If roundball is your blood, this is the place to discuss the Flames as they move into the Ritchie McKay era for the 2nd time.

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By Class of 20Something
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Welcome to Liberty Men's Basketball. We do this wild thing called defense.

Xavier's Ultimate Guide to the Packline Defense

What is a Packline?

It's an imaginary line 16' off the basket, mirroring the 3 point line.

Basic keys.

Packline is a man defense.

All off ball defenders will have both feet inside the Packline.

The on ball defender is extremely aggressive to the ball.

If the ball comes inside the Packline, that player is double teamed until the ball leaves the area around the basket.

When the ball carrier is inside the Packline and especially in the post, watch for defenders putting their hands up but being aggressive to the point of fouling with body checks. It's rarely called a foul, but is very identifiable in game.

Why?

We all understand that the closer you are to the basket, the better chance you have at making a shot. The Packline defends high percentage shots and let's opponents take better looks from low percentage positions.

Weakness?

High performances from 3.



Obviously the PDF is much more in depth and is available to you, but this is a beginners guide to understanding how and why the Packline works and when it won't.
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By Purple Haize
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There’s also a wholistic mentality to it that translates to the offensive end as well. What’s interesting is that it appears RMK is deviating a little from that side of the philosophy.
In short they want to slow the game way down. It’s frustrating as an opponent to have to run your offense deep into the shot clock and then turn around and have to defend for just about the entirety of the shot clock on the other end. It will force you to make bad decisions born of frustration. If you take a bad shot your not going to have a quick chance to make up for it so you will try to make up for it on defense, make another mistake...then they just keep multiplying.
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By thepostman
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It seem this year we are playing a little faster but we are picking out spots. There are times you can tell the players want to sprint down the court but they slow it down and almost lull the opposing team to sleep. I think adding elements of the old "Ritchie ball" into the packline approach really adds a dynamic to our team and keeps the opposing team off balance. Part of that is that we have so many shooters on our team now.

I love the packline and how much it frustrates other teams but if a team gets hot from 3, like @Class of 20Something mentioned, then watch out. It will be a long night for us.
By stokesjokes
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Having the ability to play fast and rack up points quickly may save us on some of those nights where the other team catches fire.
By olldflame
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Jonathan Carone wrote: December 4th, 2020, 11:31 am We shoot threes and layups. From an analytics standpoint, it's almost perfect.
You are correct in principle, and yet Keegan proved it never hurts to have an all around game when we were struggling early from 3 and he was able to take advantage of how fast they were closing out on him to leave them in the dust for 3 sweet mid-range jumpers. It ended up paying off later when they had to respect that and he got better looks from 3.

Just a small point of information for those who have just jumped on the McDowell band wagon. He has always been a solid defender. That was how he was able to earn meaningful minutes from day one as a true FR, as opposed to a more physically gifted player of similar size who preceded him.
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By stokesjokes
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olldflame wrote: December 4th, 2020, 12:00 pm
Jonathan Carone wrote: December 4th, 2020, 11:31 am We shoot threes and layups. From an analytics standpoint, it's almost perfect.
You are correct in principle, and yet Keegan proved it never hurts to have an all around game when we were struggling early from 3 and he was able to take advantage of how fast they were closing out on him to leave them in the dust for 3 sweet mid-range jumpers. It ended up paying off later when they had to respect that and he got better looks from 3.

Just a small point of information for those who have just jumped on the McDowell band wagon. He has always been a solid defender. That was how he was able to earn meaningful minutes from day one as a true FR, as opposed to a more physically gifted player of similar size who preceded him.
Keegan’s got really quick feet and active hands, he’s definitely an asset on defense. He’s got good size too, I often forget he’s as tall as he is.
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By Cider Jim
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20 Something, Xavier is probably a good source, but when I have questions about the Packline, I just ask Ballcoach. :oldhag
By JK37
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Cider Jim wrote: December 5th, 2020, 7:45 am 20 Something, Xavier is probably a good source, but when I have questions about the Packline, I just ask Ballcoach. :oldhag
God help you. I know he never coached it.
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote: December 5th, 2020, 7:56 am
Cider Jim wrote: December 5th, 2020, 7:45 am 20 Something, Xavier is probably a good source, but when I have questions about the Packline, I just ask Ballcoach. :oldhag
God help you. I know he never coached.
FIFY
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By Purple Haize
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JK37 wrote: December 5th, 2020, 1:39 pm Haha, I won’t go that far. He did coach something right? Or am I wrong?
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