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By LUconn
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Impeach him! Bring on President Biden! errr... maybe this whole Benghazi thing is just a crazy misunderstanding. I'm sure the ambassador is hiding in a White House closet waiting to yell gotcha!
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By Purple Haize
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bballfan84 wrote:If the liberal media chooses to follow through on this I think Obama could be in some serious trouble.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... z2CCRIbBuC
This has been going on since September. The Republicans need something and a few Dem Senators operatives or House members who have been spurned by Obama could make this interesting

I would LOVE a Biden Presidency
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By bballfan84
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Purple Haize wrote:
bballfan84 wrote:If the liberal media chooses to follow through on this I think Obama could be in some serious trouble.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... z2CCRIbBuC
This has been going on since September. The Republicans need something and a few Dem Senators operatives or House members who have been spurned by Obama could make this interesting

I would LOVE a Biden Presidency
it would definitely provide some serious entertainment..in some way I think we would be better off
By ALUmnus
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Some of the theories around this whole thing would make an amazing book, especially the whole staged-kidnapping angle.
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By BJWilliams
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You know Obama is their boy so no way in the fiery pits that they actually give this some serious coverage (except Fox News)
By Humble_Opinion
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Congress is going to have to push this. You have to doubt that any Democrat is going to stick their neck out on this one unless something crazy happens, like say Petraeus unleashing the hounds of truth on the matter. Bill Kristol said he has a contact on the Hill that had a conversation with the General about this matter and when he asked the General what happened, the reply was "Do you want the official line, or do you want the real truth."
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By Purple Haize
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At this point he has nothing to lose telling the 'real' story. He's lost his job, rank, career and probably wife. Come clean, write a book, hit the speaking trail and make millions while helping your country. It's win win

And it seemed Obama was a bit too defensive in his answers regarding Susan Rice. Who is an absolute idiot. Look up some stories on her. She may have an ego even greater then Obamas!
By flamehunter
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Problem is that Dems in congress won't push it unless the public is demanding it. The public won't demand it unless the media presents it the way it really is. Right now they are way more interested in the "real housewives" story than the abandonment and subsequent death of 4 Americans. Obama has the mainstream media keeping the real harmful stuff away from him. He will never feel any real heat from this.
As for Petraeus, his credibility is shot. He already said it was all due to the video. If he changes now and tells the truth, they will simpy ask "which time were you lying".
By jmdickens
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BJWilliams wrote:You know Obama is their boy so no way in the fiery pits that they actually give this some serious coverage (except Fox News)
Google "Benghazi cover up", the first page of results listed several places and Fox News wasn't one of them. You shouldn't watch Fox News either, they are just as bad as any liberal news site. All an agenda BJ. Geeze, you should know better. You will tout the propaganda line from LU on any issue, yet you think Fox News will be the only network to give this serious coverage.
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By jbock13
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Fox News is pretty fair. It's just a few of the originals I despise, Bill Krystal and John Bolton among them (and need I even mention Rove again).
By ALUmnus
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At least the Brits still have a free press. This kind of thing is right up their alley, they'll investigate if ours decides to ignore, the potential windfall is too great to let go.
By From the class of 09
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ALUmnus wrote:At least the Brits still have a free press. This kind of thing is right up their alley, they'll investigate if ours decides to ignore, the potential windfall is too great to let go.
Yeah the Brits are all about investigative reporting as long as it doesn't invovle one of their host pedophilia...
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By bballfan84
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From the class of 09 wrote:
ALUmnus wrote:At least the Brits still have a free press. This kind of thing is right up their alley, they'll investigate if ours decides to ignore, the potential windfall is too great to let go.
Yeah the Brits are all about investigative reporting as long as it doesn't invovle one of their host pedophilia...
ZINGER!!!! in your face England!!!
By Humble_Opinion
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jbock13 wrote:Fox News is pretty fair. It's just a few of the originals I despise, Bill Krystal and John Bolton among them (and need I even mention Rove again).
Lol what do you hate about Bolton?
By Humble_Opinion
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Have you guys seen the latest on this story? Drudge Report is lighting up with stories about Petraeus' testimony regarding Benghazi and how the administration edited the CIA's talking points to play down the element of terror in the hours after the attacks. Apparently, CIA's early assessments were that it was a terror attack and the White House did not want that getting out... How can they cover this up?
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By bballfan84
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uh oh..looks like Obama has some explaining to do..we need to the people to get riled up over this!!!!!!!!!!!!! I sure as heck am
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By SumItUp
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I'm outraged. Knowing that they were watching as Americans died and did nothing about it is disturbing.
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By Sly Fox
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It is interesting that most every one of the mainstream media outlets (Huff Post obviously wouldn't fit this description) are giving this some attention this afternoon. Although many are turning this into a Republicans vs. Rice witch hunt.
By Humble_Opinion
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Sly Fox wrote:It is interesting that most every one of the mainstream media outlets (Huff Post obviously wouldn't fit this description) are giving this some attention this afternoon. Although many are turning this into a Republicans vs. Rice witch hunt.
You're right Sly... even when the media does decide to cover the story, they conveniently hit the points that fit their overall narrative, and continue to pay little attention to the more important issues. It is telling to me that the father of one of the slain ex-Navy Seals (probably CIA) agents has held firm in his criticisms of the Obama Administration. The fact that the guy asked three separate times to go in and try and help those on the ground and was denied is telling. The fact that he had to disobey orders to finally go in is equally as telling. However, nothing can be said for the flat out refusal to send in the Rapid Response Forces that could have saved the day. Yeah - we didn't have a total picture of what was going on that day probably, but these forces are prepared for that. They had the assets in place to repel the invading forces, and potentially save lives, but they chose not to. This one smells to high heaven. At least in Watergate - no one died (as far as we know...).
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By PAmedic
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bballfan84 wrote:uh oh..looks like Obama has some explaining to do..we need to the people to get riled up over this!!!!!!!!!!!!! I sure as heck am
yeah.... not happening.

people just want to make sure the government keeps handing out "free" healthcare, "free" cell phones, drivers' licenses for illegal aliens (I'm sorry: "undocumented workers") and food stamps or now EBT cards (good for smokes and booze as well as trips to the casinos or strip clubs)

no way they go after the man who provides all that to them
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By El Scorcho
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We were giving away all of those things under George W Bush, too. All of them.

Where was the Republican outrage then?
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