[stokesjokes]

Here’s the comprehensive roundup of voter fraud:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... fraud-myth

Now, of course, that isn’t to say it couldn’t happen, but it never really has. Suggestions of it this year have pretty clearly been Trump hedging his bets in case it goes south for him, it’s never been based in actual evidence.

[stokesjokes]

I also think the Trump team thinks they will probably lose PA if all the votes are counted. Otherwise they wouldn’t be trying so hard to disenfranchise the voters.

[jbock13]

I also think the Trump team thinks they will probably lose PA if all the votes are counted. Otherwise they wouldn’t be trying so hard to disenfranchise the voters.

You should consider changing your profile name to CNN.

[stokesjokes]

Can I do that?

Ironically, I’ve been following it on Fox News’ website because I like their graphics

[paradox]

I also think the Trump team thinks they will probably lose PA if all the votes are counted. Otherwise they wouldn’t be trying so hard to disenfranchise the voters.

Inner city urban areas are breeding grounds for fraud. The people decrying voter suppression are the ones enabling and committing the crimes. And they do it all to advance themselves and their agendas. They could care less about the people.

[paradox]

Here’s the comprehensive roundup of voter fraud:

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/ ... fraud-myth

Now, of course, that isn’t to say it couldn’t happen, but it never really has. Suggestions of it this year have pretty clearly been Trump hedging his bets in case it goes south for him, it’s never been based in actual evidence.

That's like saying that there's no such thing as Teamsters, mobsters, clansmen, idealogues or corrupt politicians? The problem with these studies is that although they claim to be fact-based, they are seldom reality-based.

[stokesjokes]

I also think the Trump team thinks they will probably lose PA if all the votes are counted. Otherwise they wouldn’t be trying so hard to disenfranchise the voters.

Inner city urban areas are breeding grounds for fraud. The people decrying voter suppression are the ones enabling and committing the crimes. And they do it all to advance themselves and their agendas. They could care less about the people.

There’s absolutely no research on past elections that will bear this out. It’s irresponsible to parrot these talking points that have nothing behind them.

[Jonathan Carone]

We could be looking at a 270-268 split. If you’d put that much time energy and effort into something would you give up easily? Amazing to thing 1 vote in Maine and Nebraska could have been the difference

Both of them have an obligation to fight it to make sure every legal vote is counted correctly. There's been too much time and money invested to just accept what happens when it's this close and the margin of error is so small.

I just hate the way it's being fought. It's a race to the bottom to see which side can convince their base that the other is more corrupt and trying to steal it.

[rogers3]

Just think... If Trump didn't act like such a moron, he likely would have won in a landslide.
I can't believe that someone with so much upside could make such a fool of himself.

[paradox]

I also think the Trump team thinks they will probably lose PA if all the votes are counted. Otherwise they wouldn’t be trying so hard to disenfranchise the voters.

Inner city urban areas are breeding grounds for fraud. The people decrying voter suppression are the ones enabling and committing the crimes. And they do it all to advance themselves and their agendas. They could care less about the people.

There’s absolutely no research on past elections that will bear this out. It’s irresponsible to parrot these talking points that have nothing behind them.

Just google "indicted for voter fraud." 8 Million results. Numerous indictments this year. You can count them if you like. "Landslide Lyndon" is a well-known historical one--it started a corrupt career that eventually led to the presidency. Truth is stranger than fiction.

[stokesjokes]

One of the top results when I google that:
https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

Here’s the numbers: 1300 cases since 1982- again, this is a negligible amount. If this was all in a single state in a single election, it still wouldn’t make a difference. But this is spread across 38 years of all kinds of different elections in all states.

On another note, when I google “paradox is my best friend,” I get 42 million results, so you tell me if that’s a good metric to use

[SumItUp]

paradox is a popular guy

[paradox]

Ironically, I'm sitting here watching Shepard Smith on CNBC and he's convinced that AZ is in play.

[stokesjokes]

So the first Maricopa batch just dropped- 59% for Trump. If that holds for all remaining outstanding ballots in AZ, Trump ekes out the win there.

[JK37]

But his margin in PA is shrinking.

[stokesjokes]

Yeah, PA is starting to look an awful lot like MI. It's just a matter of how many votes are still out there in PA, because that gap will continue to shrink until they're done counting.

[Jonathan Carone]

This is not getting talked about because it ultimately doesn’t matter, but Biden is winning the popular vote by 3,428,266 votes. Republicans have now only won one popular vote (2004) since winning in 1988 yet they’re knocking on the door of their fourth term in the White House.

You’d think the Democratic Party would change up their tactics or platform after getting outplayed that often.

[SumItUp]

If you remove California, the Republicans lead the popular vote by half a million. It's really not a national story.

[puttincomputers]

So, Lynchburg went for Biden for the first time in 76 years. I saw something curious when I looked at LU's precinct. The totals were down by half. Is this because students simply didn't vote or is it because the population of LU is depleted this term due to concerns about covid? https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump- ... RY.twitter

Liberty University precinct.
Joseph R. Biden 117 8.55%
Donald J. Trump 1,197 87.50%
Jo Jorgensen 41 3.00%
Write-In 13 0.95%

For comparison, in 2016...
Clinton 140
Trump 2,739
Johnson 137
McMullin 156
Stein 4
Others 29

[thepostman]

So when do you all think the race will be called? Obviously whoever wins will be in for several weeks of challenges but those would probably just be semantics. I told my wife by the end of the week and she thought I was crazy. She is saying 2 weeks at least.

Thoughts?

[Purple Haize]

So when do you all think the race will be called? Obviously whoever wins will be in for several weeks of challenges but those would probably just be semantics. I told my wife by the end of the week and she thought I was crazy. She is saying 2 weeks at least.

Thoughts?

Sometime next week. The networks need to book their Sunday shows. Sure there will be law suits but a President Biden will all but be assured by Wednesday. Next you’ll hear about how Trump will have to be forcefully removed from the WH. Or he will declare Marshall Law or something.
The media is the biggest loser here. No one is going to pay attention to any thing Biden has to say

[Jonathan Carone]

If Nevada announces today that they've counted everything, then they could preliminarily call it today. That would put Biden over 270. The issue then becomes Arizona and if that flips away from what they've already called.

[thepostman]

I still can't believe Fox and the AP called Arizona so quickly. It very well may stick but that seemed way too gutsy for my liking. After all the things I read about how the big networks were planning on being careful on calling races and then they do that? Super odd.

Now, I don't think Arizona will flip but it will be much closer than it was that is for sure.

[stokesjokes]

I’m hearing vast majority of counting will be done by this weekend. Late arriving ballots at numbering in the low hundreds, so even though some localities will be “waiting” for more, we’ll basically have everything we need to know by tomorrow. I’d be shocked if the picture wasn’t clear by Saturday, other than the litigations, which aren’t likely to make a difference.

[stokesjokes]

So, Lynchburg went for Biden for the first time in 76 years. I saw something curious when I looked at LU's precinct. The totals were down by half. Is this because students simply didn't vote or is it because the population of LU is depleted this term due to concerns about covid? https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump- ... RY.twitter

Liberty University precinct.
Joseph R. Biden 117 8.55%
Donald J. Trump 1,197 87.50%
Jo Jorgensen 41 3.00%
Write-In 13 0.95%

For comparison, in 2016...
Clinton 140
Trump 2,739
Johnson 137
McMullin 156
Stein 4
Others 29

I don’t know how much you were around Liberty 4 years ago, but the push to vote was huge, spearheaded by Jr. This time around it didn’t really happen, I think the administration has had too many other things to worry about.

For instance: my wife said at the beginning of the semester they went through a rundown about how they were supposed to go over voter registration with the students in their classes, but they never ended up giving them the materials or hearing anything further about it when the time came.