[Purple Haize]

I'd be curious to see if anybody transfers out if Hugh ends up staying. The players were clearly hurt by his lack of transparency that he has always promised to them.

If I’m JB I’d be gone

[Purple Haize]

I'd be curious to see if anybody transfers out if Hugh ends up staying. The players were clearly hurt by his lack of transparency that he has always promised to them.

Honest question: how was he not transparent? When they asked him, he answered honestly.

He could’ve BS’ed it for one more win. He told them the truth when they asked him. What more can be asked for?

(If he wasn’t all-in the last 3 weeks, that’s not a lack of transparency. That’s…..something else.)

He saw the Social Media Posts. He knew the buzz. He needed to address it FIRST not wait for his players to approach him. That is if he wanted to be transparent

His press conference answers were absolutely BS. Someone should have asked if his lawyer had been negotiating with Auburn. Which would be different than ‘being offered’ or ‘signing a contract’.

[Logic]

How could we keep him if Auburn says no? All would know the only reason he stayed is because he was turned down. How does one recover with the team? Fans? Recruits? Not sure there is any way to spin this?

[LU 57]

I'd be curious to see if anybody transfers out if Hugh ends up staying. The players were clearly hurt by his lack of transparency that he has always promised to them.

If I’m JB I’d be gone

That kid has been nothing but a consummate professional; particularly given how much he has been jerked around…

Sure, he may be a bit limited physically, but he is tough and a good leader. Would like to see how he performs without an impossibly short leash.

[Purple Haize]

How could we keep him if Auburn says no? All would know the only reason he stayed is because he was turned down. How does one recover with the team? Fans? Recruits? Not sure there is any way to spin this?

He’s under contract. Not sure they can fire him For Cause. Wouldn’t be a good look for LU to fire a coach just for pursuing another job. Would LU want to pay his buyout?

[JK37]

He saw the Social Media Posts. He knew the buzz. He needed to address it FIRST not wait for his players to approach him. That is if he wanted to be transparent

His press conference answers were absolutely BS. Someone should have asked if his lawyer had been negotiating with Auburn. Which would be different than ‘being offered’ or ‘signing a contract’.

He answered that by not acknowledging it. I’m not salty about anything he did or did not say. Social Media? Really?

He said he hasn’t been offered the job. What else can he say? He wasn’t asked if his agent or lawyers had been approached? And talking numbers does NOT equal being offered. I’ve been asked about numbers for anion without being offered it. “What would it take to get you here? Would ________ be enough?”

That’s not an offer.

I’m disappointed in the team’s performance the last 3 weeks. I don’t see an issue with the handling of the potential Auburn offer, EXCEPT how/if he allowed it to affect his preparation the last 3 weeks.

[Purple Haize]

I'd be curious to see if anybody transfers out if Hugh ends up staying. The players were clearly hurt by his lack of transparency that he has always promised to them.

If I’m JB I’d be gone

That kid has been nothing but a consummate professional; particularly given how much he has been jerked around…

Sure, he may be a bit limited physically, but he is tough and a good leader. Would like to see how he performs without an impossibly short leash.

Mad respect for that kid. Really want him to play for someone who respects him

[JK37]

Agreed on JB. But again to HF’s credit, he never GAVE the job outright to anyone except Charlie at the beginning of the season coming out of Fall Camp. Seemed to me week by week it was always, “We’ll see who looks the best this week getting ready for____________.”

JB was solid. But he had plenty of his own terrible moments. Salter is the most talented with the most upside, but has no clues how to protect the ball. All things considered, the state of that QB room could’ve kept us at 5 wins. And once Dae Dae went down, they were all screwed. Didn’t matter who lined up behind center.

[ALAFlamesFan]

How could we keep him if Auburn says no? All would know the only reason he stayed is because he was turned down. How does one recover with the team? Fans? Recruits? Not sure there is any way to spin this?

He’s under contract. Not sure they can fire him For Cause. Wouldn’t be a good look for LU to fire a coach just for pursuing another job. Would LU want to pay his buyout?

I agree that it would be tough to buy him out but not impossible. This could blow over if he comes back and falls on the sword, goes all in, etc. He has built up plenty of good will over the years but it will take some time and we will lose some guys and a revised contract with a huge buyout would help too. Commitment over feelings, Hugh.

Trust but verify.

[LU 57]

He saw the Social Media Posts. He knew the buzz. He needed to address it FIRST not wait for his players to approach him. That is if he wanted to be transparent

His press conference answers were absolutely BS. Someone should have asked if his lawyer had been negotiating with Auburn. Which would be different than ‘being offered’ or ‘signing a contract’.

He answered that by not acknowledging it. I’m not salty about anything he did or did not say. Social Media? Really?

He said he hasn’t been offered the job. What else can he say? He wasn’t asked if his agent or lawyers had been approached? And talking numbers does NOT equal being offered. I’ve been asked about numbers for anion without being offered it. “What would it take to get you here? Would ________ be enough?”

That’s not an offer.

I’m disappointed in the team’s performance the last 3 weeks. I don’t see an issue with the handling of the potential Auburn offer, EXCEPT how/if he allowed it to affect his preparation the last 3 weeks.

Fair enough regarding the particulars of negotiations.

Regarding the performance the last 3 weeks, seems pretty clear he allowed the negotiations to affect his preparation, although I guess we will never know for sure.

[willflop]

The thought that IM would try to move on is an impossible notion, imo. IM already knows HF would take a top SEC job when or if it comes, that's the very reason they continue to extend him and do all they can for him to stay. So if he doesn't get the Auburn offer, literally nothing has changed other then bad timing of a leak. If he loses focus in November every year and we keep going 0 and 3, that's a valid concern, but something a little different.

[JK37]

The thought that IM would try to move on is an impossible notion, imo. IM already knows HF would take a top SEC job when or if it comes, that's the very reason they continue to extend him and do all they can for him to stay. So if he doesn't get the Auburn offer, literally nothing has changed other then bad timing of a leak. If he loses focus in November every year and we keep going 0 and 3, that's a valid concern, but something a little different.

Speaking of this, just going off memory: what was been HF’s record after the last two times he was extended. Did we lose 3 in a row last year?, too?

[Purple Haize]

He saw the Social Media Posts. He knew the buzz. He needed to address it FIRST not wait for his players to approach him. That is if he wanted to be transparent

His press conference answers were absolutely BS. Someone should have asked if his lawyer had been negotiating with Auburn. Which would be different than ‘being offered’ or ‘signing a contract’.

He answered that by not acknowledging it. I’m not salty about anything he did or did not say. Social Media? Really?

He said he hasn’t been offered the job. What else can he say? He wasn’t asked if his agent or lawyers had been approached? And talking numbers does NOT equal being offered. I’ve been asked about numbers for anion without being offered it. “What would it take to get you here? Would ________ be enough?”

That’s not an offer.

I’m disappointed in the team’s performance the last 3 weeks. I don’t see an issue with the handling of the potential Auburn offer, EXCEPT how/if he allowed it to affect his preparation the last 3 weeks.

Yes Social Media. He’s all over Twitter. He knows what’s out there. ESPN was running with the story. He knew his kids knew. He needed to address it head on. If he wanted to be transparent

I agree he wasn’t ‘offered’ anything. That’s why I said the question should have been asked about negotiations.
He’s trying to speak as though Auburn and he or his representatives aren’t hip deep in negotiations.
What would I like him to have said-
“Yes I’ve seen those stories on Social Media and ESPN over the last 24 hours. It seems my name always comes up in these circumstances. I’ve always said it would take a Special Situation for me to leave here. Auburn would certainly fall into that category
But-
I have no interest in that position at this time And wish them All the best in their search
Or
I don’t know if they could make me an offer that would entice me to leave here or not. What I do know is that it would be a challenge there to get them to reach the goals they are looking towards achieving and I would be up for the challenge. I also know we have a lot of thing left to accomplish here on the Mountain and being a part of that would be a task I’d find equally as exciting. I don’t know what’s going to happen in the next 24-48 hours. But I do know I love my wife. I love the Lord and I love Liberty.

Next question

[jmclaughlin]

Slow down people. Almost every take on this is speculation. Sure the optics look fishy and Freeze should be more transparent but caution is warranted in coloring in the blanks. If you put stock in social media rumors or worse sports media siting “anonymous sources”, you will end up being duped most of the time.

Facts that would move me to pin Freeze on a wall would be if he had a sit down with Auburn brass in the past 3 weeks or if the offer had already landed in his lap. Again, that is unknown from all we know. If it has been Sexton playing chess, that is not out of bounds for the nature of sports agents in this climate. The timelines for coach searches is already corrupted.

Regardless, Freeze owes everyone full transparency, today!

[Purple Haize]

Agreed on JB. But again to HF’s credit, he never GAVE the job outright to anyone except Charlie at the beginning of the season coming out of Fall Camp. Seemed to me week by week it was always, “We’ll see who looks the best this week getting ready for____________.”

JB was solid. But he had plenty of his own terrible moments. Salter is the most talented with the most upside, but has no clues how to protect the ball. All things considered, the state of that QB room could’ve kept us at 5 wins. And once Dae Dae went down, they were all screwed. Didn’t matter who lined up behind center.

JB did nothing to get himself demoted. Salter and Brewer did nothing to earn the starting spot or backup spot once he season started ahead of him. Yes JB is solid. Not flashy, but gets the job done. He doesn’t have the ceiling Salter does but doesn’t have the floor as low either.
It seems he treats his QBS like a cog in the wheel as opposed to an individual. It’s a by product of Analytics, where if you do A then B happens. It’s one of the things I don’t like about it.

[stokesjokes]

They’re idiots if they didn’t anticipate social media backlash. They’re not gonna say “gee, people on Twitter don’t want him, maybe let’s not.” They know who he is and all of his baggage, they knew that weeks ago before they started talking to him.

Happened at Tennessee

If they saw it happen at Tennessee and still didn’t anticipate it, they’re even bigger idiots.

[Purple Haize]

Slow down people. Almost every take on this is speculation. Sure the optics look fishy and Freeze should be more transparent but caution is warranted in coloring in the blanks. If you put stock in social media rumors or worse sports media siting “anonymous sources”, you will end up being duped most of the time.

Facts that would move me to pin Freeze on a wall would be if he had a sit down with Auburn brass in the past 3 weeks or if the offer had already landed in his lap. Again, that is unknown from all we know. If it has been Sexton playing chess, that is not out of bounds for the nature of sports agents in this climate. The timelines for coach searches is already corrupted.

Regardless, Freeze owes everyone full transparency, today!

The offer is going to land with his agent first. Freeze has little to do with it. He’s certainly not having a sit down with anyone. His agent might have.

I’m not going to be surprised if Auburn pulls from the negotiations though. And if they don’t I’m not sure Freeze knows how hostile an environment he’s walking into. He might THINK he knows but Ole Miss and LU were nothing compared to what’s coming his way

[LU 57]

Well this is something…

[LU 57]

And this…

[Purple Haize]

The thought that IM would try to move on is an impossible notion, imo. IM already knows HF would take a top SEC job when or if it comes, that's the very reason they continue to extend him and do all they can for him to stay. So if he doesn't get the Auburn offer, literally nothing has changed other then bad timing of a leak. If he loses focus in November every year and we keep going 0 and 3, that's a valid concern, but something a little different.

I’m going to take a different look at it. If Auburn pulls from this and Hugh stays …that’s it. There are no other ‘Special’ jobs out there he’d be interested in that would be willing to hire him. He will always be a bridesmaid but never a Bride at that point.

[Liberty22]

Yea you would ‘think’ after this he’d be even more grateful for Liberty and try to build a contender with the expanded playoff. Recruit like you expect to make the playoffs and that you’re all in to try and win it and make history as a G5 contender. That would take years but you’d think the way LU has treated him vs these other offers that dematerialize that he falls in love with would play a factor. Time will tell.

[thepostman]

He also may want to resist the urge to DM random people on Twitter.

[Logic]

The thought that IM would try to move on is an impossible notion, imo. IM already knows HF would take a top SEC job when or if it comes, that's the very reason they continue to extend him and do all they can for him to stay. So if he doesn't get the Auburn offer, literally nothing has changed other then bad timing of a leak. If he loses focus in November every year and we keep going 0 and 3, that's a valid concern, but something a little different.

I’m going to take a different look at it. If Auburn pulls from this and Hugh stays …that’s it. There are no other ‘Special’ jobs out there he’d be interested in that would be willing to hire him. He will always be a bridesmaid but never a Bride at that point.

Yes, we may have the woke left Twitter mob to thank. He’s untouchable. He may be here for life after all. As we learned from Jerry Jones, the woke left Twitter mob has a long, long memory.

[stokesjokes]

So let me get this straight- Auburn successfully made themselves look like idiots by doing zero due diligence and also successfully torpedoed our season and our coach’s reputation and relationship with his team and recruits all in one fell swoop.

I’m honestly kind of impressed.

[Purple Haize]

So let me get this straight- Auburn successfully made themselves look like idiots by doing zero due diligence and also successfully torpedoed our season and our coach’s reputation and relationship with his team and recruits all in one fell swoop.

I’m honestly kind of impressed.

Never underestimate the incompetence of Auburn.
I’m sure Freeze will pass any due diligence. But he’s getting a look at the environment he WANTS to go in to.