If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By LCA&LU Mom
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dang. 11 minutes and no posts, did i kill the thread? i was just teasing! not like i sent y'all to time out or anything =/

please, carry on. it was amusing!
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By WWJFD
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i am hearing an announcement tomorrow or wednesday.... 2 names keep surfacing....soucie and odom... fwiw!
Last edited by WWJFD on April 7th, 2009, 2:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.
By olldflame
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LCA&LU Mom wrote::pray
Dear Lord,
Please let JB make an announcement soon so that the FFers can stop hating on each other. Amen.

Mom
I've got nothin but love for my peeps at ff.


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By ToTheLeft
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WWJFD wrote:i am hearing an announcement tomorrow.... 2 names keep surfacing....soucie and odom... fwiw!
Would be happy either way, but man would I love to get Odom.
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By RagingTireFire
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WWJFD wrote:i am hearing an announcement tomorrow
You can hear the future? Dude, that would have saved us a lot of grief over the last two weeks.
By Jesus First
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Odom would be great for the program, He woudnt leave us for Mckay like Soucie would
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By WWJFD
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i certainly did not rub my crystal ball that's for sure..
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By ToTheLeft
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WWJFD wrote:i certainly did not rub my crystal ball that's for sure..
Good, cuz if you do that too much you go blind.
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By WWJFD
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that is why i can hear the future.... :speakhearsee
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By "R" i "
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what is odom's first name. I am having a hard time locating him in this thread.

thanks in advance.

(i rubbed my crystal ball and knew someone was goin to answer me.)
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By BJWilliams
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[quote=""R" i ""]what is odom's first name. I am having a hard time locating him in this thread.

thanks in advance.

(i rubbed my crystal ball and knew someone was goin to answer me.)[/quote]

Ryan Odom, as has been said before he was a candidate for the HPU job
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By WWJFD
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sounds like alot of people are rubbing their crystal balls...
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By Cider Jim
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By Hold My Own
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I have a question...how do we know right now that we are not a stepping stone for Odam?
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By BJWilliams
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Frankly as a fan Id say we dont. LU wins 20+ again next year and at or near the top of the conference and peopel are certainly gonna start talking.
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By Rooster Cogburn
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http://www.roanoke.com/sports/vtbasketball/wb/154428
Ryan Odom, though, has no intention of leaving college coaching. He hopes to be a head coach himself one day -- just like his father.

"There are a lot of things he does that I'm going to try to emulate," Ryan Odom said. "He's got a lot of great friends through basketball. ... If I can have that, then I will have had a good life and a good career."
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By jcmanson
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Hold My Own wrote:I have a question...how do we know right now that we are not a stepping stone for Odam?
We would be. I have no problem with that if he were to come here and build this program to the top of the conference, and after at least 5 years leaves, while we are still on the rise, to become a head coach at a lower BCS school.
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By RagingTireFire
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Hold My Own wrote:I have a question...how do we know right now that we are not a stepping stone for Odam?
Assume that we are. If we're to hire a coach without ambition we may as well not hire one at all.
By Jesus First
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[quote]I have a question...how do we know right now that we are not a stepping stone for Odam?

We dont know, but i would much rather take the risk with odom , then i would with soucie with the strong Mckay connection
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By WWJFD
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5 years would be great if we could get that!
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By ToTheLeft
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RagingTireFire wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:I have a question...how do we know right now that we are not a stepping stone for Odam?
Assume that we are. If we're to hire a coach without ambition we may as well not hire one at all.
Exactly... it's not the fact that Ritchie left after two years... it's how he acted/what he said before he left, where he left to, what big events happened before he left, etc. Odom would probably bolt as soon as he good a good enough offer, and I think we'd be somewhat okay with that.

However, there is a chance we could find a guy who would stick and stay, that would just be difficult, and not something we should hire for. It should just be a bonus if we get it.
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By "R" i "
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We build a clause into his contract, "if you leave within 5 years of being hired, you have to pay us lots of money"

This will cause him to build for five years, but also remain motivated and aspire to move up in the coaching ranks
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By RagingTireFire
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[quote=""R" i ""]We build a clause into his contract, "if you leave within 5 years of being hired, you have to pay us lots of money"

This will cause him to build for five years, but also remain motivated and aspire to move up in the coaching ranks[/quote]

Or to go somewhere else where they're not going to put that clause in the contract. Liberty just doesn't have the juice to put those kind of restrictions in yet.
By olldflame
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It would take a tremendous level of success at LU for a guy like Ryan Odom, in his first HC job, to get an offer from a BCS level school in less than 5 years. As far as a big time assistant position is concerned.................... that's what he has now, and he would have to leave it to take our job if it were offered.
By Hold My Own
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RagingTireFire wrote:
Hold My Own wrote:I have a question...how do we know right now that we are not a stepping stone for Odam?
Assume that we are. If we're to hire a coach without ambition we may as well not hire one at all.


I just dont agree....you cant tell me that Carry Green's, Tolsma's and others dont have ambition. You can find someone with the ambition to make Liberty compete at the national level. I much rather have Soucie or DL but that's just me
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