[ToTheLeft]

sore loser. i think that's a good term to define you as. and i suppose dwight howard never commits a foul too?

I'm a passionate fan, not a sore loser.

And Dwight does foul, when did I ever imply that he didn't? I get mad at him for some of the stupid fouls he commits (like one of the fouls he committed tonight on Z)

[ToTheLeft]

That's a stupid wording for a foul. I just assumed it was the same as college and soccer (whether you say it's the same sport or not, it's the same concept).

It's supposed to be more like the hockey penalty shot rule, where you can't come from behind and grab/trip someone on their way to an easy basket.

[flamesbball84]

and if you expect the refs to call every foul by the book, then nba games would take 5 hours because they'd have to blow the whistle every few seconds to coul a foul or a violation and you'd have players like cheikh samb getting major minutes.

[ToTheLeft]

and if you expect the refs to call every foul by the book, then nba games would take 5 hours because they'd have to blow the whistle every few seconds to coul a foul or a violation and you'd have players like cheikh samb getting major minutes.

It's one thing to ignore hand checks and some body contact, but this is one of those cut and dry fouls, man. Your logic is terrible, by the way.

[SuperJon]

Whether you're a sore loser or passionate fan, when you come on here using names to make fun of the best player in the league, you look like you're whining. That's just the idea it gives off.

[ToTheLeft]

Whether you're a sore loser or passionate fan, when you come on here using names to make fun of the best player in the league, you look like you're whining. That's just the idea it gives off.

It should be obvious over the time I've been here that I don't really care how I'm viewed for my thoughts during and after games... and I can call LeFraud whatever I want to, thanks.

The Magic could have won the game if Rafer and Rashard hadn't played like crap, and I know and will admit it's not all on the refs, but the refs are just the topic that shuk so eloquently tried to make a point on that I am responding to.

[flamesbball84]

only sore losers blame the refs and just two players on a team that played 7 players for 15 or more minutes for a loss. why did you lose the game? no defense. 112 points is why you lost the game, not rafer's lack of shooting ability. Cleveland shot 50% from three (9-18) and 50% overall (38-76). Take away all the free throw and Cleveland wins by 11. I guess it's the refs, rafer's, and rashard's fault the whole team played porous defense last night. maybe you should call them up or write them or something to let them know that in game 6 they each need to be able to guard all five players on the floor when they are in the game since they are the only ones to blame for the loss. it's the team's fault. when every single player who attempted four or more shots shoots 50% or better from the field (except lebron, but he was 11-24 for 45..8%), it's the team's fault because it obviously shows everyone wasn't getting the job done on defense.

"The Magic could have won the game if Rafer and Rashard hadn't played like crap."
So what? it doesn't matter. Cleveland could have won game 1 if Mo Williams and the bench hadn't played like crap. Cleveland could have won game 3 if mo williams, the bench, and the starting post players hadn't played like crap. Cleveland could have won game 4 if Mo Williams and the bench hadn't played like crap. But guess what? It doesn't matter. The Cavs lost and the Magic and that's all that matters.

[ToTheLeft]

only sore losers blame the refs and just two players on a team that played 7 players for 15 or more minutes for a loss. why did you lose the game? no defense. 112 points is why you lost the game, not rafer's lack of shooting ability. Cleveland shot 50% from three (9-18) and 50% overall (38-76). Take away all the free throw and Cleveland wins by 11. I guess it's the refs, rafer's, and rashard's fault the whole team played porous defense last night. maybe you should call them up or write them or something to let them know that in game 6 they each need to be able to guard all five players on the floor when they are in the game since they are the only ones to blame for the loss. it's the team's fault. when every single player who attempted four or more shots shoots 50% or better from the field (except lebron, but he was 11-24 for 45..8%), it's the team's fault because it obviously shows everyone wasn't getting the job done on defense.

"The Magic could have won the game if Rafer and Rashard hadn't played like crap."
So what? it doesn't matter. Cleveland could have won game 1 if Mo Williams and the bench hadn't played like crap. Cleveland could have won game 3 if mo williams, the bench, and the starting post players hadn't played like crap. Cleveland could have won game 4 if Mo Williams and the bench hadn't played like crap. But guess what? It doesn't matter. The Cavs lost and the Magic and that's all that matters.

You win?

You get brownie points?

I don't know what we did wrong on defense that we didn't do in the other two games... I was trying to figure it out and I just couldn't see it. But if we hit a reasonable amount of free throws and didn't waste possessions with Rafer's terrible shots, we would have been in the game.

But I am not going to debate basketball with someone who really doesn't know basketball, and thinks that a box score and stupid "per 48" numbers are going to tell him what he needs to know. Hollinger from ESPN is a wizard with per 48 numbers, and he picked Cavs in 5. So much for that.

[flamesbball84]

Leaving players open at the 3 point line and fouling is bad defense. If you didnt see that then you are delusional.

Also, to debate you actually have to refute other person's statements and make your own arguments. You have yet to refute any claim I have made, except to say "I don't know" which is always a GREAT way to make a point.

[ToTheLeft]

Leaving players open at the 3 point line and fouling is bad defense. If you didnt see that then you are delusional.

Also, to debate you actually have to refute other person's statements and make your own arguments. You have yet to refute any claim I have made, except to say "I don't know" which is always a GREAT way to make a point.

Like I said, you win?

I have refuted your points but you must just ignore them. Which makes "debating" with you pointless. When the Magic win Game 6 and head to the Finals, I will be happy because I team won, and you'll still be sitting around looking at per 48 stats wondering what happened.

But go bake yourself some cookies. I'm fresh out, or I'd give ya one.

[flamesbball84]

Leaving players open at the 3 point line and fouling is bad defense. If you didnt see that then you are delusional.

Also, to debate you actually have to refute other person's statements and make your own arguments. You have yet to refute any claim I have made, except to say "I don't know" which is always a GREAT way to make a point.

Like I said, you win?

I have refuted your points but you must just ignore them. Which makes "debating" with you pointless. When the Magic win Game 6 and head to the Finals, I will be happy because I team won, and you'll still be sitting around looking at per 48 stats wondering what happened.

But go bake yourself some cookies. I'm fresh out, or I'd give ya one.

I won't be wondering about anything. I'll be glad because I like watching the Magic better than the Cavs although Leron puts ona good show too.

[flamesbball84]

Bynum's second foul was a thug foul, not even making any attempt whatsoever at going for the ball. This isn't football

[scuzdriver]

Nuggets had a great year! Too bad they decided not to show up the last couple games. It was a fun run for us Denver people.

[thepostman]

Whether you're a sore loser or passionate fan, when you come on here using names to make fun of the best player in the league, you look like you're whining. That's just the idea it gives off.

It should be obvious over the time I've been here that I don't really care how I'm viewed for my thoughts during and after games... and I can call LeFraud whatever I want to, thanks.

The Magic could have won the game if Rafer and Rashard hadn't played like crap, and I know and will admit it's not all on the refs, but the refs are just the topic that shuk so eloquently tried to make a point on that I am responding to.

the refs didn't cost them this game...that pathetic 1st quarter did...

I pray they should up from start to finish tonight...I want to party like its 1995...minus nick anderson missing free throws

[flames1971]

Leaving players open at the 3 point line and fouling is bad defense. If you didnt see that then you are delusional.

Also, to debate you actually have to refute other person's statements and make your own arguments. You have yet to refute any claim I have made, except to say "I don't know" which is always a GREAT way to make a point.

Like I said, you win?

I have refuted your points but you must just ignore them. Which makes "debating" with you pointless. When the Magic win Game 6 and head to the Finals, I will be happy because I team won, and you'll still be sitting around looking at per 48 stats wondering what happened.

But go bake yourself some cookies. I'm fresh out, or I'd give ya one.

TTL, I'm so glad that I have you to do the debating. No way I could defend the Magic like that. Oh, and by the way, I have some cookies here at home. Want some?

[Th3rd]

so looks like the dream of lakers cavs could end tonight, so does that mean that lebron automatically loses the debate against kobe, or are lebron lovers going to come up with someway to still say he is better then kobe even though he coasted through 2 rounds of the playoffs with a 'horrible team' and kobe's 'great' team did not coast. lebron may end up being great, but until he has at least 1 ring on his finger he can not be called the best.

[ToTheLeft]

Whether you're a sore loser or passionate fan, when you come on here using names to make fun of the best player in the league, you look like you're whining. That's just the idea it gives off.

It should be obvious over the time I've been here that I don't really care how I'm viewed for my thoughts during and after games... and I can call LeFraud whatever I want to, thanks.

The Magic could have won the game if Rafer and Rashard hadn't played like crap, and I know and will admit it's not all on the refs, but the refs are just the topic that shuk so eloquently tried to make a point on that I am responding to.

the refs didn't cost them this game...that pathetic 1st quarter did...

I pray they should up from start to finish tonight...I want to party like its 1995...minus nick anderson missing free throws

Like I said, the refs frustrated me, but Rafer and Rashard lost us the game (Rafer was the main reason for the crappy first, and the good shooting by the Cavs)

[flamesbball84]

Cleveland's defense is embarrassing in this game. Rafer was open for three, and the best Mo Williams could do was take two steps and look at him. Ever heard of hustling over to guard your assignment and get a handup to contest the shooter?

However, it's not quite as embarrassing as Craig Sager's attire.

[thepostman]

cleveland showed no heart last night...Orlando didn't play the best game ever...but they out hustled Cleveland the whole game and dwight had the game of his life....i have been waiting a long, painful 14 years for this....I am happy