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By Purple Haize
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Cider Jim wrote: November 20th, 2024, 1:42 pm My own Cal-Berkeley educated brother who is a life long Democrat likes to brag that President Trump only received 28% of the vote from registered voters (millions of registered voters chose NOT to vote). My Berkeley brother probably got that stat from CNN or MSNBC, so I don't even know if it is accurate or not.
That means Harris got fewer
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By stokesjokes
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flamehunter wrote: November 20th, 2024, 11:46 am What an absurd and sad post. Praying that Postman can get his head cleared of the nonsense and deception he's been fed and believed.
Don't be so sure that he's the one who's been deceived. I mostly agree with Postman and his brother's thoughts here, and I'm sure you think I'm too quick to bite on every negative portrayal of Donald Trump, but ask yourself this: why are you so quick to accept the explanations of those who are motivated to dismiss any concerns about him?

I would ask anyone reading this to engage in this thought experiment: what if the following things were true:

What if it was true that Donald raped Ivana as she claimed under oath in their divorce proceedings?

What if it was true that Donald called our servicemen "suckers and losers" as his own chief of staff, John Kelly, claimed?

What if there really was racist sentiment behind public statements such as that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country?"

What if Donald really did rape E. Jean Carroll with his fingers, as a jury found to be true?

What if Donald really did use illegal means to cover up the hush money payments to the porn star he cheated on his wife with, as a jury found him to have done?

What if there really was no widespread fraud in 2020, as Trump's own justice department and attorney general strongly claim, and Trump tried to use illegal means to overturn an election?


I'm not here to go back and forth on the merits of these claims, I know how his supporters will dismiss these things and I have my own answers, but I know that won't go anywhere. I'm just asking for some intellectual humility to consider what the implications of your support would be if these things were true.
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By paradox
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Hypotheticals don’t prove much. And to be fair, you would have to consider hypotheticals from the opposition as well, such as claims made by RFK and Tulsi on Dem corruption
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By jmclaughlin
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stokesjokes wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:41 pm
flamehunter wrote: November 20th, 2024, 11:46 am What an absurd and sad post. Praying that Postman can get his head cleared of the nonsense and deception he's been fed and believed.
Don't be so sure that he's the one who's been deceived. I mostly agree with Postman and his brother's thoughts here, and I'm sure you think I'm too quick to bite on every negative portrayal of Donald Trump, but ask yourself this: why are you so quick to accept the explanations of those who are motivated to dismiss any concerns about him?

I would ask anyone reading this to engage in this thought experiment: what if the following things were true:

What if it was true that Donald raped Ivana as she claimed under oath in their divorce proceedings?

What if it was true that Donald called our servicemen "suckers and losers" as his own chief of staff, John Kelly, claimed?

What if there really was racist sentiment behind public statements such as that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country?"

What if Donald really did rape E. Jean Carroll with his fingers, as a jury found to be true?

What if Donald really did use illegal means to cover up the hush money payments to the porn star he cheated on his wife with, as a jury found him to have done?

What if there really was no widespread fraud in 2020, as Trump's own justice department and attorney general strongly claim, and Trump tried to use illegal means to overturn an election?


I'm not here to go back and forth on the merits of these claims, I know how his supporters will dismiss these things and I have my own answers, but I know that won't go anywhere. I'm just asking for some intellectual humility to consider what the implications of your support would be if these things were true.
Yes...maybe...yes

Trump is a terrible statesman and we should be embarrassed that his Presidency is the barometer of our country. Morally abysmal

The problem is that Trump doesn't exist in a vacuum. The other choices have been Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Who can take the Moral high ground in those choices?

It is also a fact that legacy media has relentlessly thrown every baseless claim they can at Trump. For what reason? Is it because they want to root out clear corruption or is it to hide the complicit corruption in the MSM / Democratic Party apparatus? To play in the hypotheticals...what if none of those things are true. Several you listed are blatantly false and with a simple dive into actual footage (exe. poisoning the blood of our country is completely out of context, Eugene Carrol is nuts, nothing curious about 2020 election?). Also, you forgot that he was a Russian spy, that he made up the Hunter Biden laptop story, that Chicago MAGA mob beat up poor ole' Jussie, the "very fine people on both sides" - KKK, O and that insurrection that he led by telling people to peacefully protest.

Too many wolf cries. The only ones buying their crap are those who haven't realized that the Media hates you and thinks you are too dumb to realize it.
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By jmclaughlin
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Suckers and Losers hoax:

Here’s the reality: A White House email from a U.S. Marine Corps official proves a “bad weather call” was the reason for President Trump’s canceled visit to Aisne-Marne American cemetery in 2018; further evidence refuting Biden’s claim includes U.S. Navy records obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request — and even John Bolton's book.

Unequivocal denials came from virtually every official on the trip:

Zach Fuentes, former deputy to Chief of Staff Gen. John Kelly: “I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather. Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?” (Breitbart, 9/7/20)

John Bolton, former National Security Advisor: “I didn't hear either of those comments or anything even resembling them. I was there at the point in time that morning when it was decided that he would not go Aisne-Marne cemetery. He decided not to do it because of John Kelly's recommendation. It was entirely a weather-related decision, and I thought the proper thing to do.” (Fox News, 9/4/20)

Sarah Huckabee Sanders, former White House press secretary: “The Atlantic story on @realDonaldTrump is total BS. I was actually there and one of the people part of the discussion - this never happened … I am disgusted by this false attack.” (X, 9/3/20)

Hogan Gidley, former White House deputy press secretary: “These are disgusting, grotesque, reprehensible lies. I was there in Paris and the President never said those things … These weak, pathetic, cowardly background ‘sources’ do not have the courage or decency to put their names to these false accusations because they know how completely ludicrous they are. It's sickening that they would hide in the shadows to knowingly try and hurt the morale of our great military simply for an attack on a political opponent.” (X, 9/3/20)

Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff for communications: “I was with POTUS in France, with Sarah, and have been at his side throughout it all. Complete lies by ‘anonymous sources’ that were ‘dropped’ just as he begins to campaign (and surge). A disgraceful attempt to smear POTUS, 60 days before the Presidential Election! Disgusting!!” (X, 9/3/20)

Jordan Karem, former personal aide to President Trump: “This is not even close to being factually accurate. Plain and simple, it just never happened.” (X, 9/3/20)

Johnny DeStefano, former counselor to President Trump: “I was on this trip. The Atlantic bit is not true. Period.” (X, 9/4/20)

Stephen Miller, former senior advisor to President Trump: “[A] despicable lie ... The president deeply wanted to attend the memorial event in question and was deeply displeased by the bad weather call." (Washington Examiner, 9/3/20)

Derek Lyons, former staff secretary and counselor to President Trump: “I was with the President the morning after the scheduled visit. He was extremely disappointed that arrangements could not be made to get him to the site, and that the trip had been cancelled.” (X, 9/4/20)

Dan Walsh, former White House deputy chief of staff: “I can attest to the fact that there was a bad weather call in France, and that the helicopters were unable to safely make the flight.” (White House Press Briefing, 9/4/20)

First Lady Melania Trump: “@TheAtlantic story is not true. It has become a very dangerous time when anonymous sources are believed above all else, & no one knows their motivation. This is not journalism - It is activism. And it is a disservice to the people of our great nation.” (X, 9/4/20)

Jamie McCourt, former U.S. Ambassador to France and Monaco: “In my presence, POTUS has NEVER denigrated any member of the U.S. military or anyone in service to our country. And he certainly did not that day, either. Let me add, he was devastated to not be able to go to the cemetery at Belleau Wood. In fact, the next day, he attended and spoke at the ceremony in Suresnes in the pouring rain.” (Breitbart, 9/7/20)

Mick Mulvaney, former acting White House chief of staff: “These claims are simply outrageous. I never heard the President disparage our war dead or wounded. In fact, the exact opposite is true. I was with him at the 75th Anniversary of the D-Day invasion in Normandy. As we flew over the beaches by helicopter he was outwardly in awe of the accomplishments of the Allied Forces, and the sacrifices they paid.” (X, 9/4/20)

Maj. Gen. Bill Maz, secretary of the American Battle Monuments Commission: “I was the host of the event discussed by the false and despicable article published in The Atlantic magazine on 3 September … when the President’s visit was appropriately canceled due to weather, I received word also that he was upset he would not be able to make the wreath-laying visit…” (X, 9/8/20)

Tony Ornato, former deputy White House chief of staff, denied the report. (X, 9/3/20)
By paradox
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To be fair to Stokes, there are a couple on that list that have the potential to be valid. However, what he and the Postmeister seem to fumble on, involves the reasons why conservatives vote as they do. It’s got more to do with preserving founding principles and the intentions of the founders rather than personal purity or charisma. Furthermore, a leader can be both good and bad. Flawed and yet impactful. JFK would be a credible example. Biblical kings are a decent character study in this as well. It’s humanity. Our shared nature is as such. And each and every one of us is a tragic mix of both good and bad. That’s why we need a redeemer.
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By Purple Haize
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stokesjokes wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:41 pm
flamehunter wrote: November 20th, 2024, 11:46 am What an absurd and sad post. Praying that Postman can get his head cleared of the nonsense and deception he's been fed and believed.
Don't be so sure that he's the one who's been deceived. I mostly agree with Postman and his brother's thoughts here, and I'm sure you think I'm too quick to bite on every negative portrayal of Donald Trump, but ask yourself this: why are you so quick to accept the explanations of those who are motivated to dismiss any concerns about him?

I would ask anyone reading this to engage in this thought experiment: what if the following things were true:

What if it was true that Donald raped Ivana as she claimed under oath in their divorce proceedings?

What if it was true that Donald called our servicemen "suckers and losers" as his own chief of staff, John Kelly, claimed?

What if there really was racist sentiment behind public statements such as that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country?"

What if Donald really did rape E. Jean Carroll with his fingers, as a jury found to be true?

What if Donald really did use illegal means to cover up the hush money payments to the porn star he cheated on his wife with, as a jury found him to have done?

What if there really was no widespread fraud in 2020, as Trump's own justice department and attorney general strongly claim, and Trump tried to use illegal means to overturn an election?


I'm not here to go back and forth on the merits of these claims, I know how his supporters will dismiss these things and I have my own answers, but I know that won't go anywhere. I'm just asking for some intellectual humility to consider what the implications of your support would be if these things were true.
But your hypotheticals have been proven to not be possible

Ivana -
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/ ... ast-120721

Suckers and losers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... ntic-nope/

E Jean Carrol isn’t remotely credible and the verdict with most likely get thrown out

Perhaps the intellectual humility you call for should be all encompassing
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By Purple Haize
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ATrain wrote: November 21st, 2024, 6:11 pm All I'm gonna say is, TDS is real. The D can stand for derangement or devotion. Both are equally dangerous.
You are correct. The issue is those with Derangement think everyone who voted for Trump is Devoted
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By ATrain
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JK37 wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 8:17 am Why Gaetz in the first place. The strategy is…puzzling. :dontgetit
Probably to get him out of the House. He was one of the main troublemakers, along with Bob Good. Good got ejected in the primary, thankfully.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 8:17 am Why Gaetz in the first place. The strategy is…puzzling. :dontgetit
Gaetz resigns from Congress where no one likes him. Trump doing the GOP members a favor
His resignation causes the ethics investigation to go away
Trump looks loyal to a guy who has always been a staunch supporter
Democrats focus much of their energy and Capital to derail the pick
If he gets confirmed it’s a plus for what Trump has in mind for the Department
He doesn’t get confirmed (or noe withdraws) Democrats can’t fight the next pick as hard so they’ll be a lock.
Gaetz is now free from investigation and scrutiny and lands a job as a talking head (what he’s always wanted) probably at Newsmax where he can tout his bona fides and claim victim status due to the opposition to his nomination

It’s a win / win situation for everyone
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By jmclaughlin
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Gaetz can and probably will resend his resignation and serve in the 119th Congress. He can do so with a simple declaration.
Making this whole situation even more puzzling.
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By Purple Haize
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jmclaughlin wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 1:08 pm Gaetz can and probably will resend his resignation and serve in the 119th Congress. He can do so with a simple declaration.
Making this whole situation even more puzzling.
I’m not sure he will. He’s made a clean break and can pursue something he really wants. I know for a fact he and Newsmax have talked about a show
However, it would also be totally on brand for him to try and come back to Congress.
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By jmclaughlin
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Purple Haize wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 1:56 pm
jmclaughlin wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 1:08 pm Gaetz can and probably will resend his resignation and serve in the 119th Congress. He can do so with a simple declaration.
Making this whole situation even more puzzling.
I’m not sure he will. He’s made a clean break and can pursue something he really wants. I know for a fact he and Newsmax have talked about a show
However, it would also be totally on brand for him to try and come back to Congress.
I stand corrected. Just read a report that he has declared. He is done.
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By Purple Haize
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jmclaughlin wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 2:26 pm
Purple Haize wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 1:56 pm
jmclaughlin wrote: November 22nd, 2024, 1:08 pm Gaetz can and probably will resend his resignation and serve in the 119th Congress. He can do so with a simple declaration.
Making this whole situation even more puzzling.
I’m not sure he will. He’s made a clean break and can pursue something he really wants. I know for a fact he and Newsmax have talked about a show
However, it would also be totally on brand for him to try and come back to Congress.
I stand corrected. Just read a report that he has declared. He is done.
No need to stand. You may remain seated :D
By paradox
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Dems had no economic plan. No coherent message. Pure incompetence. All they cared about was smearing a guy by claiming he’d end democracy & outlaw abortion.
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By RubberMallet
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stokesjokes wrote: November 21st, 2024, 12:41 pm
flamehunter wrote: November 20th, 2024, 11:46 am What an absurd and sad post. Praying that Postman can get his head cleared of the nonsense and deception he's been fed and believed.
Don't be so sure that he's the one who's been deceived. I mostly agree with Postman and his brother's thoughts here, and I'm sure you think I'm too quick to bite on every negative portrayal of Donald Trump, but ask yourself this: why are you so quick to accept the explanations of those who are motivated to dismiss any concerns about him?

I would ask anyone reading this to engage in this thought experiment: what if the following things were true:

What if it was true that Donald raped Ivana as she claimed under oath in their divorce proceedings?

What if it was true that Donald called our servicemen "suckers and losers" as his own chief of staff, John Kelly, claimed?

What if there really was racist sentiment behind public statements such as that immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country?"

What if Donald really did rape E. Jean Carroll with his fingers, as a jury found to be true?

What if Donald really did use illegal means to cover up the hush money payments to the porn star he cheated on his wife with, as a jury found him to have done?

What if there really was no widespread fraud in 2020, as Trump's own justice department and attorney general strongly claim, and Trump tried to use illegal means to overturn an election?


I'm not here to go back and forth on the merits of these claims, I know how his supporters will dismiss these things and I have my own answers, but I know that won't go anywhere. I'm just asking for some intellectual humility to consider what the implications of your support would be if these things were true.
all of that might of mattered if Kamala harris wasn't a cork on the fork retard.
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By RubberMallet
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also that was 5000 characters of "WHEW WHEW I AM IN A INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIP I HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE WHEW WHEW WHEW" then proceeds to not be unique or invoke much perspective at all.
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In a press conference today, Trump announced that we're going to be renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, which in and of itself is freaking hilarious. Apparently, he's also very serious about pursuing Greenland.
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By TH Spangler
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Humble_Opinion wrote: January 7th, 2025, 1:22 pm In a press conference today, Trump announced that we're going to be renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, which in and of itself is freaking hilarious. Apparently, he's also very serious about pursuing Greenland.
Purchasing Greenland like we've done other territories in the past would be fantastic.
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