[TH Spangler]

It's tough to put into a snip that won't change anyone's minds.

For Trump, I've directly seen the negative impact his behavior has had on immigrants and/or people who just look/or sound different than him. He has mocked people who have disabilities, who speak different languages, and veterans. This basic lack of decency and human respect has trickled down directly to my family. We've seen it firsthand. As a husband, he's cheated on his wife (probably multiple wives). In the most recent example, he cheated on his wife with a porn star and attempted to cover it up with a fraudulent payout. He was found guilty by a jury of his peers of a felony. He has stated he doesn't ask for forgiveness. So here, you have someone who cheats, lies, insults, and yet doesn't ever find himself in a place to ask for forgiveness. I don't mind if he's not a Christian (he's clearly not), but even as a basic human trait, we should all seek forgiveness when we do some pretty terrible things.

Biden on the other hand, seems to be a faithful husband and a decent father. Instead of insulting veterans, he rose one of his children in a manner that led them to join the military. He demonstrates much more humility (which is hard at that level) than Trump ever does.

One of the first and foremost requirements for me is to vote for people of character. I firmly believe that Biden has a stronger character than Trump, based on both of their direct words and actions. Not media sound bites or anything. This is just based on their behavior.

I'm not even getting onto policy, but I feel that Trump and the current leaning of the right doesn't respect education. I believe education is a foundation of a strong republic and I believe it's at risk. There are a lot of reasons behind this, and many of them are the fault of the education system itself, but the right has picked the wrong target for their ire. Library books aren't the issue with education.

Our family is strictly pro-life. However I don't believe the current right leaning movement is. They are anti-abortion, but not pro-life. I believe pro-life is pro-healthcare, pro-maternity and paternity leave, pro-education from pre-k to post-secondary and pro-contraception so that folks have a lesser chance of facing an unexpected pregnancy and feel like abortion is the answer.

I don't expect many on here to agree, but you asked, and I wanted to provide an answer.

Your either a closets democrat or a board troll. Or very gullable. Maybe all three

You're cutting Joe some slack on going naked in front of female secret service agents assigned to guard him. Of groping a female aid, of constant inappropriate touching and smelling women and children. A Google search comes up with a list of sexual misconduct accusers. Showering with his daughter. And don't forget his morally bankrupt family. And the laptop is real.

[Purple Haize]

No need to be insulting. I disagree with a lot of what he said, especially the part about Biden being a man of character and the value of education , but kudos to him for coming on here and putting it there. We don’t need to be an echo chamber We need to encourage differences of opinion with out being difficult
On a side note I saw where Bob Good was trailing in his Primary.

[Yacht Rock]

And I’d encourage anyone to pursue their complaints against Biden to the fullest extent of the law.

I don’t expect to change your mind. And no, we’re not Democrats. Sorry to disappoint you.

[JK37]

I wasn’t asking you to change minds. And I appreciate you answering the question.

[prototype]

It's tough to put into a snip that won't change anyone's minds.

For Trump, I've directly seen the negative impact his behavior has had on immigrants and/or people who just look/or sound different than him. He has mocked people who have disabilities, who speak different languages, and veterans. This basic lack of decency and human respect has trickled down directly to my family. We've seen it firsthand. As a husband, he's cheated on his wife (probably multiple wives). In the most recent example, he cheated on his wife with a porn star and attempted to cover it up with a fraudulent payout. He was found guilty by a jury of his peers of a felony. He has stated he doesn't ask for forgiveness. So here, you have someone who cheats, lies, insults, and yet doesn't ever find himself in a place to ask for forgiveness. I don't mind if he's not a Christian (he's clearly not), but even as a basic human trait, we should all seek forgiveness when we do some pretty terrible things.

Biden on the other hand, seems to be a faithful husband and a decent father. Instead of insulting veterans, he rose one of his children in a manner that led them to join the military. He demonstrates much more humility (which is hard at that level) than Trump ever does.

One of the first and foremost requirements for me is to vote for people of character. I firmly believe that Biden has a stronger character than Trump, based on both of their direct words and actions. Not media sound bites or anything. This is just based on their behavior.

I'm not even getting onto policy, but I feel that Trump and the current leaning of the right doesn't respect education. I believe education is a foundation of a strong republic and I believe it's at risk. There are a lot of reasons behind this, and many of them are the fault of the education system itself, but the right has picked the wrong target for their ire. Library books aren't the issue with education.

Our family is strictly pro-life. However I don't believe the current right leaning movement is. They are anti-abortion, but not pro-life. I believe pro-life is pro-healthcare, pro-maternity and paternity leave, pro-education from pre-k to post-secondary and pro-contraception so that folks have a lesser chance of facing an unexpected pregnancy and feel like abortion is the answer.

I don't expect many on here to agree, but you asked, and I wanted to provide an answer.

Your either a closets democrat or a board troll. Or very gullable. Maybe all three

You're cutting Joe some slack on going naked in front of female secret service agents assigned to guard him. Of groping a female aid, of constant inappropriate touching and smelling women and children. A Google search comes up with a list of sexual misconduct accusers. Showering with his daughter. And don't forget his morally bankrupt family. And the laptop is real.

Wow. I can’t even respond to his post. I’ll give you credit for doing it….

[TH Spangler]

Just stuff I've heard and read in the news.

[TH Spangler]

On a side note I saw where Bob Good was trailing in his Primary.

Trump is all in for McGuire. If Trump's endorsement carries that much weight and helps him win, its probably another indicator Trump can flip Virginia in the presidential election.

[Humble_Opinion]

My opinion isn’t based on the media. I don’t really follow MSM. Just based on Trump’s actions and the words out of his mouth. I don’t see much of anything about him that aligns with my faith or something that in good conscience I could support. Again, that’s just how we see it.

It's tough to put into a snip that won't change anyone's minds.

For Trump, I've directly seen the negative impact his behavior has had on immigrants and/or people who just look/or sound different than him. He has mocked people who have disabilities, who speak different languages, and veterans. This basic lack of decency and human respect has trickled down directly to my family. We've seen it firsthand. As a husband, he's cheated on his wife (probably multiple wives). In the most recent example, he cheated on his wife with a porn star and attempted to cover it up with a fraudulent payout. He was found guilty by a jury of his peers of a felony. He has stated he doesn't ask for forgiveness. So here, you have someone who cheats, lies, insults, and yet doesn't ever find himself in a place to ask for forgiveness. I don't mind if he's not a Christian (he's clearly not), but even as a basic human trait, we should all seek forgiveness when we do some pretty terrible things.

Biden on the other hand, seems to be a faithful husband and a decent father. Instead of insulting veterans, he rose one of his children in a manner that led them to join the military. He demonstrates much more humility (which is hard at that level) than Trump ever does.

One of the first and foremost requirements for me is to vote for people of character. I firmly believe that Biden has a stronger character than Trump, based on both of their direct words and actions. Not media sound bites or anything. This is just based on their behavior.

I'm not even getting onto policy, but I feel that Trump and the current leaning of the right doesn't respect education. I believe education is a foundation of a strong republic and I believe it's at risk. There are a lot of reasons behind this, and many of them are the fault of the education system itself, but the right has picked the wrong target for their ire. Library books aren't the issue with education.

Our family is strictly pro-life. However I don't believe the current right leaning movement is. They are anti-abortion, but not pro-life. I believe pro-life is pro-healthcare, pro-maternity and paternity leave, pro-education from pre-k to post-secondary and pro-contraception so that folks have a lesser chance of facing an unexpected pregnancy and feel like abortion is the answer.

I don't expect many on here to agree, but you asked, and I wanted to provide an answer.

These two quotes from you don't square. Everything you wrote in the 2nd reads like the Cliff Notes version of the messaging from the MSM (NYT, Wash Times, MSNBC and CNN) and others who are vehemently anti-Trump. I'm not a huge supporter of his by any stretch, but outright lies like him "mocking the disabled, veterans, etc." are all part of the reason I backed him. You're entitled to your opinion and that opinion is respected here, but you are right... your arguments aren't going to sway anyone's opinion here, because we've heard all this BS before. The fact that you're unable to catch up with the times is not our problem. I'd say I respect you for stating your opinion, but I believe the framing was disingenuous. The whole book banning thing... really? I suppose you're going to dispute the vast amounts of evidence that there are scores of books in elementary schools in numerous states that contain explicit material that are NSFW in any workplace. And the whole "pro-life" lecture you gave... unreal. What contraceptives are the right against? There are some fringe groups out there, but the mainstream of the ideology have zero problem with them. We just don't want to pay for them for other people's benefit.

Then we have your framing of the trial in NYC. Honestly, the fact that you think that was a fair trial shows your true colors.

[Yacht Rock]

Ok. I mean, I guess video of Trump doing and saying things isn’t enough. Not sure what to tell you.

This isn’t heresay. It’s literally things he’s said and done with ample evidence. You can surely bury your head in the sand, but I won’t.

[JK37]

I've directly seen the negative impact his behavior has had on immigrants…This basic lack of decency and human respect has trickled down directly to my family. We've seen it firsthand.

“Directly” and “firsthand”

I must admit I missed those the first time reading it through. Can you elaborate at all on that?

[Yacht Rock]

[quote="Yacht Rock" post_id=661842 time=<a href="tel:1718304616" data-original-title="" title="">1718304616</a> user_id=3085] I've directly seen the negative impact his behavior has had on immigrants…This basic lack of decency and human respect has trickled down directly to my family. We've seen it firsthand.

“Directly” and “firsthand”

I must admit I missed those the first time reading it through. Can you elaborate at all on that?[/quote]

That’s as much as I’ll say. I don’t want to put my children’s trauma out there any more than necessary.

[ATrain]

No need to be insulting. I disagree with a lot of what he said, especially the part about Biden being a man of character and the value of education , but kudos to him for coming on here and putting it there. We don’t need to be an echo chamber We need to encourage differences of opinion with out being difficult
On a side note I saw where Bob Good was trailing in his Primary.

The only poll that matters is the one that closes on June 18 at 7 PM. Based on yard signs, and what I've seen on social media, Good will win, unfortunately.

I also disagree with what Yacht Rock said about Biden, but I agree w/ YR about Trump and how most Republicans are just anti-abortion as opposed to pro-life. I am sure YR and I would vehemently disagree about what it means to be pro-education though.

As far as voting third party, the only way we'll break the political tribalism that our Founding Fathers warned us about is to stop voting for the R and D candidates. At the end of the day, after results are announced, I can just wash my hands and go on with life.

Finally, I think we need to expand the House of Representative beyond 435. When that number was set, we had around 200 million less people and only 48 states. The current average is around 761,000. In Virginia, it's almost 787,000. States that have only 1 representative have either many more constitutes per representative or significantly less than the average.

[TH Spangler]

YR I accepted "some" of your criticisms of Trump. But you lost me with your comments about Biden.

The problem with immigration is Biden through our border wide open and many people are concerned about people meaning us harm taking advantage. Lawful immigration is vital to our future.

[Yacht Rock]

I’m not trying to get you with anything. I was asked a question and answered. I don’t expect many folks on this board agree, and that’s okay. I’ll still sleep peacefully tonight.

[jmclaughlin]

Cognitive Dissonance...

[Purple Haize]

No need to be insulting. I disagree with a lot of what he said, especially the part about Biden being a man of character and the value of education , but kudos to him for coming on here and putting it there. We don’t need to be an echo chamber We need to encourage differences of opinion with out being difficult
On a side note I saw where Bob Good was trailing in his Primary.

The only poll that matters is the one that closes on June 18 at 7 PM. Based on yard signs, and what I've seen on social media, Good will win, unfortunately.

I also disagree with what Yacht Rock said about Biden, but I agree w/ YR about Trump and how most Republicans are just anti-abortion as opposed to pro-life. I am sure YR and I would vehemently disagree about what it means to be pro-education though.

As far as voting third party, the only way we'll break the political tribalism that our Founding Fathers warned us about is to stop voting for the R and D candidates. At the end of the day, after results are announced, I can just wash my hands and go on with life.

Finally, I think we need to expand the House of Representative beyond 435. When that number was set, we had around 200 million less people and only 48 states. The current average is around 761,000. In Virginia, it's almost 787,000. States that have only 1 representative have either many more constitutes per representative or significantly less than the average.

I’ve seen about as many McGuire signs as Good. I fear he will win again but I think it’s gonna be close.
I agree with you about needing more options than R and D but that’s where we are right now. IMO voting 3rd Party at this point is akin to virtue signaling serving no purpose. As I said at the time Trumps first Presidency shows what would happen if there was a 3rd Party President. Both sides would work against them
Based on the number of Christian based adoption agencies etc I also disagree with the lack of Pro Life after Birth.
Not sure about expanding the House.

[ATrain]

No need to be insulting. I disagree with a lot of what he said, especially the part about Biden being a man of character and the value of education , but kudos to him for coming on here and putting it there. We don’t need to be an echo chamber We need to encourage differences of opinion with out being difficult
On a side note I saw where Bob Good was trailing in his Primary.

The only poll that matters is the one that closes on June 18 at 7 PM. Based on yard signs, and what I've seen on social media, Good will win, unfortunately.

I also disagree with what Yacht Rock said about Biden, but I agree w/ YR about Trump and how most Republicans are just anti-abortion as opposed to pro-life. I am sure YR and I would vehemently disagree about what it means to be pro-education though.

As far as voting third party, the only way we'll break the political tribalism that our Founding Fathers warned us about is to stop voting for the R and D candidates. At the end of the day, after results are announced, I can just wash my hands and go on with life.

Finally, I think we need to expand the House of Representative beyond 435. When that number was set, we had around 200 million less people and only 48 states. The current average is around 761,000. In Virginia, it's almost 787,000. States that have only 1 representative have either many more constitutes per representative or significantly less than the average.

I’ve seen about as many McGuire signs as Good. I fear he will win again but I think it’s gonna be close.
I agree with you about needing more options than R and D but that’s where we are right now. IMO voting 3rd Party at this point is akin to virtue signaling serving no purpose. As I said at the time Trumps first Presidency shows what would happen if there was a 3rd Party President. Both sides would work against them
Based on the number of Christian based adoption agencies etc I also disagree with the lack of Pro Life after Birth.
Not sure about expanding the House.

Considering the laws being passed by people like Governor Abbott and his ilk around the country, I'm standing by my anti-abortion comment. The number of Christian adoption agencies is irrelevant if a mother cannot get an abortion to save her own life. So many Republicans passing laws without understanding anatomy, biology, and physiology.

You can call my vote for a 3rd party virtue signaling, but like Prototype, your opinion is given appropriate weight.

I've seen more Good signs than McGuire signs, especially up in Amelia/Powhatan/Goochland area as well as south of Brookneal. There are more McGuire signs in my precinct, and its fairly even in Prince Edward and Appomattox counties from what I've seen. Bedford County seems to have more McGuire signs, but overall I think Good is going to win. Hopefully it's close enough to scare him and cause another primary challenge in 2 years that's actually successful.

[Purple Haize]

From Lynchburg out East I’ve seen more McGuire signs. But we agree that we will be happy to see Good gone
I’m not signaling you out about voting 3rd Party. That’s directed at anybody who does
I am not aware of anti abortion laws that don’t allow for life saving exceptions of the mother

[flamehunter]

https://www.wset.com/news/local/new-pol ... june-2024#

As of 8 days ago, McGuire had a 10% lead in this poll. However, its says 30% of respondents were still undecided. I expect McGuire to win. Trumps endorsement carries a lot of weight.
And might I add, the vitriol between the two who are really not all that different policy-wise, has been pretty disheartening. I get mailings daily stating how liberal and un-American the other guy is, but I they don't really tell me what's so great about themselves.

[JK37]

All because Bob backed DeSantis during the primaries…

He’ll hath no fury like a Trump scorned.

[jmclaughlin]

Desantis feels like the one that got away...Now we are stuck with the party girl that loves lip fillers and has "been around the block" or the disabled lunch lady.

[TH Spangler]

If Trump wins, AG pick will be more important than the VP.

[Purple Haize]

All because Bob backed DeSantis during the primaries…

He’ll hath no fury like a Trump scorned.

Meh. I preferred DeSantis as well. I have never voted for Good and never will

[jmclaughlin]

If Trump wins, AG pick will be more important than the VP.

This!

How great would it have been if Trump would put party and county first and could have taken on DeSantis as VP with the outward goal of 4 years of Trump with the hope of 8 years of DeSantis. Now we may not get either.

Curious question, how many of you believe that Biden will be the name on the ticket in November?

[JK37]

All because Bob backed DeSantis during the primaries…

He’ll hath no fury like a Trump scorned.

Meh. I preferred DeSantis as well. I have never voted for Good and never will

I know. (I don’t know why, but that’s your business.)
Does it really matter?whoever represents the VA-5th District as a Republican is going to vote the same on anything in the House anyway.