[jcmanson]

He is 6'4", probably a 2 but may play 3 depending on the rest of the team. He will play some next year. Very athletic, slasher type.

[paradox]

If this isn't his best class ever than I am withdrawing my support from the program.

Now let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. I think this will be a good recruiting class, but I have thought that before and it never panned out - I think only time will tell. Lets see what happens when they get here and start to play. It's hard to know how good someone is until they get here - Monroe was supposed to be a stud coming in and look how that turned out. McMasters is not the immediate answer - he is not D1 ready right now and Curry is a small guard - just because his brother is making noise at this level - doesn't mean he is the second coming of Dell.

To this to be the best ever - we need to add a power center to the mix - Blair and Dees class was pretty good too, so were the classes that included Porter, Monroe, McLean, Baker and Elijah Miller. We have never been short on prospects here at Liberty - there have been big names come here - Brewington, Bannister, etc... Just short on getting them to play well and as a team.

For starters, you're a little mixed-up on your recruiting classes, transfers, and who fits in where.

Secondly, Russ Monroe wore the project label from the begining with little to no D1 interest outside of LU. McMasters, on the other hand, had extensive interest from major programs, and is clearly our top-rated prospective center since Jeremy Day and Peter Aluma. It's been 10-15 years since we've had a big man coming in with his credentials.

As far as Curry goes, he's already being compared to his brother, and it's been published in this thread that some are saying that Seth is ahead of where Steph was at this stage, and that when it's all said and done Seth may emerge as the better of the two brothers. I don't remember LU ever landing a recruit that was spoken of in these terms. Add in his family pedigree, and Seth is easily the biggest recruit coming in that LU has ever landed at the guard position.

[kel varson]

If this isn't his best class ever than I am withdrawing my support from the program.

Now let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. I think this will be a good recruiting class, but I have thought that before and it never panned out - I think only time will tell. Lets see what happens when they get here and start to play. It's hard to know how good someone is until they get here - Monroe was supposed to be a stud coming in and look how that turned out. McMasters is not the immediate answer - he is not D1 ready right now and Curry is a small guard - just because his brother is making noise at this level - doesn't mean he is the second coming of Dell.

To this to be the best ever - we need to add a power center to the mix - Blair and Dees class was pretty good too, so were the classes that included Porter, Monroe, McLean, Baker and Elijah Miller. We have never been short on prospects here at Liberty - there have been big names come here - Brewington, Bannister, etc... Just short on getting them to play well and as a team.

Just joking around.

[paradox]

If this isn't his best class ever than I am withdrawing my support from the program.

Now let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. I think this will be a good recruiting class, but I have thought that before and it never panned out - I think only time will tell. Lets see what happens when they get here and start to play. It's hard to know how good someone is until they get here - Monroe was supposed to be a stud coming in and look how that turned out. McMasters is not the immediate answer - he is not D1 ready right now and Curry is a small guard - just because his brother is making noise at this level - doesn't mean he is the second coming of Dell.

To this to be the best ever - we need to add a power center to the mix - Blair and Dees class was pretty good too, so were the classes that included Porter, Monroe, McLean, Baker and Elijah Miller. We have never been short on prospects here at Liberty - there have been big names come here - Brewington, Bannister, etc... Just short on getting them to play well and as a team.

For starters, you're a little mixed-up on your recruiting classes, transfers, and who fits in where.

Secondly, Russ Monroe wore the project label from the begining with little to no D1 interest outside of LU. McMasters, on the other hand, had extensive interest from major programs, and is clearly our top-rated prospective center since Jeremy Day and Peter Aluma. It's been 10-15 years since we've had a big man coming in with his credentials.

As far as Curry goes, he's already being compared to his brother, and it's been published in this thread that some are saying that Seth is ahead of where Steph was at this stage, and that when it's all said and done Seth may emerge as the better of the two brothers. I don't remember LU ever landing a recruit that was spoken of in these terms. Add in his family pedigree, and Seth is easily the biggest recruit coming in that LU has ever landed at the guard position.

Kel, I knew you were joking --- this was meant for proto

[LUFlamer09]

"His defense on Cornelius was even more impressive. Curry's length bothered the future George Mason guard. Cornelius shot a cold three of 23 and had six turnovers in the game."

This is an added bonus, that I think was a little unexpected, to his game(we've always just heard how great of a shooter/PG he could be). Hopefully he can grow a little and any added length will not only be beneficial to his defense, but he'll be able to get his shot off easier as well.

[Rocketfan]

If this isn't his best class ever than I am withdrawing my support from the program.

Now let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. I think this will be a good recruiting class, but I have thought that before and it never panned out - I think only time will tell. Lets see what happens when they get here and start to play. It's hard to know how good someone is until they get here - Monroe was supposed to be a stud coming in and look how that turned out. McMasters is not the immediate answer - he is not D1 ready right now and Curry is a small guard - just because his brother is making noise at this level - doesn't mean he is the second coming of Dell.

To this to be the best ever - we need to add a power center to the mix - Blair and Dees class was pretty good too, so were the classes that included Porter, Monroe, McLean, Baker and Elijah Miller. We have never been short on prospects here at Liberty - there have been big names come here - Brewington, Bannister, etc... Just short on getting them to play well and as a team.

For starters, you're a little mixed-up on your recruiting classes, transfers, and who fits in where.

Secondly, Russ Monroe wore the project label from the begining with little to no D1 interest outside of LU. McMasters, on the other hand, had extensive interest from major programs, and is clearly our top-rated prospective center since Jeremy Day and Peter Aluma. It's been 10-15 years since we've had a big man coming in with his credentials.

As far as Curry goes, he's already being compared to his brother, and it's been published in this thread that some are saying that Seth is ahead of where Steph was at this stage, and that when it's all said and done Seth may emerge as the better of the two brothers. I don't remember LU ever landing a recruit that was spoken of in these terms. Add in his family pedigree, and Seth is easily the biggest recruit coming in that LU has ever landed at the guard position.

For starters one or two of Hankinsons recruiting classes was very highly ranked and did include a guard i believe....i think the point was, we have heard all the hype before, or seen some results when a player arrives and then the player drops off....think Monceaux. So until we see Curry reach the level of his brother im more of ill believe it when i see it type of guy and so is proto i believe.

[paradox]

Now let's not get ahead of ourselves just yet. I think this will be a good recruiting class, but I have thought that before and it never panned out - I think only time will tell. Lets see what happens when they get here and start to play. It's hard to know how good someone is until they get here - Monroe was supposed to be a stud coming in and look how that turned out. McMasters is not the immediate answer - he is not D1 ready right now and Curry is a small guard - just because his brother is making noise at this level - doesn't mean he is the second coming of Dell.

To this to be the best ever - we need to add a power center to the mix - Blair and Dees class was pretty good too, so were the classes that included Porter, Monroe, McLean, Baker and Elijah Miller. We have never been short on prospects here at Liberty - there have been big names come here - Brewington, Bannister, etc... Just short on getting them to play well and as a team.

For starters, you're a little mixed-up on your recruiting classes, transfers, and who fits in where.

Secondly, Russ Monroe wore the project label from the begining with little to no D1 interest outside of LU. McMasters, on the other hand, had extensive interest from major programs, and is clearly our top-rated prospective center since Jeremy Day and Peter Aluma. It's been 10-15 years since we've had a big man coming in with his credentials.

As far as Curry goes, he's already being compared to his brother, and it's been published in this thread that some are saying that Seth is ahead of where Steph was at this stage, and that when it's all said and done Seth may emerge as the better of the two brothers. I don't remember LU ever landing a recruit that was spoken of in these terms. Add in his family pedigree, and Seth is easily the biggest recruit coming in that LU has ever landed at the guard position.

For starters one or two of Hankinsons recruiting classes was very highly ranked and did include a guard i believe....i think the point was, we have heard all the hype before, or seen some results when a player arrives and then the player drops off....think Monceaux. So until we see Curry reach the level of his brother im more of ill believe it when i see it type of guy and so is proto i believe.

Hank claimed to have landed two NBA-level prospects: gaurd Antonio Burks and big man Chip Richmond. They were arguably the two biggest prospects ever landed by LU. The only problem: both backed out of their commitments and in essence Hank lost tons of credibility. Burks ended up starring at Memphis and later played breifly in the NBA. Richmond was a top-15 prep center who apparently applied for the NBA draft, didn't get signed, lost his NCAA eligibility, and fell off the face of the map.

If you think Monceaux was a top prospect, then you're misinformed. Like Russ Monroe, he had little to no D1 interest outside of LU.

If anything, Curry and McMasters are comparable to Burks and Richmond. The biggest difference is that Curry and McMasters will actually be here on the Vines hardwood next fall.

[LUconn]

Monceaux had very little interest, but was still very highly rated by the recruiting services. I guess that's a battle of semantics as to him being a top prospect. I think he was top 100 and the highest LU has ever gotten.

[Rocketfan]

Dox - Before Jeremys ACL tear he had some pretty major interest ( ive got multiple sites confirming offers from Auburn, GT, and NC State), a lot bigger than Russ had, so your wrong....

The guy broke the alabama high school scoring record and avg. over 40 pts a game - http://www.ncsaa.org/stat_record_board. ... Basketball

http://www.rockchalk.com/recruiting/mbb ... jeremy.sht

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basket ... rs_spring/

#59 on the list of top 100 rising seniors

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=26646

Please dox, refute all this material.....

[jcmanson]

Yes Monceaux was a major recruit before his ACL tear, but it wasn't until after that LU got on the radar. By then he had fallen off of everyone's list.

[paradox]

Dox - Before Jeremys ACL tear he had some pretty major interest ( ive got multiple sites confirming offers from Auburn, GT, and NC State), a lot bigger than Russ had, so your wrong....

The guy broke the alabama high school scoring record and avg. over 40 pts a game - http://www.ncsaa.org/stat_record_board. ... Basketball

http://www.rockchalk.com/recruiting/mbb ... jeremy.sht

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basket ... rs_spring/

#59 on the list of top 100 rising seniors

http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?cid=26646

Please dox, refute all this material.....

Basically, you're telling me that he WAS highly regarded at some point, prior to tearing his ACL.

Hank was a master propagandist and spun the thing as if we were getting a gaurd that was highly recruited by the bigger programs in the current rather than past tense.

There are thousands of prospects every year who undergo the evaluation process and enjoy high ratings early on --- but drop off considerably in the final analysis. Many of them end up in D2 or in the NAIA -- which is exactly where Monceux should have ended up.


Gaurds like Antonio Burks and Marcus White had the talent but lacked the academics. Moncuex had the grades but lacked the ability.


Seth Curry is actually surging and is in the process of getting higher ratings by the day. He is the direct opposite of a Jeremy Moncuex in this sense, who sparked early interest only. And with no academic baggage, Curry counters Burks and White in that department.

Sounds to me like Curry is going to be here and he's going to be the real deal.

[LUconn]

Basically, you're telling me that he WAS highly regarded at some point, prior to tearing his ACL.

Hank was a master propagandist and spun the thing as if we were getting a gaurd that was highly recruited by the bigger programs in the current rather than past tense.

Jeremy was a Dunton recruit, no? He missed the game winning basket against Radford in the semi finals his freshman year. Which was the year we finished 2nd in the conference, Dunton's 1st year back.

[jcmanson]

His first year, was Dunton's first back, but I'm not sure who recruited him.

[LUconn]

Hankinson got fired immediately after the season was over. If he had signed anybody, we surely would have let them back out of their LOI. 95% chance he was Dunton's. Which is another reason we would have come on late in that recruiting process.

[prototype]

Rocketfan is right. I'm not dogging the recruiting class. I'm excited to see players coming here that are getting national attention. My point is - i don't count my chickens before their hatched.

The only thing I will say is that McMasters was already being recruited by Dunton and at the time was not considered a top of the line prospect - more of a project and I don't see anything lately that will prove me wrong on that - He plays against guys like this:



And he likes to shoot outside and is very lean - a lot like someone else on our roster named Baker. If he was a center - like everyone is saying - I would be more excited.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Rocketfan is right. I'm not dogging the recruiting class. I'm excited to see players coming here that are getting national attention. My point is - i don't count my chickens before their hatched.

The only thing I will say is that McMasters was already being recruited by Dunton and at the time was not considered a top of the line prospect - more of a project and I don't see anything lately that will prove me wrong on that - He plays against guys like this:



And he likes to shoot outside and is very lean - a lot like someone else on our roster named Baker. If he was a center - like everyone is saying - I would be more excited.

You cant compare him to Tyler Baker... its like comparing Soup to Smitty... Doesnt even match up, Tyler Baker is great and if he wasnt sitting to dominate everyone in the BS he would be an All American by now... Apples and Oranges my friend... Apples and Oranges...


.. You know I had to

[LUconn]

Tyler Baker can't even dominate the bones in his own foot.

[TylerBakersGonnaBGreat]

Those bones dont matter... Tyler Baker Feels no pain... hes waiting out the BS

[paradox]

His first year, was Dunton's first back, but I'm not sure who recruited him.

Moncuex: recruited by Hank; but played for RD. RD brought in late transfers: Gabe Martin & Ryan Mantlo -- if I'm not mistaken.

[paradox]

Rocketfan is right. I'm not dogging the recruiting class. I'm excited to see players coming here that are getting national attention. My point is - i don't count my chickens before their hatched.

The only thing I will say is that McMasters was already being recruited by Dunton and at the time was not considered a top of the line prospect - more of a project and I don't see anything lately that will prove me wrong on that - He plays against guys like this:



And he likes to shoot outside and is very lean - a lot like someone else on our roster named Baker. If he was a center - like everyone is saying - I would be more excited.

McMasters is a center, a shot-blocker, a rebounder, and a defensive prescence in the post. He shares nothing in common with Baker in terms of his game with the exception of his outside scoring ability. McMasters appears to be a pretty versitile post player to me.

He's played against big-time HS centers and his team recently defeated a team that has a center who is already signed by the U of Tennessee.

[SuperJon]

Please, dox, for the love of God, don't hype these incoming recruits up to the level you hyped up Teejay and the way Brew was hyped up. Both have fallen so far under what the hype said it's not even funny. Let these kids come in as freshman and not be expected to be first team all-conference as freshmen.

[Cider Jim]

McMasters is a center, a shot-blocker, a rebounder, and a defensive prescence in the post.

'Sounds like a shorter, whiter version of Ralph Sampson.

[paradox]

SJ-- --talk to da hand

[SuperJon]

I never said they were terrible. I said that with the hype that people gave them and how high the expectations of them were built up, they haven't met those expectations. Brewington definitely didn't. For what was supposed to be some great player, he never showed it for a full game. He was a good Big South player, and took over a game a couple times, but he never showed the talent that everyone says he had for a full game. In the same respect, Teejay's shown glimpses of being really good (mainly the first ten minutes of the Campbell game) but there are times when he's been really bad as well. Everyone, especially the heavy supporters of Coach Dunton, made him out to be this great, all-ACC point guard that was going to change the game and be the best PG the league had seen in a long time. I'm sorry if I'm not overly impressed with a 37% shooter who has a 1.3 assist to turnover ratio, and commits an average of four foul a game. If he could knock down the easy layups and floaters that he consistently misses and stop the fouling then I would be a believer, but he's yet to do that.

[paradox]

Brewington was out of position in our backcourt, but as a four he was unstoppable in this league.

Tee Jay has always been defined as a pass-first point gaurd. Anyone who regarded him as all-ACC or a scorer was clearly misinformed. He was primarily a back-up playmaker up in Charlottesville.

Having said that, he and Gaynor are one and two as far as playmaking ability goes. Personally, I think that Gaynor has the edge on him, overall. But I'll gladly take the #2 guy.