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HenryGale wrote:I'm not knocking JB. It was a joke about comparing it to marriage.FlameNForest wrote:Everybody needs to cut Barber some slack here....he is looking out for his family and what he feels is best for him. It is not like he has applied at Longwood, Emory and Henry, LC, Averett, AND Hampden Sydney...trying to get out of LU. He has applied at LSU...one of the premiere jobs in the country for an AD.#10 wrote: It is like a marriage. There is commitment involved.Ain't that the truth.
I mean, when you get married you need to at least wait more than two years to start looking around...
Fumblerooskies wrote:I do not see where any overt attacking is taking place. Many of us disagree with checkers, here...but he DOES make a valid point in regards to infusion of money. I know of at least one very successful coach who scheduled the tough teams, made the NCAA tournament, and left LU due to the annual March budget freezes and other budgetary concerns.Thanks fumble...my point is that the position has been upgraded. When LCA was given new facilities and the commitment to give the graduates free tuition at LU it became the largest private hs in VA. The institutional $$ set them up. Give the credit where it is due JF and now JFjr.
As far as JB goes, he HAS been given the $$, and the authority that previous AD's never enjoyed...and it has created a whole new dynamic on campus.
SuperJon wrote:Listen, in keeping things fair you can't boldly make the statement that barber is raising more than any other administration because the bottomline is you can't see Liberty's financials and no matter what your told by sources you can't prove that fact. If he is, great though....don't get me wrong im happy about his ability to relate with fans and alumni.checkmate wrote:You guys act like JB has done something beyond what he has done. Yes he has organized the $$$ that the administration opened up for him and put up new flag poles, painted a few steps and doubled a few budgets. It is an administrative job unlike coaches who compete everyday against other DI programs. He didn't build us an FOC, stadium or arena. He is here in the time frame of a greater commitment to athletics from a $$$ standpoint. Burch and Graham would have looked alot better if they had been given the green $$$ light. Let's not act like he walks on water...he can just infuse $$$ given by the institution to his department. We have coaches who if they had chose to pursue secular platforms could be successful at any level. Successful coaches were in place before Barber and will be here long after he is gone. And with the level of commitment from the university some AD with find this his dream job and use it for a ministry not just use it.He may have a larger budget, but he's also raising exponentially more through donations and other types of giving than any other administration. Case in point is this year's basketball season: no one would be donate the money to put together promotions and things of that nature during the previous staff. This year they're getting more donations and you're seeing more things during games, whether it's halftime shows, t-shirt giveaways, or whatever. There's also major Vines Center renovations planned. We've gotten suites for football, a jumbotron, and there are plans for other things for when the time comes. There are plans to upgrade every single facility on campus for every single sport. To say he's done nothing is absolutely ignorant, and something I expect from someone like you.
checkmate wrote: And some of Jerry's major donors are now giving directly to athletics instead of to JFM.Any thoughts as to why....I got one
grm wrote:Always enjoy reading Chris' articles.... Longwood means nothing right now... The only essential games are the BS ones,How negative was that?
but this one might be essential in terms of getting home court, which can be essential in the BS.
(I think I just flunked freshman comp)
Go Flames!
Knucklehead wrote:I missed that one, is it your first positive post?He has never been an AD before. Celebrate the university's commitment not somebody who is looking for his next gig before he has accomplished anyhting of significance. LU gave him his first AD job. It wasn't like he had been an AD at even a DII institution. I grew up around Marines...loyalty in that generation was not self-promotion. Find a grinder who will commit to an athletic strategic plan and truly take us to another level.
I love the Go Flames!
Good job! Keep up the good work!
Look JB is a doing a great job with what he has been given. You would expect that part of hiring aa experienced AD for the first time is giving him more money and more power. So he got it and has used it to the best possible. I hope he stays, but if he leaves I can't blame him!
checkmate wrote:well he has done a great job for his first time being an AD. He has created much more excitment around LU athletics than i have ever seen in my time at LU. so stop with your dumb bitterness towards him already and quit living in the past. You haven't said a positive thing on this board ever since you have been on here. But i expect that from someone like you.Knucklehead wrote:I missed that one, is it your first positive post?He has never been an AD before. Celebrate the university's commitment not somebody who is looking for his next gig before he has accomplished anyhting of significance. LU gave him his first AD job. It wasn't like he had been an AD at even a DII institution. I grew up around Marines...loyalty in that generation was not self-promotion. Find a grinder who will commit to an athletic strategic plan and truly take us to another level.
I love the Go Flames!
Good job! Keep up the good work!
Look JB is a doing a great job with what he has been given. You would expect that part of hiring aa experienced AD for the first time is giving him more money and more power. So he got it and has used it to the best possible. I hope he stays, but if he leaves I can't blame him!
Knucklehead wrote:Funny how Checkmate and GRM always show up at the same time and always say the same negative things.
Can one of you 2 please post 1 positive comment. It would make me feel better.
I would also wish for you to come to grips with your bitterness and move on from whatever confrontation caused you both to be such giant jerks.
Life goes on please move on or move away!
on your parade. First there is alot of positives at LU. Secondly I don't need grm to hold my hand in expressing what is truth. There is way too many inconsistencies to say we are the only negative ones. Just because we see another perspective and are willing to articulate it some of you cry foul. Well we are moving on to the future just that some want it build on solid christian prinicples not slick manipulation of a self-serving agenda.checkmate wrote:Well we are moving on to the future just that some want it build on solid christian prinicples not slick manipulation of a self-serving agenda.
RagingTireFire wrote:you are hilarious RTFcheckmate wrote:Well we are moving on to the future just that some want it build on solid christian prinicples not slick manipulation of a self-serving agenda.
Oh, that was good. Let me read that last sentence again.
Yup, still funny.
RagingTireFire wrote:Here they come grm...Rallying the troops...we got our jackasses if we could only find a jawbone!checkmate wrote:Well we are moving on to the future just that some want it build on solid christian prinicples not slick manipulation of a self-serving agenda.
Oh, that was good. Let me read that last sentence again.
Yup, still funny.
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