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By LUconn
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#93520
It's funny. Everybody is all over Simpson's jock and, who knows, he may be the best player in the league. But WR is one of the few positions where you're completely dependant on one other player to come through for you. In this case that other player is a first year starter having to fill the shoes of one of the best the Big South has seen in a long time. good luck :twist
By SuperJon
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#93522
Simpson is by far the best in the league but you're right, unless they have someone that can get him the ball, how good he is doesn't really matter.
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By PAmedic
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#93523
not too much to disagree with there, other than DB's .

I think we have a candidate at DB who can play with any of those guys.
By SuperJon
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#93526
I think once the post season awards come out, you'll see Greiser on there.

Remember, there's also a certain LB that's not on there that will definitely be all-conference at the end of the year (and probably wasn't eligible for preseason, and rightly so).
By Libertine
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#93529
Man, Pope got screwed! He's a much better long-snapper than that McCarthy hump! Makes me so mad! :evil:


(No, not really. It's long-snapping. If one guy gets the job done every time and so does the other guy, how do you know which one's really better? I just had to give Pope some love though. Hopefully, we don't hear his name mentioned again until the post-season.)
By Chris Lang
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#93531
Redd was eligible and on the ballot.

Since I don't have a blog on newsadvance.com ( :roll: ) ... I'll post my picks here:

Quarterback
2-Brock Smith, Liberty

Running back
2-Rashad Jennings, Liberty
1-Mike Tolbert, Coastal Carolina

Wide receiver
3-Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina
2-Duvaughn Flagler, Gardner-Webb
1-Brandon Turner, Liberty

Tight end
2-Clayton Coffman, Charleston Southern
1-Chris Luck, Liberty

Offensive line
5-DeMario Deese, Gardner-Webb
4-Eddie Pinigis, Liberty
3-Robert Brown, VMI
2-Stephen Sene, Liberty
1-Britt Leggett, Coastal Carolina

Defensive line
4-Adrain Gray, Coastal Carolina
3-Brian Johnston, Gardner-Webb
2-Steve Ackley, Liberty
1-Dennis Justiniani, Charleston Southern

Linebacker
4-Jada Ross, Charleston Southern
3-Stevie Ray Lloyd, Liberty
2-Mario E. Brown, Gardner-Webb
1-Mike Pavelko, Gardner-Webb

Defensive back
4-Ryan Greiser, Liberty
3-Okeba Rollinson, Charleston Southern
2-Daniel Cooke, Gardner-Webb
1-Marcus Brown, VMI

Kicker
2-Barrett Way, VMI
1-Nick Ellis, Charleston Southern

Punter
2-Michael Hanna, Gardner-Webb (duh)

Long snapper
2-David McCarthy, Gardner-Webb
1-Dan Pope, Liberty

Return specialist
2-Wynton Jackson, Liberty
1-C.J. Hirschman, Charleston Southern

Preseason offensive player of the year
2-Rashad Jennings, Liberty
1-Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina

Preseason defensive player of the year
2-Jada Ross, Charleston Southern
1-Stevie Ray Lloyd, Liberty

Predicted order of finish
1. Liberty
2. Gardner-Webb
3. Coastal Carolina
4. Charleston Southern
5. VMI
By SuperJon
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#93532
I love Brock getting some love.

I'll ask you the same thing I asked Ian: Was Zach Terrell on the ballot and if so, what position?
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By bozlady
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#93533
What happened to Zach Terrell?
By SuperJon
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#93535
My thinking is Zach either wasn't listed, or was listed as a WR. He's playing that A-back now so he's not a full time receiver and not a full time RB.
By Chris Lang
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#93543
He was listed at running back. Tough to go 1-2 with Jennings and Zach, because if Rashad gets the number of carries I think he'll get, Zach's numbers won't be as nice as Tolbert's. At least that's my thinking.
By Chris Lang
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#93544
SuperJon wrote:I love Brock getting some love.
He'll win it by default. The only other QB listed was Doolittle from Gardner-Webb, and he only played part time last year.
By SuperJon
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#93545
The Zach stuff makes sense.


And way to burst my bubble on Brock.
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By jcmanson
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#93580
Would definitely be nice to have the all conference qb and rb.

I'm ready for some football.

Vince Redd will be all conference.
By Libertine
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#93608
Chris Lang wrote:
SuperJon wrote:I love Brock getting some love.
He'll win it by default. The only other QB listed was Doolittle from Gardner-Webb, and he only played part time last year.
No Devin Campbell? :shock:
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By LU'sbestmanager
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#93612
Chris Lang wrote:3-Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina
2-Duvaughn Flagler, Gardner-Webb
1-Brandon Turner, Liberty
no jackson!?! why not?
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By Sly Fox
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#93613
Looking at these nominations reminds me how stacked with quality LBs the league is right now.
By Chris Lang
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#93631
LU'sbestmanager wrote:
Chris Lang wrote:3-Jerome Simpson, Coastal Carolina
2-Duvaughn Flagler, Gardner-Webb
1-Brandon Turner, Liberty
no jackson!?! why not?
Drops too many passes. Simpson and Flagler are no-brainers. Turner is the more dependable receiver between he and Jackson.
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By PAmedic
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#93670
thats why I'm thrilled to see another guy coming in...

I know I've been whining about this since last year but we have (hopefully, HAD) some real issues at wideout
By madmat
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#93684
I've got to take this opportunity to make this observation about Zach Terrell.
2006
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
TERRELL, Zach 11 144 721 48 673 4.7 13 26 61.2

PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G
TERRELL, Zach 11 133.10 13-21-0 61.9 178 0 45 16.2

RECEIVING GP No. Yds Avg TD Long Avg/G
TERRELL, Zach 11 4 20 5.0 0 6 1.8
LUCK, Chris 11 7 73 10.4 0 14 6.6

SCORING TD FGs Kick Rush Rcv Pass DXP Saf Points
TERRELL, Zach 13 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0-0 0 0 78
JENNINGS, Rashad 10 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0-0 0 0 60


My questions:
A. Why does this guy not figure into preseason recognition more?
B. How can we utilize his talent better than just being the 12th man/Aback, or Rashad's backup?

In terms of offensive productivity, he is at the top of my list. He didn't carry the load as much during the DII opponents where Rashad put up gaudy numbers, but went in when Rashad was hurt against the tougher competition. I know that our blocking scheme requires a tight end most of the time, but it is tough to see one of our best weapons/aka 2005 freshman of the year, standing on the sideline or unrecognized.
By SuperJon
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#93686
Dude, are you posting from the beach?
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By PAmedic
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#93688
figured if I was getting blurry eyed, others were too.

somebody explain the last line(s) to me ? (SCORING)

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RUSHING       GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G 
TERRELL, Zach 11 144 721   48  673 4.7 13  26  61.2 

PASSING       GP Effic  Cmp-Att-Int Pct  Yds TD Lng Avg/G 
TERRELL, Zach 11 133.10 13-21-0     61.9 178 0  45  16.2 

RECEIVING     GP No. Yds Avg  TD Long Avg/G 
TERRELL, Zach 11 4   20  5.0  0   6    1.8 
LUCK, Chris   11 7   73  10.4 0   14   6.6 

SCORING          TD FGs Kick Rush Rcv Pass DXP Saf Points 
TERRELL,  Zach   13 0-0 0-0  0-0   0  0-0   0   0    78 
JENNINGS, Rashad 10 0-0 0-0  0-0   0  0-0   0   0    60 
By SuperJon
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#93690
It just says who scored more TDs.


I agree completely that Zach needs to be on the field. Rashad has all the potential in the world to be an elite back, but he has to hit the hole hard and not dance. Zach on the other hand, is already on his way to being an elite back.
By madmat
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#93692
Thanks medic, I lined it up in my reply box, but it got screwed up in the installment. Admitted weakness in this area.
The scoring jumped out at me as the greatest reason to get him on the field. I also had been watching film from Wake, GW, and VMI, and saw some incredible athleticism from Zach.

SJ, got home last night form Chicken Beach, (myrtle). 12 hrs. in the car. My sister and brother in law is opening a deli market on King Ave (MZ's) and I painted a mural on one of their walls. Say hi to Mike for me in Philosophy class. All weekend long, he questioned whether something actually existed or not. Whew! A little philosophy is a dangerous thing.
By SuperJon
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#93693
I've been doing the same thing, even started an argument on Coastal's board. It's scary
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