be extremely clear: This is always who Jr was. Becki probably even more so.

Yes, the public personality shift that you've all noted was real, but long before that it was clear to a lot of people working at LU that ethics were no longer in the way of doing business. Things became toxic (and frankly gross) from the moment Jerry Sr. was gone.

The board needs to fund a full audit of the university. Ignoring Jr's scandalous behavior, university resources have been used and abused for personal gain for years. Granda flew on the university jet how many times? I don't think looking for potentially criminal activity is out of the question either.
And there needs to be some changes on the BOT. They may not have created the monster...but they (some I'm sure) sure didn't try to cage him either. There is a fiduciary duty of EVERY member on the BOT. So what if they lose their position or have to suffer for speaking out against unethical (or worse) behavior. If there was knowledge and potential proof of improprieties which were allowed to go without question or pushback....well, I think the same holds true with LU as it does with our federal government. "Drain the swamp".
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By Purple Haize
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@thepostman the difference is I’m multitasking while fraudcoach is just trying to sound out words
Stepping away from your Legacy position isn’t as easy as you make it. It can create self destructive behavior that we’ve seen here. Yes, all you said was true and an avenue. But not a realistic one. He has probably been looking for a way out subconsciously for years.
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By Purple Haize
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olldflame wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:26 pm
Purple Haize wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:19 pm This last Tweet confirms my thoughts from earlier and he really didn’t ever want to be the President or Chancellor at LU. I’m going to go against the grain here (I’ll wait for you all to affix your shocked faces) but I’m happy for him. There was going to be no possible way he could heal or be happy while ever working at/for LU. He is now free to pursue what will actually make him happy. I’m totally ok with that and hope he finds it. Sure there will be bitterness short term. And I hope he does not decide to go scorched Earth. But I’m happy he feels he’s been released from the milestone around his neck and is now free to pursue his career passion
Hadn't thought of it that way, but you could be right. Still, using the MLK line (which was actually a quote from a negro spiritual) is classless at best.
Yeah, I got no insight into that. Not a good look at all
By olldflame
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I agree on the culpability of at least some board members. Maybe we should take the Putin approach. Once the necessary culling of employees is done, everyone on the board submits their resignation, and those who wish to return could apply and be vetted by an independent committee.
By thepostman
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Purple Haize wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:33 pm @thepostman the difference is I’m multitasking while fraudcoach is just trying to sound out words
Stepping away from your Legacy position isn’t as easy as you make it. It can create self destructive behavior that we’ve seen here. Yes, all you said was true and an avenue. But not a realistic one. He has probably been looking for a way out subconsciously for years.
I certainly get the sentiment of your original post but it is really hard for me to be happy for him right now. If he would go away without parting shots publically it would be much easier to just be happy he is able to peruse what he wants but it is still too fresh right now.

So yes, I am glad he can finally pursue his dreams, but I can't say I am happy with how he is doing about it.

Maybe I shouldn't be as angry about all of this as I am, but I'm pretty invested in the school at this point.
By thepostman
#607538
I have higher standards for people in leadership position than for average Joes. So yes, I get where he is coming from but he needs to cool it and be professional.
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By CinciFlame
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I know the board has an obligation to hold Jr accountable and I'm sure they heard things over the years that went unchecked. I'm concerned about those that were around Jr daily and turned a blind eye. I live in Cincinnati and have been removed from the daily happenings for years, but there has to be some consequences for those that allowed this to fester. I'm not looking for witch hunt, but surely the inner circle knew this stuff was happening.
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Purple Haize wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:44 pm Nope. Both sides are gonna be emotional. I’m looking long term. In the short term, like any break up it’s gonna be raw and ugly
Everything about this follows the pathological pattern of an abusive boyfriend (Jerry Jr.) when the partner finally has had enough and wants to break up. He has sunk into irrationality and is burning every bridge he can find. His parting shots at LU really show us all his true character that he had all along. What a fall.
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olldflame wrote: August 25th, 2020, 1:38 pm I agree on the culpability of at least some board members. Maybe we should take the Putin approach. Once the necessary culling of employees is done, everyone on the board submits their resignation, and those who wish to return could apply and be vetted by an independent committee.
That's called the David Nasser Approach as well.
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