[bradyfan]

but even the best teams in the league have a difficult time putting together 7 wins in a row.

I think you just like to argue

Yeah, because it's rare that you get 7 easy teams in a row. And no, I don't care about arguing. I just like to point out stupidity.

they are winning the kind of games they weren't earlier in the season.

They lost to Golden State, Lakers, Toronto, CHARLOTTE, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Houston, and Detroit.

The teams they have won have been the same caliber teams. They have been a better team with Lin running the point. Plain and simple.

Sometimes its ok to admit when someone is good. Just because the media over hypes someone doesn't mean they aren't actually good.

They also beat many of the same teams. NY is too good to lose to those caliber teams like that in a stretch. They have been better with Lin but Lin has not saved their season. Two completely different matters. I know that Lin has been good, I've admitted that. I'm arguing whether or not Lin is the sole reason for success, whether or not he's the actual reason the Knicks have won seven in a row and whether or not his future will have similar success to this past week. My answer has continuously been I don't know, I'm only questioning the people who seem to be so stuck on Lin is the only reason for the Knicks success and that D'Antoni's system has not helped Lin.

[NotAJerry]

I feel like cjsweat and lynchburgwildcats are having a contest to see who can provide the absolute worst NBA/Knicks analysis possible.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Yeah I heard from a guy that all Lin can do is drive too. So if I was a defender I'd sag a little and let Lin try and hit a fluke shot from outside of 5 feet.

Your friend hasn't done his research then. He struggled early but has picked it up considerably. He is shooting 46% from 3-9 feet (18-39), 54% from 10-15 feet (only taken 11 attempts though), 57% from 16 to inside the 3 arc (12-21). He is only 5-20 from three, but 3-6 in the fourth. With his TO and decision making issues, got to force him to put the ball on the floor. Just letting him just dribble into a rhythm three is completely asinine, high school players make those shots.

Lol I was talking about you. On page one you say Lin made his living inside of 5' and you thought LA might be a fluke so you'd make him prove that he can shoot. I don't think you could be more golden right now. You really need to stop.

So a dude isn't allowed to be proven wrong now? When I posted that, he had awful percentages from outside of five feet. He has since started making them. I'm now supposed to be all knowing of the future? I'm not God...

[lynchburgwildcats]

The only stat that matters: 7-0.

Yeah, pretty sure if Duke went 7-0 against Carleton, Wayne State, Florida A&M, Texas A&M Kingsville, Ferrum, NJIT and College of the Ozarks...no one would care if they were 7-0. That isn't the only thing that matters.

You do realize that even the worst NBA team has a bunch of guys that would be the best player to ever at that school without a shadow of a doubt, right? There are college all-americans that can't even manage to be more than NBA role players if even that much.

Winning 7 games in the NBA is astronomically more difficult than in college. Kentucky is 25-1 right now, that kind of winning percentage in the NBA would have a team winning 78.8 (so 79) games in an NBA season. No team has ever come anywhere close to that and never will.

[lynchburgwildcats]

It's also an extremely small sample size, based primarily on just six or seven games.

Wait, I thought it was forty four? You''re getting confusing.

The statistics I presented were from this year (not including the Feb. 15 game if I posted on or after the 15th). Nearly all of his statistics this year has come during the Linsanity stretch. He had only attempted 20 shot this year prior to the last 7 games. He had 19 alone in the first game of Linsanity. That's a small sample size. If he maintains his current percentanges of a couple weeks or more, then he will have done one heck of a job proving the initial reports wrong that he is poor shooter from outside five feet. If he does it all season, then he will produce one of the greatest shooting seasons ever from inside the three point arc. Hence, why I don't believe that his percentages are sustainable.

[NotAJerry]

28 points, 14 assists, 4 rebounds, 5 steals against a Dallas team that had won 6 in a row in a Knicks win. That's probably their best win in this run and this thing is really starting to look like it's going to have some legitimate staying power.

This may end up being the best sports story of 2012 and it's only February.

[Purple Haize]

28 points, 14 assists, 4 rebounds, 5 steals against a Dallas team that had won 6 in a row in a Knicks win. That's probably their best win in this run and this thing is really starting to look like it's going to have some legitimate staying power.

This may end up being the best sports story of 2012 and it's only February.

Yeah but 6 in a row in the NBA isn't a big deal. After all the Knicks stink and they won 7 in a row.

[lynchburgwildcats]

28 points, 14 assists, 4 rebounds, 5 steals against a Dallas team that had won 6 in a row in a Knicks win. That's probably their best win in this run and this thing is really starting to look like it's going to have some legitimate staying power.

This may end up being the best sports story of 2012 and it's only February.

Yeah but 6 in a row in the NBA isn't a big deal. After all the Knicks stink and they won 7 in a row.

FWIW, Dallas' SOS in their win streak is world's better than it was in the NYK win streak.

Dallas' six wins came against teams that currently are a combined 105-80, five of the teams of which come in the significantly better western conference. NYC's seven-game win streak came against teams that are 83-132, four of which have 20 losses and three are in the western conference.

If the playoffs were to start today, only one team in that Knicks win streak would be in the playoffs, four of the teams in that Mavericks win streak would be in the playoffs with a fifth being only half a game out of the playoffs.

I would say six in a row against a bunch of playoff teams or playoff contenders is a big deal. Winning seven in a row against a lineup that only has one playoff team isn't as much of a feat for a good team, which is clearly what the Knicks are - those are the kind of games good teams are supposed to win.

[NotAJerry]

You really didn't notice the sarcasm in the response...even with the smiley rolling its eyes?

[lynchburgwildcats]

You really didn't notice the sarcasm in the response...even with the smiley rolling its eyes?

The sarcasm had nothing to do with my response. Therefore, the sarcasm is irrelevant to the discussion.

[Purple Haize]

You really didn't notice the sarcasm in the response...even with the smiley rolling its eyes?

[NotAJerry]

You really didn't notice the sarcasm in the response...even with the smiley rolling its eyes?

The sarcasm had nothing to do with my response. Therefore, the sarcasm is irrelevant to the discussion.

You're response was to a point that no one made with the slightest bit of seriousness, so it was irrelevant to the discussion.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Durant has 50 and Westbrook 40 in the same game. Will ESPN give them some credit and not obsess over Lin all day long?

[pbow]

Durant has 50 and Westbrook 40 in the same game. Will ESPN give them some credit and not obsess over Lin all day long?

Do you honestly not get the whole Lin story? The dude walked on in college, went undrafted, has been sleeping on his brother's couch, and was almost out of the NBA 2 weeks ago! Oh and by the way...he's an asian-american NBA player, which is pretty much as rare as a jamaican bobsled team. Also the fact that he's performing lights out in the high pressure of NYC and in MSG (basketball's mecca) is just plain craziness.

You're comparing the feats of an undrafted player to the feats of two guys who were drafted second and fourth, respectively. Durant and Westbrook killed it tonight against the Nuggets, but that's sports news, not an amazing sports story. Lin is an amazing story and he most likely will continue to be for quite awhile.

[NotAJerry]

[jbock13]

Durant has 50 and Westbrook 40 in the same game. Will ESPN give them some credit and not obsess over Lin all day long?

[thepostman]

no they will talk about Lin more because its a better story..

I get espn overkills things but it does make sense why the Lin story has been so huge. Its the ultimate underdog story. Its a way better story then the Tebow story ever was. This kid has never been given any credit and all of a sudden he gets his shot and the Knicks just look like a better team. They beat the defending champions in exciting fashion.

Durant and Westbrook are talented players and will get covered, but they aren't the ultimate underdogs and they aren't playing in New York City, haha

[Purple Haize]

Bottom Line
America loves an underdog. Lin is the ULTIMATE underdog, the likes of which we haven't seen since Kurt Warner (Tebow was a 1st rd pick). Durant and Westbrook are not under dogs.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Serious question:
How much hype would Lin be getting if he was African-American? American White? European White?

[Purple Haize]

If he was a walk on at an Ivy League school and an undrafted free agent about to get cut only to rip off a string of impressive games on the biggest basketball stage in the world? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be ignored.

[RubberMallet]

If he was a walk on at an Ivy League school and an undrafted free agent about to get cut only to rip off a string of impressive games on the biggest basketball stage in the world? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be ignored.

i don't think they get how very unlikely it is to find a potential superstar that is undrafted. who is the best undrafted player you can think of...like EVER....none of them have put up this stretch of games, especially in the ny market.

brad miller? john starks? ben wallace? when jon starks was a 6th man phenom in 91 in NY he got a TON of press. as much press as you could get back then. the knicks were inconsistant with 1 star and john starks gave them another guy they could rely on to allow them to consistantly win 50 games a year which i think they did pretty much for 4 maybe 5 years straight.

[thepostman]

If he was a walk on at an Ivy League school and an undrafted free agent about to get cut only to rip off a string of impressive games on the biggest basketball stage in the world? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be ignored.

yeah, exactly. Of course being the first asian american to do well in the nba adds to the story but any other race with the same scenario would be getting the same exact kind of attention

[lynchburgwildcats]

If he was a walk on at an Ivy League school and an undrafted free agent about to get cut only to rip off a string of impressive games on the biggest basketball stage in the world? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be ignored.

yeah, exactly. Of course being the first asian american to do well in the nba adds to the story but any other race with the same scenario would be getting the same exact kind of attention

The first? Ever heard of Yao Ming?

[From the class of 09]

If he was a walk on at an Ivy League school and an undrafted free agent about to get cut only to rip off a string of impressive games on the biggest basketball stage in the world? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it would be ignored.

yeah, exactly. Of course being the first asian american to do well in the nba adds to the story but any other race with the same scenario would be getting the same exact kind of attention

The first? Ever heard of Yao Ming?

Asian American

[Purple Haize]

Yao was a commy! Lin is Taiwanese. Lin grew up here in America. Yao was already a star before he got here.