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LUnpretty11 wrote:PH, your BJ skills impress me.
RubberMallet wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4816607So what is new. Besides when will Barry Bond come clean?
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belcherboy wrote:I'm glad he came out and admitted to it, but most of this PED problem is really MLB's fault...when you have the "policemen" of the sport not caring, why do you expect most people not to cheat? If my boss doesn't care that I come into work 30 minutes late, it is going to be hard to not take advantage of that!What's that saying about character? Its defined by who you are when no one is around [to motivate you].
01LUGrad wrote:No shock here. I did want to mention that roids or not, 1998 was one of the best summers ever due to the HR race.I agree Grad. That is the last time I was into baseball for the entire year. Now baseball is a yawn.
ToTheLeft wrote:because accepting anything less than the best is, as Vanilla Ice would say, a felony
BJWilliams wrote:I think highly of the guy just because he is more of a man than most of you jackwagons
JK37 wrote:Who's definition are you using? I love that definition as I think it is very biblical, but we're not talking church here. In a secular world, if your competition is cheating, and the policing forces do NOTHING to stop them, why should you feel inclined to follow the rules?belcherboy wrote:I'm glad he came out and admitted to it, but most of this PED problem is really MLB's fault...when you have the "policemen" of the sport not caring, why do you expect most people not to cheat? If my boss doesn't care that I come into work 30 minutes late, it is going to be hard to not take advantage of that!What's that saying about character? Its defined by who you are when no one is around [to motivate you].
SuperJon wrote:If you think McGwire is getting into the Hall of Fame now you're frickin crazy.
belcherboy wrote:To your baseball portion, I believe the policing should be held AS HIGH (not higher).JK37 wrote:Who's definition are you using? I love that definition as I think it is very biblical, but we're not talking church here. In a secular world, if your competition is cheating, and the policing forces do NOTHING to stop them, why should you feel inclined to follow the rules?belcherboy wrote:I'm glad he came out and admitted to it, but most of this PED problem is really MLB's fault...when you have the "policemen" of the sport not caring, why do you expect most people not to cheat? If my boss doesn't care that I come into work 30 minutes late, it is going to be hard to not take advantage of that!What's that saying about character? Its defined by who you are when no one is around [to motivate you].
In a basketball game, I don't yell at the other team for pushing or grabbing my team's jersey, I yell at the refs for allowing it. That is EXACTLY what I'm doing here. The policing body of major league baseball created an unfair environment by looking the other way at PED's. Now that these guys are coming out admitting to it, I think the leaders of MLB should be held to as high, if not higher, criticisms.
belcherboy wrote:no way.. you talk to the old players, the guys who played 1-20 years before the steroid era...they are ticked....these guys will not make it. if they kept rose out for betting on his own team, they'll keep these guys out.SuperJon wrote:If you think McGwire is getting into the Hall of Fame now you're frickin crazy.
Call me crazy, but the guy is MOST definitely HOF bound.
Baseball isn't going to keep guys like Clemens, Bonds, Arod, and several other admitted PED users out of the HOF. Maybe McGwire isn't good enough to make it in, but I'd bet everything I have that the players will eventually vote him in. He and Sosa singlehandidly saved baseball in the late 90's after the debacle of the 1994 strike. They ushered in a stream of revenue that may NEVER be seen again in baseball (ticket sales, player salaries, etc.) I think McGwire did enough to qualify, but his steroid use may keep him out for a while, but IMO I'd bet everything on him eventually getting a plaque in Cooperstown.
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RubberMallet wrote:belcherboy wrote:no way.. you talk to the old players, the guys who played 1-20 years before the steroid era...they are ticked....these guys will not make it. if they kept rose out for betting on his own team, they'll keep these guys out.SuperJon wrote:If you think McGwire is getting into the Hall of Fame now you're frickin crazy.
Call me crazy, but the guy is MOST definitely HOF bound.
Baseball isn't going to keep guys like Clemens, Bonds, Arod, and several other admitted PED users out of the HOF. Maybe McGwire isn't good enough to make it in, but I'd bet everything I have that the players will eventually vote him in. He and Sosa singlehandidly saved baseball in the late 90's after the debacle of the 1994 strike. They ushered in a stream of revenue that may NEVER be seen again in baseball (ticket sales, player salaries, etc.) I think McGwire did enough to qualify, but his steroid use may keep him out for a while, but IMO I'd bet everything on him eventually getting a plaque in Cooperstown.
ToTheLeft wrote:because accepting anything less than the best is, as Vanilla Ice would say, a felony
BJWilliams wrote:I think highly of the guy just because he is more of a man than most of you jackwagons
kevinrmcguire wrote:I haven't checked in on this forum in a long time, and when I finally get back to it I see this thread and thought somebody was calling me out!Well played, my man. Well played.
On behalf of McGuire's everywhere, Mr. Mark McGwire does not represent us or stand for what we believe in!
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