[Cider Jim]

You can't become a teacher without actual classroom experience.

But you can earn a Ph.D. and teach in college without ever taking an education course.

[RagingTireFire]

But you can earn a Ph.D. and teach in college without ever taking an education course.

So there's hope for the home-schoolers after all.

[jmdickens]

I felt the same way as Adam, until I came to Liberty and met other students.......that changed quickly. But, while I was taught at a private school my mother taught me math and science at home when I was young.....

Neither of my parents graduated college college; however I easily got A's in Math and Science here at Liberty without studying....Thanks to mom..

Now, on the eve of law school I can testify about myself that Homeschooling works...

Public and Private School works as well; but I think it should rest on the parents and the students

The Government should stay out of it...........

[jmdickens]

Since were on this topic of government schools........I found this on a military forum then on Neal Boortz website....

It's a page out of an "Activity Book" published by Harcourt Brace, now called Harcourt Education. This page is entitled "Rights & Wrongs" and comes from the Harcourt social studies textbook "United States in Modern Times." The heading for this page says "In the late eighteenth century many people complained that the Constitution did not list rights of the people. So the authors of the Constitution decided to write a Bill of Rights. These first ten amendments to the Constitution state simply and clearly citizens' rights that the government cannot take away."

This particular page (page 14) of the "Activity Book" then lists the Bill of Rights with short explanations of each one. I thought you might like to see what this book says about the 2nd Amendment:

"The Second Amendment * says that states may enlist citizens for a trained militia [army] and provide and train them with weapons."

Are you believing that? This, my friends, is the way the government schools work to indoctrinate rather than educate. In the heading Harcourt says that the Bill of Rights protects the rights of the people ... then they go on to say that the 2nd Amendment actually protects the rights of government....

[scuzdriver]

I felt the same way as Adam, until I came to Liberty and met other students.......that changed quickly. But, while I was taught at a private school my mother taught me math and science at home when I was young.....

Neither of my parents graduated college college; however I easily got A's in Math and Science here at Liberty without studying....Thanks to mom..

Now, on the eve of law school I can testify about myself that Homeschooling works...

Public and Private School works as well; but I think it should rest on the parents and the students

The Government should stay out of it...........

.....and there is alot more stories just like yours. Good luck at law school!

[01LUGrad]

Wow. This thread is pretty incredible.

There are many great parents out there who do an excellent job teaching their kids at home. There is no doubt in my mind that is the case. (I have even met a few homeschooled kids who were well adjusted socially. )
Those parents would have no problem passing a test that checks their basic knowledge of the four core subjects. I'm not suggesting that parents should have to student teach to be able to stay at home and teach Junior, just pass a simple test.

There are idiots in the public school system. We had one for a year at my school. Class A nutjob. She lasted 8 months and was sent packing. I can honestly say that I would feel very comfortable having my soon-to-be-born son in any of the other teachers' classrooms (about 80 in the building who were required to pass certain standards to be in their positions).

But really, why is it such a big deal that the government test to be sure the kids aren't being taught by morons? Again, most parents would pass with no problem and could move on. Don't the kids who have morons for parents have a right to get a decent education? If they don't I'll end up paying for their jail cell. (VA determines the number of prison cells in advance by looking at high school drop out rates.)

[Sly Fox]

Federal and state funding for schools comes from enrollment numbers. With the left wing curriculum being crammed down students' throats in Cali there has been a wave of parents pulling their kids out of the public school system. This measure is an effort to force some folks back into the system so the school districts can tap into Uncle Sam for more funds.

Never mind the fact that they already are getting property tax money from parents. The motivations of these moves are hardly the legislators empathy for the children of California. It is pure greed.

I have practically zero interest in homeschooling my kids. But if I were in California it would be very tempting. Most all of our friends here in Houston who came from California (which is a very large number) all complain to know end about the product being shoved down the throats of their kids. Not all districts are bad out there. But enough are to make it a very difficult situation at times.

[RubberMallet]

I am going to be in the minority here but I think it's a good idea that somebody who is teaching children have the proper training necessary to see that they receive a good education. I went to a large (for this area - 600+ students) Christian school K-12 and I wish that the teachers there were qualified to teach us properly. Because the school was private, we had many teachers who had never graduated college. Granted, there were some very good teachers but overall I felt I got an inferior education, especially in math and lower level science courses. I felt like I was not prepared for college when I got to Liberty. I am all for some sort of teaching requirement for home educators (and private school educators for that matter).

HEIL!

[LUconn]

(VA determines the number of prison cells in advance by looking at high school drop out rates.)

I think if snopes had a virginia specific website, this would be on the front page. It just reaks of something someone got in an email one time.

[matshark]

I was home-schooled in part of 1st, then 4th and 6th grades.

Thanks to my mom, I was reading by the time I was 4, and post HS in all my SAT scores (those stupid standardized tests you have to take) by the time I was in 5th grade.

there is definitely something to be said for home schooling. the quality of the education is through the roof. I can honestly say that I learned very little in HS (and I went to a PRIVATE school). in fact, everything I learned in HS came from me reading the bosk on my own, and not from the teachers.

I strongly believe that the 1st Amendment gives parents the right to choose to home school their kids. If the government shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, isn't forcing kids to go to a public school (where they are taught that there is no God) the government establishment of Athiesm?

When i was home schooled, I simply had to go to a normal school to take evaluative tests to see where I was.

PSAT, I scored 96th percentile, and it had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with my private school education. SAT, I scored a disappointing 1400. (It was the morning of graduation. I just took it to get it over with and get a score so I could put it on my LU application... real motivation, i know...)

The point is that given the standards of behavior of most kids in public schools, you would think that CA would want more students home schooled so they have less people going to prison. I agree with SF, this decision is all about money.