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HenryGale wrote:Yea...obviously stay in your car...Unlikely. The cameraman in this video is near entrance to turn 1. The sound is coming from cars passing immediately in front of the cameraman and decelerating before accelerating through turn 1, not the cars turning past the middle of turn 1 and exiting turn 2. If you look at the layout of the track, the accident happened in the darkest corner of Canandaigua Motorsports Park. Other than the back straightaway, that is the only part of the track that has trees behind it. Considering that the driver was wearing a black fire suit, its possible that Stewart didn't seen him in the shadows until it was too late to avoid him. That's just speculation on my part since I haven't been to that track.
BUT...I think Stewart is in some trouble here. Listen to his car...he is slowed under caution, driving by "slowly"....he sees the guy coming at him and you can hear his rev his engine....trying to either scare him, to say "don't mess with me." And when he lays on the gas, tires spin and car slides up into him. Involuntary manslaughter?
flamehunter wrote:He's was coming up to the car that he wrecked. You don't think he was looking in that direction and probably at least half expecting the kid to be out there? It's what he would have done, especially in his younger days, had the roles been reversed. Also, you don't rev the motor enough to cause your car to slide just to maintain caution speed, especially not with as much experience as Tony has. My gut feeling is he knew the kid was there and was trying to intimidate him a little. He had no intent to physically hurt him.
flamesfilmguy wrote:Stewart did rev his engine as multiple news outlets and people who were there has suggested. will that get him involuntary? probably not since it was still obviously unintentional but he should have known on a dirt track that his car would fishtail if he did rev his engine. Stewarts ego has always been the size of texas. this time it killed someone. its a shame.I would trust the tape over any spectator from the track. By that point, almost everyone in the stands was drunk.
thepostman wrote:flamehunter wrote:He's was coming up to the car that he wrecked. You don't think he was looking in that direction and probably at least half expecting the kid to be out there? It's what he would have done, especially in his younger days, had the roles been reversed. Also, you don't rev the motor enough to cause your car to slide just to maintain caution speed, especially not with as much experience as Tony has. My gut feeling is he knew the kid was there and was trying to intimidate him a little. He had no intent to physically hurt him.
Sly Fox wrote:Mallet lives in the heart of dirt track sprint car country and gets that it is a completely different beast. My great uncle from Central Illinois holds the world record for most ever wins by a race car with one of his rides called the "Black Deuce". So I have been around the sprint car world a bit more than most on here. And frankly it looked to me like Tony was a bit reckless but nowhere near as reckless as the kid. Tragedy on all sides.Don't sell Baire Field, Avilla and Angola speedways short there paly cakes.
Incidentally driving a spring car on a dirt track is a kick in the pants. It is like driving on a sheet of ice when you first get behind the wheel. I can understand why Tony loves the sport so much.
Sly Fox wrote:Mallet lives in the heart of dirt track sprint car country and gets that it is a completely different beast. My great uncle from Central Illinois holds the world record for most ever wins by a race car with one of his rides called the "Black Deuce". So I have been around the sprint car world a bit more than most on here. And frankly it looked to me like Tony was a bit reckless but nowhere near as reckless as the kid. Tragedy on all sides.a guy at church has raced locally for 30 years both sprints and modifieds. since he was like 15. he said he felt that tony did nothing out of the ordinary when trying to get around an obstacle on a dirt track. and he hates tony stewart.
Incidentally driving a spring car on a dirt track is a kick in the pants. It is like driving on a sheet of ice when you first get behind the wheel. I can understand why Tony loves the sport so much.
RubberMallet wrote:the guy in front of tony would of hit him had the guy done what he did when he was near tony's car. there was nothing for tony to do.
to be honest, sprint cars are a completely different animal. its amazing how many sprint car dirt track racing experts there are on the internet the last 4 days.
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