[Hold My Own]

I'm really only posting this b/c just tonight at the basketball game I was talking about Indiana with those around me and I told them I doubt Sampson will make it 3 more years there because of violations. Just 5 minutes ago ESPN announced breaking news to come out shortly about major violations in the basketball program. Ironnnnnnnny


I'm not sure if this will amount to anything but it's just a matter of time before KS is fired...he CANNOT run a clean program and he's proven this time after time. I am told from those who personally know him that he's a great guy and very loyal...and that's good to hear, it's just a shame he cant stay out of trouble to long.

[TDDance234]

Isn't that why KS was run out of Oklahoma?

[Hold My Own]

You are correct...here is the latest...I think tomorrow there will be more details....

Updated: February 13, 2008, 12:25 AM ET


The NCAA sent a notice of allegations to Indiana University last Friday detailing major violations in the men's basketball program, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

Larry MacIntyre, assistant vice president for university communications at Indiana University, confirmed to ESPN.com that the school did receive documentation from the NCAA last week.

The Associated Press reported on Tuesday night that the school will make the allegations public on Wednesday. University trustees president Stephen Ferguson told AP that school officials this week reviewed the report, but that the NCAA is not expected to make its ruling until this summer.

"There won't be a hearing till this June," Ferguson told AP. "It's just been reviewed, and I think everyone is analyzing it now."

MacIntyre said he was unable to provide any more information. But MacIntyre said he was working on providing a copy of the documentation in a request made by ESPN.com through the Freedom of Information Act.

But ESPN.com has learned over the last week that the NCAA uncovered new information since Indiana self-reported violations under second-year head coach Kelvin Sampson in October.

Sampson had been sanctioned after making impermissible phone calls while he was the coach at Oklahoma. Indiana then revealed more bad calls while Sampson was at IU. Multiple sources told ESPN.com that the NCAA was looking into whether Sampson did not tell the truth about those calls, resulting in the allegations of major violations.

This new information that helped result in a major violations tag could put the season of Indiana (No. 12 ESPN/USA Today, No. 13 AP) under a cloud of uncertainty and the career of Sampson as well.

ESPN.com made multiple efforts to reach Indiana athletic director Rick Greenspan over the past week and he never returned calls. Sampson didn't return a message Tuesday.

Indiana will have 90 days to respond to the letter. The committee on infractions has a hearing in April, but because of the 90-day window the hearing isn't expected to take place until the June meeting. That means Indiana may not have closure on the matter until late into the summer.

"The report came out in October, the university filed its response and there's really not been anything happening [on the board] in the last five months," Ferguson told AP. "There have not been any discussions."

A postseason ban for the Hoosiers would only come into play if IU decided to self-impose such a measure since the committee on infractions won't meet until June. According to multiple sources, a postseason ban would only occur if there were an issue with the eligibility of any current student athletes, which ESPN.com has been told isn't an issue yet.

The NCAA investigation came after Indiana made an announcement in October that Sampson had made 100 impermissible phone calls while he was on probation for illicit calls he made while he was the coach at Oklahoma from 2000 to 2006. During that time, he made 577 impermissible calls.

Sampson was penalized by Oklahoma by not being allowed to travel for recruiting. Indiana imposed the same penalty in his first season at IU. He was also banned from making calls and going off campus to recruit for a calendar year. He wasn't banned from text messaging since it was allowed during that year. But it was during that year that he made the impermissible calls.

Sampson wasn't allowed to take part in three-way calls, originated by anyone on the staff. In October, Indiana made public that former assistant Rob Senderoff initiated three-way calls. During the October news conference, Indiana said that Sampson said he was unaware he was participating on a three-way call. Senderoff, who was forced to resign, said he didn't let Sampson know he was on a three-way call, either. Prior to being forced out, Senderoff was told he couldn't recruit off campus for a year or make a phone call. The same restriction was put on Dan Dakich, who has since been moved up to an assistant position from director of basketball operations.

Sampson was hit with more penalties by the school, forfeiting a $500,000 raise, and a scholarship was taken away from the team.

[TDDance234]

You think you'd learn SOMETHING after forfeiting a $500k raise. Sheesh.

[Fumblerooskies]

I wonder if this will taint JM so he will be unhirable?

[olldflame]

If Eric Gordon's younger son is as good as they say, someone will have a job for JM, no matter what.

[flamesbball84]

Well if Indiana gets punished severely because of this - most notably any postseason bans - Gordon should be all but guaranteed to bolt to the nba this summer. He was probably going to go anyways, but this would only solidify it.

[flamesbball84]

I bet Indiana is wishing they hadn't fired Bob Knight now. This never would have happened had they kept Knight...

[Fumblerooskies]

I bet Indiana is wishing they hadn't fired Bob Knight now. This never would have happened had they kept Knight...

Bobby Knight IS available after they fire Sampson.

[bigsmooth]

would the general come back????

[RagingTireFire]

I think there's a better chance of him going back to coach the JV team at that Ohio high school again.

[Hold My Own]

To me....this is Karma on SO many levels....


1st you fire a coach who has NEVER had 1 major violation
2nd you hire a coach who is unable to stay clean and his track record proves it




As far as JM goes, theres no doubt there have been times when he was asked to do something that may have been against the rules...thats what you get when your boss is this type person

[checkmate]

JM worked at Missouri and they went down to violations and now IU??

[Fumblerooskies]

Have to concur with checkmate on this one...
...and this just in:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3243793

That Sampson, assistant coach Jeff Meyer and former assistant Rob Senderoff failed to comply with sanctions imposed on Sampson for impermissible recruiting calls he made while he was the head coach at Oklahoma. Sampson was under such sanctions when he was hired to coach the Hoosiers in May 2006.

That Senderoff and Meyer placed "at least 25 telephone calls" to nine potential recruits that exceeded NCAA limits even if no sanctions had been in place.

That Sampson and Meyer engaged in an impermissible recruiting contact during a two-day sports camp held at Assembly Hall last June 30 and July 1, and that Meyer provided the potential recruit with an impermissible benefit -- at least one T-shirt and drawstring backpack.

[Hold My Own]

Yikes! he was named this time! Last time they only mentioned the other assistant coach, but I said on here that I'm sure he wasnt the only one told or acted on their own to make phone calls that may be in violation.

[checkmate]

Bloomington's Herald round #1: http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/storie ... 077719.sto

[Ed Dantes]

JM worked at Missouri and they went down to violations and now IU??

Wow, you're right -- this guy is poison. Liberty, ran off... Winthrop, got into a fight... Mizzou, scandal... Indiana, scandal...

[belcherboy]

I remember when Meyer got canned at Liberty. It was under shady circumstances IIRC. Nothing this serious, but shady none the less.

Here is another one:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3243793

Sampson and Senderoff, who resigned his position Oct. 30, are alleged to have jointly participated in telephone calls at a time when Sampson was prohibited from being present or taking part when staff members made recruiting calls. Senderoff and Meyer are alleged to have made about 100 calls that exceeded the sanction limits.

[ALAFlamesFan]

To me....this is Karma on SO many levels....


1st you fire a coach who has NEVER had 1 major violation
2nd you hire a coach who is unable to stay clean and his track record proves it




As far as JM goes, theres no doubt there have been times when he was asked to do something that may have been against the rules...thats what you get when your boss is this type person

Totally agree with all of the above. It looks to me like most of the violations by JM and the other assistant would have been minor but for Sampson's past and the subsequent probation. The real killer for Sampson is that he apparently lied about all this.

Also if it were not for Myles Brand (Former IU president and now head of NCAA) trying to win brownie points with his peers as some kind of tough guy IU would still have a spotless NCAA reputation and just as many wins imo.

[flamesbball84]

JM's daughter is hot though haha

[Hold My Own]

hmmm...imma need a photo on that...I remember Josh...every now and then I see him sitting behind the bench

[flamesbball84]

hmmm...imma need a photo on that...I remember Josh...every now and then I see him sitting behind the bench

Well I don't have a picture. I can't remember what her first name is either.

[TIMSCAR20]

I'm going up there this weekend to spend some time with coach and the Hoosiers. Not great timing I know but my plane tickets are non-refundable Eric Gordon's 2 little brothers are said to be better than him. The youngest is in 5th grade so who knows. Jr is NBA bound no matter what. Coach will bounce back from this one. He needs his own mid major program to clean up his rep. I am still looking forward to the game vs Michigan State this weekend!!!!

[checkmate]

jm will definitely have a hard time with getting a mid major job.

[Sly Fox]

Since the day he left Butler, Jeff has been guilty by association being connected with snakes like Quin & Kelvin. It was inevitable when you are around those types of guys long enough to get dragged into a mess like this.

At least Jeff had the forthrightness to immediately issue an apology. Neither his current boss or his previous one would ever dream of taking that route.

As for him getting another Mid-Major chance, I would bet he does. Schools will quickly look past indiscretions if they see an opportunity to win right away. And EJ is evidence that he can deliver the goods.