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#663696
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:27 pm
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 2:55 pm One thing we'll never know is if App State would have insisted on playing the game if they were undefeated, on a roll, and Liberty was ranked just above them in the rankings.
You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.
Of course I have. Such a game could provided a powerful rallying point within the community with proceeds of the game being donated to the rebuilding effort which I'm sure would be appreciated by those facing uninsured loses.
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#663697
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:57 pm
cruzan_flame13 wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:45 pm Isn't the ducking response from K Salt based on the fact that App State did not want to reschedule period? It doesn't seem like it was based on the terrible situation occurring in Boone or the idea of the team not just coming to the burg/neutral site. Seems like more of these responses are based on just emotions and not knowing the entire context of that situation. Then again, that's truly the norm when it comes to social media and most things in society in general. At the end of the day, we can all hope the casualties can reduce and not continue to get even worse.
How is that ducking? It seems reasonable to think about the care and safety of the athletes students etc over a football game. The first tweet was tasteless but could be rectified. The second was classless and possibly indicative of a culture no one should want.
How is not rescheduling this game going to change what occurred? Will they cancel the next home game coming up as well? Likely not. So they couldn't place this game on another open date since the storm came? No, they decided, we just don't to play you anymore this season. So what would a young twenty something year old athlete who has goals this season will think overall? Like I stated, the responses are only based on emotions and the context is misrepresented. Disasters happens, but also life has to go on. There can be understanding about casualties, but one can also think it's a bit strange that the school wouldn't even consider the 'play later' option when the team is not likely going to cancel the other few games as well because of, you know, the situation. It's not inconsiderate, on the business sides of things,that this was also a perfect opportunity for App State to not play us for biased reasons?
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By thepostman
#663701
So you'd be cool with App State running to social media if Lynchburg was experiencing record breaking, catastrophic flooding?

I know the answer but I'm wondering if you all sticking up for the players or downplaying are capable of seeing it yourselves.
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#663702
thepostman wrote: September 28th, 2024, 4:45 pm So you'd be cool with App State running to social media if Lynchburg was experiencing record breaking, catastrophic flooding?

I know the answer but I'm wondering if you all sticking up for the players or downplaying are capable of seeing it yourselves.
If App State wanted to reschedule on another open day and LU declined playing them again with a mediocre record so far. I'm sure players, and their fans would think the school was ducking. Not relating to the flooding occurring in Lynchburg. Not like LU would ignore the other conference games because of the flooding. Speaking on if the situation was the other way around. On the topic on sticking up for the players; are you implying they were mocking the situation or was only focus on the opportunity to play a game that could be reschedule because of what happened? You think they thought, "man, who cares about the damages! They should've played the game. They're just ducking!!" Or were the program was given an option to reschedule at an appropriate time season to give respect to what happened, but the school just said no to just playing us in general. We will see if they will play the next home game later during conference play. You will see that it was more than just the flooding in Boone and the issue was a perfect excuse to not just play the game in general. This is nit the first time in college history that a college town had dealt with a catastrophe and had to cancel a game at the time. Did the home teams always just nit reschedule that game at a later date and just thought it was fine to not just play the opponent at all just cause?
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#663703
Count me among those that would love to see this game played during the bye week (rather than being outright cancelled).

But, according to social media - that means I must have no regard for human life, can’t possibly have compassion for those in Boone, and am likely just a mean-spirited person.

It’s crazy how some folks love typecasting others into made-up narratives. It reminds me of the current WNBA “all CC fans are racist” narrative that some folks are trying really hard to sell.
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By thepostman
#663707
It's mean spirited to claim a team is ducking you when the community is dealing with a historic flood. If thats you and the shoe fits...

App State doesn't event know when they'll practice next and you want them to decide if they can play us on a bye week?

Again, if the shoe was on the other foot there us no doubt this message board and Twitter would be filled with LU fans upset (and rightfully so).

The CC mentioned was unexpected.

But nobody is saying people can't be disappointed the game isn't being played. It's the petty jabs coming from our players and some folks in our fanbase that rub me the wrong way.

I'm disappointed the game was cancelled but such is life. Ya know?

And yes. Non conference games have been cancelled altogether. It sucks.
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#663709
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:58 pm
paradox wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:48 pm Yeah, and that's just the worst case scenario. Either way, it's inconsequential.
It’s not inconsequential. Excusing this type of behavior as such is a bad look.
And the APP fans are now bringing up Jerry Jr and all that goes with that. We're constantly under the microscope and this feeds into other's impressions,deserved or not of who Liberty really is.
#663710
Chippy wrote: September 28th, 2024, 6:34 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:58 pm
paradox wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:48 pm Yeah, and that's just the worst case scenario. Either way, it's inconsequential.
It’s not inconsequential. Excusing this type of behavior as such is a bad look.
And the APP fans are now bringing up Jerry Jr and all that goes with that. We're constantly under the microscope and this feeds into other's impressions,deserved or not of who Liberty really is. Boone experienced catastrophic weather, logically, no other motive, cancelled the game, let it go.

Oct 8th FIU.
#663712
Chippy wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:54 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:58 pm
paradox wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:48 pm Yeah, and that's just the worst case scenario. Either way, it's inconsequential.
It’s not inconsequential. Excusing this type of behavior as such is a bad look.
Coach/President - The football team has time off. They should go there and help with the disaster relief as a show of good will and a demonstration of Christian service and love.
This is the way.
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By thepostman
#663713
Chippy wrote: September 28th, 2024, 6:34 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:58 pm
paradox wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:48 pm Yeah, and that's just the worst case scenario. Either way, it's inconsequential.
It’s not inconsequential. Excusing this type of behavior as such is a bad look.
And the APP fans are now bringing up Jerry Jr and all that goes with that. We're constantly under the microscope and this feeds into other's impressions,deserved or not of who Liberty really is.
We should be held to a higher standard than App State
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#663714
TH Spangler wrote: September 28th, 2024, 4:34 pm Purple is just not high on Salter. I noticed he let another player slide. Everyone loves #20 :lol:

Salt plays better with some smack .... both ways.

Im sure the entire team is praying for Western Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee.
I saw Salters Tweet. I thought I referenced other players but I’ll certainly call them out if I see them This is a teachable moment. One that seems to have passed several players and fans by.
There is smack talk, of which I am a fan and connoisseur, and there is being classless. Which we have here.
#663717
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:57 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:27 pm
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 2:55 pm One thing we'll never know is if App State would have insisted on playing the game if they were undefeated, on a roll, and Liberty was ranked just above them in the rankings.
You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.
Of course I have. Such a game could provided a powerful rallying point within the community with proceeds of the game being donated to the rebuilding effort which I'm sure would be appreciated by those facing uninsured loses.
Re read what you wrote. You think someone who lost everything and has no insurance will be placated or even care about a football game? You think already over extended public services could handle another 10-15k people? Where are they going to stay? Where are the y gonna eat ? They’ve cancelled classes there for the week. Next game is in doubt.
What would have been cool, but probably not practical is if LU would have stated in Hickory like originally planned then bussed up there today and tomorrow to help facilitate the clean up.
#663718
cruzan_flame13 wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:59 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:57 pm
cruzan_flame13 wrote: September 28th, 2024, 1:45 pm Isn't the ducking response from K Salt based on the fact that App State did not want to reschedule period? It doesn't seem like it was based on the terrible situation occurring in Boone or the idea of the team not just coming to the burg/neutral site. Seems like more of these responses are based on just emotions and not knowing the entire context of that situation. Then again, that's truly the norm when it comes to social media and most things in society in general. At the end of the day, we can all hope the casualties can reduce and not continue to get even worse.
How is that ducking? It seems reasonable to think about the care and safety of the athletes students etc over a football game. The first tweet was tasteless but could be rectified. The second was classless and possibly indicative of a culture no one should want.
How is not rescheduling this game going to change what occurred? Will they cancel the next home game coming up as well? Likely not. So they couldn't place this game on another open date since the storm came? No, they decided, we just don't to play you anymore this season. So what would a young twenty something year old athlete who has goals this season will think overall? Like I stated, the responses are only based on emotions and the context is misrepresented. Disasters happens, but also life has to go on. There can be understanding about casualties, but one can also think it's a bit strange that the school wouldn't even consider the 'play later' option when the team is not likely going to cancel the other few games as well because of, you know, the situation. It's not inconsiderate, on the business sides of things,that this was also a perfect opportunity for App State to not play us for biased reasons?
There next two games are away. Their game next week is in question. Whether or not this game is rescheduled should be Item #11 on the Top 10 things they and LU should be interested in
#663720
thepostman wrote: September 28th, 2024, 6:12 pm It's mean spirited to claim a team is ducking you when the community is dealing with a historic flood. If thats you and the shoe fits...

App State doesn't event know when they'll practice next and you want them to decide if they can play us on a bye week?

Again, if the shoe was on the other foot there us no doubt this message board and Twitter would be filled with LU fans upset (and rightfully so).

The CC mentioned was unexpected.

But nobody is saying people can't be disappointed the game isn't being played. It's the petty jabs coming from our players and some folks in our fanbase that rub me the wrong way.

I'm disappointed the game was cancelled but such is life. Ya know?

And yes. Non conference games have been cancelled altogether. It sucks.
Stop making sense and being reasonable. We are in agreement and that is throwing the Flamesverse all out of whack!
#663721
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 7:04 pm
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:57 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:27 pm

You obviously haven’t seen pictures out of Boone.
Of course I have. Such a game could provided a powerful rallying point within the community with proceeds of the game being donated to the rebuilding effort which I'm sure would be appreciated by those facing uninsured loses.
Re read what you wrote. You think someone who lost everything and has no insurance will be placated or even care about a football game? You think already over extended public services could handle another 10-15k people? Where are they going to stay? Where are the y gonna eat ? They’ve cancelled classes there for the week. Next game is in doubt.
What would have been cool, but probably not practical is if LU would have stated in Hickory like originally planned then bussed up there today and tomorrow to help facilitate the clean up.
What would help most, having LU as a team go help with the cleanup, or play the game and use all the proceeds towards cleanup?
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By thepostman
#663725
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 7:31 pm
thepostman wrote: September 28th, 2024, 6:12 pm It's mean spirited to claim a team is ducking you when the community is dealing with a historic flood. If thats you and the shoe fits...

App State doesn't event know when they'll practice next and you want them to decide if they can play us on a bye week?

Again, if the shoe was on the other foot there us no doubt this message board and Twitter would be filled with LU fans upset (and rightfully so).

The CC mentioned was unexpected.

But nobody is saying people can't be disappointed the game isn't being played. It's the petty jabs coming from our players and some folks in our fanbase that rub me the wrong way.

I'm disappointed the game was cancelled but such is life. Ya know?

And yes. Non conference games have been cancelled altogether. It sucks.
Stop making sense and being reasonable. We are in agreement and that is throwing the Flamesverse all out of whack!
The Flamesverse :lol: :lol: I like that.
#663727
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 7:35 pm
Purple Haize wrote: September 28th, 2024, 7:04 pm
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 3:57 pm

Of course I have. Such a game could provided a powerful rallying point within the community with proceeds of the game being donated to the rebuilding effort which I'm sure would be appreciated by those facing uninsured loses.
Re read what you wrote. You think someone who lost everything and has no insurance will be placated or even care about a football game? You think already over extended public services could handle another 10-15k people? Where are they going to stay? Where are the y gonna eat ? They’ve cancelled classes there for the week. Next game is in doubt.
What would have been cool, but probably not practical is if LU would have stated in Hickory like originally planned then bussed up there today and tomorrow to help facilitate the clean up.
What would help most, having LU as a team go help with the cleanup, or play the game and use all the proceeds towards cleanup?
Have LU as a team go help with clean up. Unlike a game that would bolster not deplete public services. A game would bring in thousands of people into the area some with no way to get out. People who lost everything don’t care about a game but would certainly appreciate a group of young men helping them clean up. Any money realized from a game would be offset by the extra expense of emergency and public services. It would also teach the young men about servant leadership.
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#663728
LUDad wrote: September 28th, 2024, 8:12 pm What would be the thoughts of a 20 year old Purple on this subject...
20 year old Purple probably would have asked his coach if we could head up there to help out. Or 20 Year old Purple would have partnered with some coeds to gather needed items to take up there on an off day. Not just because it would be altruistic but because it would be a good way to impress the ladies!
If by chance a 20 year old Purple posted something like that (pfft we barely had Word Processors) his Coach would have yanked a knot in him, he would have been ashamed of his actions and issue a genuine and sincere apology that would be manifest by one or both of the above actions.
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#663735
Old Timers will remember the Lynchburg flood of 1985 when all our football equipment stored at Treasure Island went floating down the James River toward Richmond. LU had to forfeit our last two football games during the Coach Morgan Hout years!
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