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#65077
The most disturbing thing in this article is finding out we had an extra time-out during the last 3.8 seconds and didn't use it; that hurts the most, because Smitty could have called it, rather that throwing the ball to LB in the backcourt.
LU men didn't live up to potential

By Chris Lang
Lynchburg News & Advance
March 2, 2007


If there was a poster child for Liberty's 2006-07 basketball season, Alex McLean was it.
The junior forward was capable of putting together huge nights, like he did when he scored 40 points and grabbed 19 rebounds at VMI last week. He also had a tendency to struggle at key times, as he did in the second half of a loss at Winthrop last month.

That was Liberty's season in a nutshell. No team in the Big South had a better group of assembled athletes. Just ask any of the conference's assistant coaches. Winthrop had the best team. Liberty had the best athletes.

But that didn't translate to victories, and the up-and-down nature of the club eventually cost head coach Randy Dunton his job.

"It was almost like rolling the dice with us sometimes," McLean said. "Who knows how we were going to show up and play?"

After opening the year with a loss at Oklahoma, Liberty won six straight before losing eight straight. That sort of up-and-down play continued throughout the year. The Flames lost by 28 at home to Winthrop but led the Eagles on their home floor by 13 in the first half before losing.

The Flames finish 14-17 overall and 8-6 in the Big South, good for third place.

Liberty swept VMI in the regular-season but lost to the Keydets at home in the Big South tournament, Liberty's third straight first-round tourney exit.

VMI's coaching staff threw Liberty a changeup Tuesday. The Keydets, the nation's highest-scoring team, played zone defense and half-court offense, and Liberty didn't adjust.

"We knew in the back of our heads that they weren't going to come out the same VMI team we saw the last two times, because they lost," McLean said. "We really didn't make any adjustments, to be honest. We made a tweak here or there during the game, but leading up to that in practice, we just did the same thing we always did.

"We didn't even throw out the idea that they might sit back in a zone. We should have known they were going to pack a zone in because we were killing them on the inside (in the first two games). They know we're not a 3-point shooting team."

Compounding the pain from that defeat was the fact that Liberty made a key error on the game's final play. Down 79-78 with 3.8 seconds left, Liberty had a chance to win, but VMI defended the Flames' inbounds play well. The Keydets forced Liberty's Anthony Smith to throw the ball into the backcourt instead of the frontcourt, and Liberty never got a decent look at the basket.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

"That was a bad moment," Brewington said. "It seems like we were meant to lose. I really hate to say that, but that's what it seems like."

Aside from Larry Blair, the Big South's all-time leading scorer, and forward Damien Hubbard, Liberty returns the bulk of this year's team next year.

The new coach will have plenty of talent to work with, including a backcourt that will feature Brewington and Virginia transfer T.J. Bannister. Freshmen Tyler Baker and B.J. Jenkins showed great growth throughout the season, and freshman forward Lamont Winters appears healthy after missing this season due to a severe ankle injury.

"If the whole team comes back, I do believe we'll be 10 times better than we were this year," Brewington said.


A LOOK AHEAD AT LIBERTY'S ROSTER

KEY RETURNERS: G Dwight Brewington, G B.J. Jenkins, C Alex McLean, G Justin Holland, F Tyler Baker, F Rell Porter, G Anthony Smith

KEY LOSSES: G Larry Blair, G/F Damien Hubbard

NEWCOMERS TO WATCH: G T.J. Bannister, F Lamont Winters (RS)


A LOOK AHEAD TO THE 2007-08 LIBERTY BASKETBALL SEASON

3 QUESTIONS: Will a new head coach lead to a loss of key personnel? ? How will the Flames adjust to the loss of Blair, the Big South's all-time leading scorer? ? Will McLean be more consistent than he was during an up-and-down junior season?

OUTLOOK: It's hard to predict what kind of success the Flames will have until a new coach is in place. What system will the new coach run? Will he be offensive or defensive minded? Will players leave? With only Blair and Hubbard graduating, the roster is talent-rich, and Liberty should be primed to make a run at a Big South championship. Winthrop loses several key seniors, so the Eagles might not be the automatic favorite they have been in the last few years.
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By Fumblerooskies
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The tone of the article is quite an indictment.
By Ed Dantes
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A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

A day later, Dwight Brewington said, the Flames found out they still had a timeout left.

Yeah, Dunton had to go.
By Ed Dantes
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All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. You get my point.
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By Purple Haize
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Wow, that is a bombshell. Didn't RD say that they KNEW and PrACTICED for the VMI zone? Sounds like Alex wasn't a happy camper, or D Brew for that matter. Perhaps these two would have left otherwise.
Chris does a great job I must confess. It is a blazing article, but with nothing but facts and quotes, no specualtion, (Which he should save for the BOARD, this is where speculation takes on a life of its own!!)
By LUconn
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If the whole team comes back, I do believe we'll be 10 times better than we were this year," Brewington said.
This coming from a guy who says he might not be back. Well, come back already.
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By El Scorcho
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Purple Haize wrote:(Which he should save for the BOARD, this is where speculation takes on a life of its own!!)
Go FlameFans.com! :nod :pbjtime :nod
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By TallyW
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Chris has been very impressive with these stories this week. Great job Chris.
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By bigsmooth
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they did not realize they had a time out??? are you kidding me????!!!!!
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By Cider Jim
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Smooth, that's what I'm asking myself--how does a staff with 4 full-time coaches not check on the timeout situation before the last play of a tournament game?
By LUconn
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I was pretty sure we didn't have any. I was keeping track but I guess I could have been wrong. Maybe they were just trying to avoid being the next Image
By Killn'emsoftly
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I was keeping track, LU had one 30 left. Anybody know why Tyler didn't play more than 10 minutes and wasn't in the game on the last play? He scored 12 points in 10 minutes and they played zone for 40 minutes? I didn't get that one.
By Bronx Bombers
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Cider Jim wrote:Smooth, that's what I'm asking myself--how does a staff with 4 full-time coaches not check on the timeout situation before the last play of a tournament game?
Jason Eaker stays on top of the timeout situation throughout the game with the official scorer...as far as the team not knowing about it, can't answer that one. Whats more interesting is that we came out of the initial timeout and got set up and VMI called a timeout after they saw our setup. After that timeout we came out in the exact same setup...
By LUconn
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well, that shouldn't have been a problem since we were baiting them with LB anyway. By all accounts it seemed to me like they were taking the bait.
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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They Took the bait, thats what happens when you have a player that think they DESERVE the ball and decide he knows more than the coach i guess, thats all I am going to say on the topic... Did we have a timeout? No, def. not Eaker would have said something if we did
By Bronx Bombers
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Just checked the box score...we had one 60 second timeout remaining...
By LUconn
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TylerBakersGonnaBGreat wrote:They Took the bait, thats what happens when you have a player that think they DESERVE the ball and decide he knows more than the coach i guess, thats all I am going to say on the topic... Did we have a timeout? No, def. not Eaker would have said something if we did
yes we did. Did you not read the article above?
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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I apologize then
By Killn'emsoftly
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TBGBG,
The difference was VMI put a defender on the guy throwing the ball in bounds, which was Smith, he couldn't get the pass to Brew, only angle was to Blair. It was almost 5 second count too.... For VMI's lack of defense they really did good on that one. :wink: LU used that same play last year, trying to get Blair the ball on the side out play, Baker should have been in da game.
By givemethemic
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#65122
I think I might have a glass of the VMI Koolaide tomorrow....2 teams in the Tourney would be pretty cool
By TylerBakersGonnaBGreat
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Who you telling? If you think I will argue that youre nuts... if Tyler Had 5 fouls, 2 techs, 0 points 0 rebounds 15 turnovers and tried to fight Coach D himself, He should be in the game :D
By Bronx Bombers
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even if we had no intention at all of passing TB the ball, he should be in the game so at least thats another diversion to make the VMI defense respect something other than LB
By Hold My Own
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Tell TBFGBFG something he doesnt know....did you know Tyler should have been coaching the team too? And keeping score, and doing the clock and apparently keeping track of TIMEOUTS TOO!!!!!!!!!
By givemethemic
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Not trying get a big debate going here but who would you have taken out then if Baker should have been in the game?
By Hold My Own
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TBGBGB comes back with 12 different things they could have done in 3-----2------1
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