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By FlameDad
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#121626
RubberMallet wrote:it only takes 4 hours to get your concealed weapons permit?....stupid


i have a few

reminton 1100
remington 870 express 20ga
benelli nova 12 ga
ruger 10/22
s&w .38 cal revolver
springfield XD .45

and in my possession currently is a springfield armory m1-garand. my brother's buddy's father is a collector and has a few....i may buy it...
Buy the Garand
If you do not want to, sell it to me.
I had an original and sold it (see post a few back)
Huge mistake - just a great firearm
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By JDUB
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#121748
i love guns. i'm not going to make a list of what i have, but i have a few.
i think you have to be 21 to get a concealed carry, at least in nc you do. so... wait about another year and i'll be ready to sign up for a class, that way i can get it on my birthday.
i love pistol shooting too. if anyone knows somewhere and wants to get together let me know... i'll shoot anything. i just need somewhere to store the guns at. obviously the dorm is not the answer.
if anyone wants to shoot long range or has somewhere to hunt, i could bring up a rifle or shotgun also.

my current gun that will probably become my carry is a S&W 45
By Stevewalt
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#121764
I believe it depends if you want it for fun or for protection.

Fun go with an automatic (I prefer HK or Glock - I have 3 HK 9mm,.40,.45; 1 Glock 9mm; 1 S&W 357 magnum 7" barrel; 1 cobra .25 auto the wifes; WWII ruger auto from grandfather-in-law)

Protection go with a revolver - less problems with malfunctions. that's why most police backup guns are revolvers. (yes coming from a police officer brother-in-law)

Be sure to go somewhere you can try them out first because there is a difference with mechanics and action and of course calibers.
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By FlameDad
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#121848
JDUB - a 45 is a lot of iron for a concealed carry piece.
Stevewalt makes an excellent point about revolvers however a semi is flatter & more comfortable for carry concealed in a leg or waistband holster.
For home defense, and to avoid taking out someone 2 rooms away, go the Mallet route - shotgun is by far the choice
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By JDUB
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#121873
i've got a shotgun already for home defense. pistol grip 12 gauge more specifically
my 45 fits in my jeans pocket barely... it will be fine in a waist holster until i find something else, i do plan on getting a revolver in the next couple years with the intent of putting it in an ankle holster.
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By RubberMallet
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#121878
where the fuzz do some of you guys live?...
By Knucklehead
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#121882
I have no opinion for public posting. 8)
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By JDUB
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#121895
RubberMallet wrote:where the fuzz do some of you guys live?...
on campus 8)
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By PAmedic
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#121902
FlameDad wrote:JDUB - a 45 is a lot of iron for a concealed carry piece.
For home defense, and to avoid taking out someone 2 rooms away, go the Mallet route - shotgun is by far the choice
agree w/ DAD on both points.

and yes- the methodology in home defense is:
  • A. Point 12 gage down hallway
    B. squeeze trigger
    C. Pump 1x and repeat until he/she/it stops moving
Last edited by PAmedic on April 27th, 2008, 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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By JDUB
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PAmedic wrote:
FlameDad wrote:JDUB - a 45 is a lot of iron for a concealed carry piece.
For home defense, and to avoid taking out someone 2 rooms away, go the Mallet route - shotgun is by far the choice
agree w/ DAD on both points.

I carry (concealed) a nine. Anything else would be wider than me (notice I didn't say LONGER)

and yes- the methodology in home defense is:
  • A. Point 12 gage down hallway
    B. squeeze trigger
    C. Pump 1x and repeat until he/she/it stops moving
i haven't gotten a concealed holster yet, so i haven't tried it yet except just stuck behind my belt. from what you guys are saying i may be reconsidering that one. it may become my truck gun. idk, i kind of would like to have a 40 magnum 2" as my truck gun though
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By RubberMallet
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#121913
seriously yuo guys must live in the ghetto
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By El Scorcho
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#121935
RubberMallet wrote:seriously yuo guys must live in the ghetto
Sort of.
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By JDUB
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#121970
have any of you tried those belly band holsters? they seem popular online, as far as a lot of companies are carrying them and i see a lot of ads in magazines.
i don't think i'd like it for every day, but maybe for certain occasions. idk, they say your supposed to where the same one all the time so your used to it.
By Hold My Own
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Ok...i'm bringing this thread back to life...sad that Scorchy cant be here to chime in but hopefully i'll get a PM from him.


With yet another shooting taking place .5 miles from my house (and SJ for that matter) I'm speeding up the process of getting my concealed weapons license. From what I hear it's an 8 hour class in the city....has anyone done that yet?


After all of my research I've decided to go with the Glock 27 .40 S&W. It appears to be my best choice to carry since it has a good mix of both power and size. The best price I've found is $450 online and I would need to have it sent to a FFL dealer here in lynchburg which will cost me a bit more.


Here are some questions...

1. Does anyone have the concealed weapons license? How was the process

2. Where is the best place to get a Glock? I see people online making statements like "I would never pay over $400 for a Glock" b/c they find them for better prices but ALWAYS fail to mention where!!! All of the area pawn shops sell them for $600

3. Does anyone want to join me in that class?
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By PAmedic
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#172475
HMO-

before you buy, talk to the local five-oh

I'm sure you know at least ONE of those guys, and they can recommend a dealer that will make sure you get the best price.
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By JDUB
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another thing about the 5-0 is if you keep your ears open you can find out when they change guns and get some great deals.. somehow i keep missing out, and i have family in it. I'm going to be taking the class in NC, sorry HMO. I'll probably take it in the spring of next year some time.
I need a new gun before I take the class, so let us know how you like whatever you end up going with
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By PAmedic
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PS: been doing some research and am very impressed with FNH. They make a .40 cal in several configurations (DAO, DA/SA) that's very nice and comes in about $450.00.

Made/imported in VA and/or SC, I believe.

http://www.fnhusa.com/le/products/firearms/new.asp
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By "R" i "
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#172632
gun shows.

raonoke and salem both host separate gun shows. You can find great deals on new guns. even lightly used ones.

the salem gun show was on the 20th of april. there is a gun show at the Richmond raceway on the 17th of may. The Roanoke Gun show is on the 16th and 17th of august in the roanoke civic center.


Also there are a few public shooting ranges in Roanoke. And from what i can remember it is quite inexpensive to go shoot.
By Hold My Own
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#172643
Great info guys...I need to check out that gun show


I went ahead and bout the Glock 27 .40sw for $450 so hopefully it'll be here soon!
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By RubberMallet
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my general feeling on concealed weapons permits is that 95% of people presented with a situation to actually use their concealed weapon would completely screw it up and injure others/themselves before anything good happens...

thus, i'm not a huge proponent of them...
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By RagingTireFire
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RubberMallet wrote:my general feeling on concealed weapons permits is that 95% of people presented with a situation to actually use their concealed weapon would completely screw it up and injure others/themselves before anything good happens...
I'm trying to imagine a situation in which you would need to use a weapon where anything good could happen at all. In my experience, there aren't going to be a lot of crises that culminate in a barn dance breaking out.

Having a weapon isn't about prevention, it's about minimizing the damage.
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By RubberMallet
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RagingTireFire wrote:
RubberMallet wrote:my general feeling on concealed weapons permits is that 95% of people presented with a situation to actually use their concealed weapon would completely screw it up and injure others/themselves before anything good happens...
I'm trying to imagine a situation in which you would need to use a weapon where anything good could happen at all. In my experience, there aren't going to be a lot of crises that culminate in a barn dance breaking out.

Having a weapon isn't about prevention, it's about minimizing the damage.
you get held up at gunpoint...instead of handing the guy your purse, you whip out pistol and he puts a bullet in your head...i guess i shouldn't of used the word good and instead said, make a bad situation worse...

when all is said and done you are more likely to crap your pants then pull out your pistol and shoot someone.....sure its nice to think you would but until you are put in the situation (ESPECIALLY IF ALL YOUVE DONE IS RANGE SHOOTING) you have no idea what its like or how you'll react...

police officers who train probably 10x as much per year on armed confrontations still screw up these kind of situations occasionally....whta chances do a soccer mom or anyone else who doesn't deal with it everyday have at turnign a any kind of situatiion into a better one by carrying...
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By ToTheLeft
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RubberMallet wrote:
RagingTireFire wrote:
RubberMallet wrote:my general feeling on concealed weapons permits is that 95% of people presented with a situation to actually use their concealed weapon would completely screw it up and injure others/themselves before anything good happens...
I'm trying to imagine a situation in which you would need to use a weapon where anything good could happen at all. In my experience, there aren't going to be a lot of crises that culminate in a barn dance breaking out.

Having a weapon isn't about prevention, it's about minimizing the damage.
you get held up at gunpoint...instead of handing the guy your purse, you whip out pistol and he puts a bullet in your head...i guess i shouldn't of used the word good and instead said, make a bad situation worse...

when all is said and done you are more likely to crap your pants then pull out your pistol and shoot someone.....sure its nice to think you would but until you are put in the situation (ESPECIALLY IF ALL YOUVE DONE IS RANGE SHOOTING) you have no idea what its like or how you'll react...

police officers who train probably 10x as much per year on armed confrontations still screw up these kind of situations occasionally....whta chances do a soccer mom or anyone else who doesn't deal with it everyday have at turnign a any kind of situatiion into a better one by carrying...
:exactly
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By matshark
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RubberMallet wrote:
RagingTireFire wrote:
RubberMallet wrote:my general feeling on concealed weapons permits is that 95% of people presented with a situation to actually use their concealed weapon would completely screw it up and injure others/themselves before anything good happens...
I'm trying to imagine a situation in which you would need to use a weapon where anything good could happen at all. In my experience, there aren't going to be a lot of crises that culminate in a barn dance breaking out.

Having a weapon isn't about prevention, it's about minimizing the damage.
you get held up at gunpoint...instead of handing the guy your purse, you whip out pistol and he puts a bullet in your head...i guess i shouldn't of used the word good and instead said, make a bad situation worse...

when all is said and done you are more likely to crap your pants then pull out your pistol and shoot someone.....sure its nice to think you would but until you are put in the situation (ESPECIALLY IF ALL YOUVE DONE IS RANGE SHOOTING) you have no idea what its like or how you'll react...

police officers who train probably 10x as much per year on armed confrontations still screw up these kind of situations occasionally....whta chances do a soccer mom or anyone else who doesn't deal with it everyday have at turnign a any kind of situatiion into a better one by carrying...
actually, there's no guarantee he isnt going to put a bullet in your head anyways... and yes, i would rather take my chances with my own gun than to leave it up to the 'kindness and generosity' of an armed criminal...

and bringing police officers into this isn't really relevant. many police officers cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, and many times the only time they EVER fire their weapon is during qualifications once or twice a year. (i have friends in LEO that practice a lot, but they are NOT the norm...) that being said, many private citizens are MUCH better shots than regular law enforcement.

further, there is a lot of evidence to show that firearms in the hands of private citizens prevent roughly 2 MILLION crimes every year. (often without having a single shot fired...)

it is my personal experience that the people who complain the loudest against private citizens owning and carrying weapons to protect themselves, also complain the loudest when the police 'fail' to protect them from crimes. however, the Supreme Court has already ruled that the job of law enforcement is not to prevent crimes, but rather to respond to crimes AFTER they have occurred. That being the case, the job of crime prevention and personal protection is up to us and i encourage every law abiding citizen to carry a firearm in accordance with state law and local regulations.

further, i've found that those who belittle the rights and abilities of their fellow citizens (for example over their ability to shoot properly and carry a weapon, etc...) often have an elitist POV with little awareness of the reality of that particular situation.

An armed society is a polite society. And some day someone's life might be saved by that neighbor (that they thought was incompetent for carrying a gun) because that neighbor had a gun for personal protection and crime prevention and the person in trouble didnt.

Personally, I would like to see gun safety classes taught in HS just the same as drivers education classes. Ironically, gun ownership is a right, not a privilege, where as driving is a privilege, not a right. However, cars do little to secure a safe environment and society for their owners.

In a day in age when criminals (increasingly teenagers - and young teenagers at that) become more and more violent and bold, it is up to the citizens to protect themselves and the best way to do that is to carry a firearm.
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