[dompennix]

Rafer Alston has been important too

[adam42381]

LeBron is making some bad passes here late in the game. Game looks like it might be over.

[adam42381]

Where did Dwight Howard's free throw shooting ability come from?

[adam42381]

Great game. The Magic are much better than I thought coming in to this series.

[ToTheLeft]

Yeah, beating the Cavs like 11 of the last 15 times we've played them shouldn't have been any indication... haha.

The Magic have a very balanced team. When Pietrus is at the 2 with Hedo, Rashard, and Dwight or Gortat, you have 4 matchup problems. Pietrus is too good of a shooter to leave alone, but you have to leave him alone to help on the other guys. Hedo and Rashard are matchup NIGHTMARES, and Dwight speaks for himself, while Gortat is like Dwight Jr, just with more polished (and Polish) offense.

I really like how this team comes together, it just flows sometimes and seems unstoppable. I just wish they could stay with that flow, which Rafer is a big part of.

[LUconn]

Who has bigger shoulders?


Dwight Howard:



Karl Malone:


Ryu/Ken:

[flamesbball84]

I'd go with Karl Malone for biggest shoulders.

Cavs just don't match up well enough against the Magic to win this series or even force it to 7 games like the Celtics did - I think it's fairly easy to say the "real" eastern conference finals was the Magic and Celtics, unless the Cavs go one a miracle run and win three straight.

[scuzdriver]

Where did Dwight Howard's free throw shooting ability come from?

He was taught by Charles Richardson, former LU bballer. Look him up on you tube.

[Schfourteenteen]

Where did Dwight Howard's free throw shooting ability come from?

He was taught by Charles Richardson, former LU bballer. Look him up on you tube.

He also heard a sweet song at halftime and kept that in his head

[Hold My Own]

Way to many T's are being called...WAY to many

[RubberMallet]

good on orlando....they should already have this thing won and over....hopefully everyone can see that the refs are trying to give this to cleveland. lebron basically gets fouled on every play...its ridiculous.

[TDDance234]

Way to many T's are being called...WAY to many

It's going to cost Orlando in the finals. Howard's one away from being suspended a game.

[ToTheLeft]

Way to many T's are being called...WAY to many

It's going to cost Orlando in the finals. Howard's one away from being suspended a game.

Hopefully they rescind the garbage T from last night and he has a 2 "T" cushion.

[flamesbball84]

Way to many T's are being called...WAY to many

It's going to cost Orlando in the finals. Howard's one away from being suspended a game.

Hopefully they rescind the garbage T from last night and he has a 2 "T" cushion.

I'd imagine it gets rescinded - that T was definitely not deserving unless he threw in a derogatory word or phrase in what the refs considered taunting.

[dompennix]

the Magic will not win the finals because of the curse of the "Great Shaqbino"

[ToTheLeft]

The T has been rescinded.

Just a shame the Cavs got the free throws that resulted from it... would've been a different game.

[Th3rd]

if this orlando team wins the finals you can put them up there with the spurs team when all they had was duncan. it is still a mystery to me how that spurs team won it all. i think that howard could deff do what timmy did and put this team on his back and carry them through to a championship though

[ToTheLeft]

if this orlando team wins the finals you can put them up there with the spurs team when all they had was duncan. it is still a mystery to me how that spurs team won it all. i think that howard could deff do what timmy did and put this team on his back and carry them through to a championship though

You know a lot less about the NBA if you really think the Magic are just Howard carrying a team. The Magic have the most talented roster in the playoffs right now, if you take Jameer Nelson into consideration. Even with him out of the lineup, we're still one of the most talented, right up there with the Nuggets.

The Spurs had more than just Duncan, too. But you're of the Lakers mindset, which is "Find the star and say he carries the team". Not every team plays like that. The Nuggets and Magic play as a team, with multiple players who can make an impact. Howard doesn't have to carry this team, we knocked out the 76'ers with him sitting out due to suspension. Rashard, Hedo, Howard, Rafer, Pietrus, Gortat and Lee can all contribute key points, key baskets, key minutes, and big time defense. This isn't a one-man show, this is a team, sorta like the Pistons teams that won not so long ago.

[Th3rd]

ok let me clarify my previous post, what i mean by the spurs being carried by duncan and howard carrying the magic. i mean (besides jameer nelson who is a fantastic player and a great pg, i have liked him since his college days.) that if you take the roleplayers form both teams none of them are stars in their own right, howard and duncan may have made them play better through their exceptional play, but take any of those guys and put them on any other team and they are not superstars. most every championship team has had a superstar and a player who would be a superstar on any other team. there are exceptions like the Spurs of 02-03

[flamesbball84]

if this orlando team wins the finals you can put them up there with the spurs team when all they had was duncan. it is still a mystery to me how that spurs team won it all. i think that howard could deff do what timmy did and put this team on his back and carry them through to a championship though

and which year was that? i'm not aware of any year where it was just all tim duncan...

the magic are a lot more than just dwight howard. who were the magic going to in the fourth quarter last night to get scoring? it sure wasn't dwight howard! Rashard Lewis was an all-star this year after being picked as a reserve by the coaches, I have to say that makes him a pretty good player. Hedo Trukoglu is a pretty darn good player as well, and clutch at that. Courtney Lee was one of the top rookies in this years class, a very good and very deep one at that, and is taking his game to an even bigger level in the playoffs.

[Th3rd]

if this orlando team wins the finals you can put them up there with the spurs team when all they had was duncan. it is still a mystery to me how that spurs team won it all. i think that howard could deff do what timmy did and put this team on his back and carry them through to a championship though

and which year was that? i'm not aware of any year where it was just all tim duncan...

the magic are a lot more than just dwight howard. who were the magic going to in the fourth quarter last night to get scoring? it sure wasn't dwight howard! Rashard Lewis was an all-star this year after being picked as a reserve by the coaches, I have to say that makes him a pretty good player. Hedo Trukoglu is a pretty darn good player as well, and clutch at that. Courtney Lee was one of the top rookies in this years class, a very good and very deep one at that, and is taking his game to an even bigger level in the playoffs.

03-04 Spurs, the 2nd best player on that team would have been Robinson who was not at his peak and would not be a superstar on any other team. parker and ginobili were young and no where near the talent they are at now.

what i am saying is that the magic dont have another superstar on the team without nelson. turkoglu is far from his prime, though he is a great shooter. lee is a great player but not a superstar, though he will most likely get there in the next couple years. lewis is an all star, not the ideal number 2 guy but ok i will concede that he is a good player and could be considered as a superstar on another team like a new jersey or a toronto or mid level team

[ToTheLeft]

if this orlando team wins the finals you can put them up there with the spurs team when all they had was duncan. it is still a mystery to me how that spurs team won it all. i think that howard could deff do what timmy did and put this team on his back and carry them through to a championship though

and which year was that? i'm not aware of any year where it was just all tim duncan...

the magic are a lot more than just dwight howard. who were the magic going to in the fourth quarter last night to get scoring? it sure wasn't dwight howard! Rashard Lewis was an all-star this year after being picked as a reserve by the coaches, I have to say that makes him a pretty good player. Hedo Trukoglu is a pretty darn good player as well, and clutch at that. Courtney Lee was one of the top rookies in this years class, a very good and very deep one at that, and is taking his game to an even bigger level in the playoffs.

03-04 Spurs, the 2nd best player on that team would have been Robinson who was not at his peak and would not be a superstar on any other team. parker and ginobili were young and no where near the talent they are at now.

what i am saying is that the magic dont have another superstar on the team without nelson. turkoglu is far from his prime, though he is a great shooter. lee is a great player but not a superstar, though he will most likely get there in the next couple years. lewis is an all star, not the ideal number 2 guy but ok i will concede that he is a good player and could be considered as a superstar on another team like a new jersey or a toronto or mid level team

Tony Parker? Manu Ganobli? Hedo Turkoglu? Bruce Bowen? Robert Horry?

That was a DEEP DEEP team with TONS of talent.

And since when did teams need more than one "Superstar". They can't even afford it. Although I would argue that Jameer, Rashard, and Dwight are all stars, with D12 being a superstar. The Magic are deep, and no one is carrying this team. That was proven by the fact that we've made it to the brink of knocking out the Cavs after losing our Starting Point guard during the year...

[Th3rd]

and which year was that? i'm not aware of any year where it was just all tim duncan...

the magic are a lot more than just dwight howard. who were the magic going to in the fourth quarter last night to get scoring? it sure wasn't dwight howard! Rashard Lewis was an all-star this year after being picked as a reserve by the coaches, I have to say that makes him a pretty good player. Hedo Trukoglu is a pretty darn good player as well, and clutch at that. Courtney Lee was one of the top rookies in this years class, a very good and very deep one at that, and is taking his game to an even bigger level in the playoffs.

03-04 Spurs, the 2nd best player on that team would have been Robinson who was not at his peak and would not be a superstar on any other team. parker and ginobili were young and no where near the talent they are at now.

what i am saying is that the magic dont have another superstar on the team without nelson. turkoglu is far from his prime, though he is a great shooter. lee is a great player but not a superstar, though he will most likely get there in the next couple years. lewis is an all star, not the ideal number 2 guy but ok i will concede that he is a good player and could be considered as a superstar on another team like a new jersey or a toronto or mid level team

Tony Parker? Manu Ganobli? Hedo Turkoglu? Bruce Bowen? Robert Horry?

That was a DEEP DEEP team with TONS of talent.

And since when did teams need more than one "Superstar". They can't even afford it. Although I would argue that Jameer, Rashard, and Dwight are all stars, with D12 being a superstar. The Magic are deep, and no one is carrying this team. That was proven by the fact that we've made it to the brink of knocking out the Cavs after losing our Starting Point guard during the year...

tony parker and manu were both young and inexperianced. bruce bowen had defense which he has always had, horry can knockdown shots the same as turkoglu, but neither are superstars in their own right.

every team that has won a championship besides the afformentioned spurs have had a superstar and a star.

bird mchale
jordan pippen
shaq kobe
shaq wade

its the very reason that a guy like pistol pete, who was great in his own respect never won a championship because he never had a guy who was a strong second.

[ToTheLeft]

Pippen was not a superstar.

And Howard/Lewis is almost on par with Shaq/Wade at that point in Wade's career.

[Th3rd]

Pippen was not a superstar.

And Howard/Lewis is almost on par with Shaq/Wade at that point in Wade's career.

ok so jordan rodman

or jordan kerr
jordan grant


jordan had other stars around him.
and i said Lewis could possibly be the star so i take back what i said.

also pippen was a great player, good enough of a player to draw a little attention by defenders which freed up jordan from a triple team, that is the kind of number two player that is needed to win a championship, a player that can draw a little attention away from the superstar, and if left one on one can drop 20+ against his opponent.