[Purple Haize]

To the transfers: don't let the door hit ya on the way out

If a co-worker of yours found a new job they felt was a better opportunity is this how'd you react?

Obviously never talk to them again. Delete all evidence they even worked there and ban anyone with the same first or last name from working there ever again

[Purple Haize]

NCAA should eliminate portal, except for extreme hardship cases. Being selfish ain't a hardship case.

Should coaches be given lifetime contracts and never be fired ? Cause those kids come to play for that coach. Why should the NCAA allow coaches to take other jobs in your world view?

We've asked him these same questions for years and it breaks him. Now he has a partner in crime to justify this backwards thinking.

It’s frightening people still have this World view.

[Tnobes]

You really don't see the difference between a coach and players? And yes I think coaches should have to finish out their contract no matter what, so maybe just sign one year contracts if you are looking for greener pasture. If you sign a contract you should not be able to get out of it. A university can break the contract for cause but nothing more. That would fix it and if a head coach leaves you get one free transfer other than that no transfers

[Tnobes]

Should coaches be given lifetime contracts and never be fired ? Cause those kids come to play for that coach. Why should the NCAA allow coaches to take other jobs in your world view?

We've asked him these same questions for years and it breaks him. Now he has a partner in crime to justify this backwards thinking.

It’s frightening people still have this World view.

Yes, very frightening people still value commitment. I'm shaking 🫨

[Tnobes]

To the transfers: don't let the door hit ya on the way out

If a co-worker of yours found a new job they felt was a better opportunity is this how'd you react?

Obviously never talk to them again. Delete all evidence they even worked there and ban anyone with the same first or last name from working there ever again

What would be a circumstance that you talk to a co worker who left? When and where would you see them? I don't even talk to people who left our church but still live in the same place, I make new friendships, they are not in your rhythm of life anymore, I don't hate them but why would I go out of my way to make time for them either? It's more apathy about someone who is gone, they aren't physically in your space anymore.

[Tnobes]

Lol coaches have been leaving kids and schools high and dry for decades. It's about time the system catches up. Get out of here.

So a "what's good for the goose" is your argument? Can you tell me some scriptures that support that life motto?

Huh???? You're being purposefully obtuse.

If a co-worker of yours found a new job they felt was a better opportunity is this how'd you react?

I wouldn't react one way or another, I wouldn't talk to them or see them ever again and wouldn't give a darn what happened to them. Out of sight out of mind

You ask me for scripture to justify kids transferring to other schools and then drop this nugget???? Can you not see how unkind you are being?

I get being disappointed but you're taking that to a whole different level.

What did I say that was "unkind"? And is kindness a value we should aspire to?

[thepostman]

You really don't see the difference between a coach and players? And yes I think coaches should have to finish out their contract no matter what, so maybe just sign one year contracts if you are looking for greener pasture. If you sign a contract you should not be able to get out of it. A university can break the contract for cause but nothing more. That would fix it and if a head coach leaves you get one free transfer other than that no transfers

If anything a coach breaking a contract is WORSE than a player transferring. A scholarship isn't a 4 year contract like most people assume.

Regardless both should be allowed in a capitalistic society....

[thepostman]

@Tnobes Everything about your approach to this has been unkind. You can't even wish the kid well on his future because he isn't at YOUR school anymore. Will you welcome the players who transfer here or will you stick to your convictions here and shun them? After all, by your logic, they have no loyalty.

Yes. Kindness is something we should aspire to. Jesus was a pretty kind dude. He continously was kind to those who many thought he should shun. He healed a leaper, he ate meals with sinners, he reached out to gentiles that jews typically ignored, he showed kindness to those who were sick, and he forgave those who denied Him. That is ultimate kindness!! A kindness I fail to live up to daily.

So I meet your Jesus juke with my own. You're welcome

[LUDad]

You really don't see the difference between a coach and players? And yes I think coaches should have to finish out their contract no matter what, so maybe just sign one year contracts if you are looking for greener pasture. If you sign a contract you should not be able to get out of it. A university can break the contract for cause but nothing more. That would fix it and if a head coach leaves you get one free transfer other than that no transfers

If I'm not mistaken, most if not all college coaches have buy-outs in the contracts that allow them to be "released" from the contract should their dream job comes along. So, contractually, the school that comes calling is simply paying off that clause in the contract. Everything is on the up and up. Who know, perhaps Freeze signed his last contract to help LU collect more premium...

[Ill flame]

Jayden Bradford just became the starter. With our running game and his ability to run you can develop him as the season progresses and still win

The CFP committee just declared us the top G5 on our way to the fiesta bowl. We don't need to start a freshman, we have options. I'm sure we'll go through spring with all of our QBs getting a chance to prove themselves but ultimately we end up bringing in a grad transfer to bridge the gap until one of them is ready.

[Purple Haize]

You really don't see the difference between a coach and players? And yes I think coaches should have to finish out their contract no matter what, so maybe just sign one year contracts if you are looking for greener pasture. If you sign a contract you should not be able to get out of it. A university can break the contract for cause but nothing more. That would fix it and if a head coach leaves you get one free transfer other than that no transfers

If anything a coach breaking a contract is WORSE than a player transferring. A scholarship isn't a 4 year contract like most people assume.

Regardless both should be allowed in a capitalistic society....

Exactly. Scholarships are 1 year deals. So if a kid wants to bolt after that year then that’s fine. They’ve honored their contract.

[FlamesHighontheTide]

I've had some time to think a little more about Salter transferring from LU. My perception is 2 sided. The first side, I am so grateful for his sacrifice and play that blessed this fanbase with so many remarkable moments this season and last. He really showed perseverance and growth from year 1 to year 2. Even in the loss to Oregon yesterday, he showed maturity & appreciation for the fanbase. I also don't blame him for wanting to potentially (there are no guarantee contracts for NIL) make more money in what will more than likely be his last year of college football. For the record, wherever he goes I do believe he'll make more money than he could at LU & I wish him the best.

The second side and for me this is where the frustrations lie. Side note, this is not directly pointed at Salter but at the entire system. One more side note, just because this is the new era of college football I don't have to be okay with it because I am not. Players getting paid is not a bad thing, but the way NIL is working out is a dumpster fire. The transfer portal has become a dumpster fire. The amount of coaches recruiting players who aren't even in the portal must be extinguished. There has to be accountability or you have anarchy. The NCAA has shown no picture that they care for coaches' families, or that these are still student-athletes. I'm willing to guess I am preaching to the choir, but it became a topic today due to Salter & Singleton transferring out. I am not the least bit worried or even concerned about how the team will perform because Chadwell is a great coach & we have great coaches, staff & players. Next man up as they say.

Lastly, I am very concerned for alot of these players (not intended at Salter or Singleton) in the portal who jump from team to team to team in the span of 4-5 years of college and they've played for 3 or more teams. Habits are being established in these young men's lives that are not healthy. College Football was just better without the transfer portal.

[Purple Haize]

@Tnobes Everything about your approach to this has been unkind. You can't even wish the kid well on his future because he isn't at YOUR school anymore. Will you welcome the players who transfer here or will you stick to your convictions here and shun them? After all, by your logic, they have no loyalty.

Yes. Kindness is something we should aspire to. Jesus was a pretty kind dude. He continously was kind to those who many thought he should shun. He healed a leaper, he ate meals with sinners, he reached out to gentiles that jews typically ignored, he showed kindness to those who were sick, and he forgave those who denied Him. That is ultimate kindness!! A kindness I fail to live up to daily.

So I meet your Jesus juke with my own. You're welcome

You went all Holy Ghost Glide on him!

[JK37]

I've had some time to think a little more about Salter transferring from LU. My perception is 2 sided. The first side, I am so grateful for his sacrifice and play that blessed this fanbase with so many remarkable moments this season and last. He really showed perseverance and growth from year 1 to year 2. Even in the loss to Oregon yesterday, he showed maturity & appreciation for the fanbase. I also don't blame him for wanting to potentially (there are no guarantee contracts for NIL) make more money in what will more than likely be his last year of college football. For the record, wherever he goes I do believe he'll make more money than he could at LU & I wish him the best.

The second side and for me this is where the frustrations lie. Side note, this is not directly pointed at Salter but at the entire system. One more side note, just because this is the new era of college football I don't have to be okay with it because I am not. Players getting paid is not a bad thing, but the way NIL is working out is a dumpster fire. The transfer portal has become a dumpster fire. The amount of coaches recruiting players who aren't even in the portal must be extinguished. There has to be accountability or you have anarchy. The NCAA has shown no picture that they care for coaches' families, or that these are still student-athletes. I'm willing to guess I am preaching to the choir, but it became a topic today due to Salter & Singleton transferring out. I am not the least bit worried or even concerned about how the team will perform because Chadwell is a great coach & we have great coaches, staff & players. Next man up as they say.

Lastly, I am very concerned for alot of these players (not intended at Salter or Singleton) in the portal who jump from team to team to team in the span of 4-5 years of college and they've played for 3 or more teams. Habits are being established in these young men's lives that are not healthy. College Football was just better without the transfer portal.

This has been going on in more sports than football long before the transfer portal came into existence. It’s not the portal so much as the relaxed rules about transferring. The portal is just the place to gather names; the real bellweather moment was when the NCAA repealed their rule against sitting out a year.

As for tampering. It’s happened for YEARS. Again, the rule changes made it more prevalent. But there is the letter of the law and the spirit. Every s-a has a circle. Just have to have your people call their people. Untraceable by the weak NCAA.

[Tnobes]

"Jesus juke" is a term used by clowns. It really just implies that your Christianity is compartmentalized. I know now you aren't any deeper than sports and won't expect anything more out of you than that. Our sports are off limits from our Christianity. Got it

[thepostman]

The Jesus juke thing was a joke. Everything else you just said isn't remotely close to anything I said. Go back and read again.

[Yacht Rock]

Remember when Judas left the supper and Jesus said, "Don't let the door hit you on the way out."

Or when he was being crucified, and he told the Roman soldiers, "Don't let the door hit you on the way to hell."

Wait a second...maybe there's a different approach he took...

What if...hold on...we tried to take that approach too, even when we're disappointed or frustrated with people.

Did Jesus care about the well being of people who weren't in his immediate physical space? I hope so, because that would include me.

Jesus Juke, signing off

[RubberMallet]

I'm assuming everyone who is mad about salters was NOT drooling from the mouth at the rumors of Greyson McCall coming to Liberty last year. I'm going to bet you were.

These made up good ole days didn't exist. players stayed because there was no other option. if all this crap existed back then, the high and mighty would of pilfered the full coffers as well. Schools and programs, as a whole, have shown 0 loyalty to the players as it is. They can pull scholarships, NIL, at will. Most coaches will jet to the next opportunity without much care for what it does to the program they are leaving. But we expect better from....kids.

Lament that college football is a zillion dollar industry, lament that the NCAA has done very little to control NIL management, but not these kids for taking advantage of it. Their chances of being drafted are slim. they will likely work a 9-5 like the rest of us. they have an opportunity to take advantage the earning power their skills have right now. I can't fault them for that .

Oh and guess what? college football will be fine. It will still be a fine product and we will all still love it.

[Purple Haize]

The Jesus juke thing was a joke. Everything else you just said isn't remotely close to anything I said. Go back and read again.

He’s like the Barry Sanders of Jesus Juking!

[Tnobes]

The Jesus juke thing was a joke. Everything else you just said isn't remotely close to anything I said. Go back and read again.

He’s like the Barry Sanders of Jesus Juking!

You are the biggest fake Christian on here, so I don't take anything you say seriously.

[AATL]

... so anyways, in the portal.

I'm interested to see how the various services view Salter given how they spent so much time and energy dragging Liberty achievements for level of competition ahead of the Fiesta Bowl. ESPN just ranked him as #3 amongst the best available QBs behind Malachi Nelson (USC 5*) and Will Howard: Link ($): https://www.espn.com/college-football/i ... le-commits

From the article:

Auburn would make a lot of sense considering Hugh Freeze is now at Auburn and was Salter's coach at Liberty to start his career.

However, Hugh Freeze recently used a press conference question about taking a transfer QB to throw some water on the idea and speak in pretty strong support of his current room. After watching 2022 from the outside, I'd be a little surprised to see Salter seek that reunion anyways - especially since Freeze/Salter had the ability to make that happen when Freeze took the job.

I don’t know if you know this, but we have one of the top returning quarterbacks in Power Five with wins in Payton Thorne," Freeze said. "I believe that if we get the right pieces around him and Holden and Hank, I think our quarterback room is going to be fine next year. That is my belief... I haven’t found a (better) guy yet (in the portal). And, No. 1, if you go take one, you're probably going to lose Payton (or) Holden. You better be right.

Ohio State is looking for a QB after chasing their 3100 yard, 11-1 scapegoat out of town for losing to Michigan, but a segment of their fans seem to think Will Howard is a done deal. They also have a 5* coming in (Air Noland) who will push for playing time soon. USC (the real one) is actively shopping after losing Williams and Nelson, as is Miami (also the real one) after swinging and missing on Cam Ward.

He might have some enticing options to play at the top of CFB.

[jmclaughlin]

The Jesus juke thing was a joke. Everything else you just said isn't remotely close to anything I said. Go back and read again.

He’s like the Barry Sanders of Jesus Juking!

You are the biggest fake Christian on here, so I don't take anything you say seriously.

Pump the brakes man. Being the arbiter of the authenticity of "Christianity" is a fruitless path. We should all agree that loyalty is a good thing...in most cases. However, these student athletes shouldn't be held to the standard of a blood oath commitment to an institution that is daily trying to replace them. In the end, we should celebrate their commitment to make LU a part of their story and root for them as they move on to the next opportunity.

Being mad at these kids for ruining your fan experience might be the worst take being offered at the moment.

[thepostman]

... so anyways, in the portal.

I'm interested to see how the various services view Salter given how they spent so much time and energy dragging Liberty achievements for level of competition ahead of the Fiesta Bowl. ESPN just ranked him as #3 amongst the best available QBs behind Malachi Nelson (USC 5*) and Will Howard: Link ($): https://www.espn.com/college-football/i ... le-commits

From the article:

Auburn would make a lot of sense considering Hugh Freeze is now at Auburn and was Salter's coach at Liberty to start his career.

However, Hugh Freeze recently used a press conference question about taking a transfer QB to throw some water on the idea and speak in pretty strong support of his current room. After watching 2022 from the outside, I'd be a little surprised to see Salter seek that reunion anyways - especially since Freeze/Salter had the ability to make that happen when Freeze took the job.

I don’t know if you know this, but we have one of the top returning quarterbacks in Power Five with wins in Payton Thorne," Freeze said. "I believe that if we get the right pieces around him and Holden and Hank, I think our quarterback room is going to be fine next year. That is my belief... I haven’t found a (better) guy yet (in the portal). And, No. 1, if you go take one, you're probably going to lose Payton (or) Holden. You better be right.

Ohio State is looking for a QB after chasing their 3100 yard, 11-1 scapegoat out of town for losing to Michigan, but a segment of their fans seem to think Will Howard is a done deal. They also have a 5* coming in (Air Noland) who will push for playing time soon. USC (the real one) is actively shopping after losing Williams and Nelson, as is Miami (also the real one) after swinging and missing on Cam Ward.

He might have some enticing options to play at the top of CFB.

I doubt he is going to Auburn but I think we have all learned that HF is a master in how he uses language. So it isn't completely off the table.

[RubberMallet]

miami is also looking for a QB.

[RubberMallet]

The Jesus juke thing was a joke. Everything else you just said isn't remotely close to anything I said. Go back and read again.

He’s like the Barry Sanders of Jesus Juking!

You are the biggest fake Christian on here, so I don't take anything you say seriously.

lol who is this guy?