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By RubberMallet
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"he's a 25-year-old who doesn't even have a community college degree. Even without the issues mentioned above, someone with those qualifications is not qualified to be a congressional leader. "
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By Jonathan Carone
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Even if he actually had a job - which he doesn’t - a 25-year-old doesn’t have the work experience needed to lead in government. If he had a degree or two and could show he’d researched or been trained in economics or government or anything then that can help negate the lack of work experience.
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By Purple Haize
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He was smart enough to get an appointment recommendation to the Naval Academy. He beat an entrenched incumbent. He sounded more coherent than several current serving House members. I don’t know much about him but your argument seems to boil down to he doesn’t have a degree and he’s too young.
By thepostman
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He also sounds more coherent then the 2 presidential candidates :D

I say this not knowing a dang thing about him other then listening to his speech from last night.
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By olldflame
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 27th, 2020, 3:59 pm AOC - not qualified! Just a waitress! Has no place in Congress!

Cawthorn - he’s smart! He sounds good! He can win!
AOC - Not smart. A commie.
Cawthorne - Smart. Not a commie.
Neither is the most highly qualified person in their district to represent it in the USHOR, but that's not how politics work.
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By RubberMallet
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College educations are mostly meaningless but there is value in some level of work as a substitute. But there are plenty of unqualified people who have lots of college and job history. I don't mind young people in congress. even if i disagree with you you likely have passion. these old fogies up there (avg age of congress is like 60) all need to go
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By Jonathan Carone
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RubberMallet wrote: August 27th, 2020, 4:56 pm I don't mind young people in congress. even if i disagree with you you likely have passion. these old fogies up there (avg age of congress is like 60) all need to go
I’m all for young people running for office but I think they need to have actually accomplished something first.

My NC Rep is 29 years old. He was actually appointed to the general assembly when he was either 24 or 25. The difference was he had a college degree and had experience working in government as Mark Walker’s comms director. He also worked in real estate but unlike Cawthorn, it looks like he actually worked.
By thepostman
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I was going to watch the President's acceptance speech from last night and see it is 70 minutes long!!??? I don't have time for that, someone give me the cliff notes! :lol:
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By RubberMallet
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i turned on bloomberg to watch market news, and it was still going on. 2 things :

1) it was much different than his rallies, it was more polished if that makes sense. in word and in way words were said

2) i watched the remainder of it just like, this guy is our president
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By Jonathan Carone
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And she's on the far left fringe of the political spectrum. It's dangerous out there. Just as it's dangerous for some of the far right fringes who are currently serving in government. Just because they got elected doesn't mean they aren't on the fringe.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:10 pm And she's on the far left fringe of the political spectrum. It's dangerous out there. Just as it's dangerous for some of the far right fringes who are currently serving in government. Just because they got elected doesn't mean they aren't on the fringe.
For emphasis Speaker of the House. That’s a position that gets voted in by Party members. That’s not fringe at all. Some of the others, but not all, sure fringe. Speaker of the House? Nope. The Face of the Democrats in The House. Pretty mainstream
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By Jonathan Carone
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You can be mainstream and be on the fringe. Pelosi was named Democratic House leader in 2005. She wasn't what she has become today. She was liberal at the time but not militant like the fringes on both sides are now (and like she is now). The attitudes have changed. It's not about doing what's best or figuring things out. It's about winning and killing your opponent look.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:22 pm You can be mainstream and be on the fringe. Pelosi was named Democratic House leader in 2005. She wasn't what she has become today. She was liberal at the time but not militant like the fringes on both sides are now (and like she is now). The attitudes have changed. It's not about doing what's best or figuring things out. It's about winning and killing your opponent look.
You get an A for effort on this one. She runs a tight ship on House Democrats. She’s two heartbeats away from being POTUS. To have the Speaker make those comments are absurd. To say she’s not mainstream in her Party is also absurd
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By RubberMallet
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Jonathan Carone wrote:
SumItUp wrote: August 31st, 2020, 1:31 pm
That's disgusting.

The fringes are so freaking dangerous. They're why we're in this mess.
Purple Haize wrote:Fringes? That’s the Speaker of the House!
HAHA that was the first thing that popped into my head. their policies are hardly fringe, the only thing that has moved to "fridge" is their "TDS" as the fellow kids like to call it.
By thepostman
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Purple Haize wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:26 pm
Jonathan Carone wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:22 pm You can be mainstream and be on the fringe. Pelosi was named Democratic House leader in 2005. She wasn't what she has become today. She was liberal at the time but not militant like the fringes on both sides are now (and like she is now). The attitudes have changed. It's not about doing what's best or figuring things out. It's about winning and killing your opponent look.
You get an A for effort on this one. She runs a tight ship on House Democrats. She’s two heartbeats away from being POTUS. To have the Speaker make those comments are absurd. To say she’s not mainstream in her Party is also absurd
Should I put up a video with all the times the actual POTUS said people needed to be punched right in the face and roughed up??? Because it wouldn't be hard, but it is also pointless.

I get your point but it is absurd that any of this rhetoric is being ignored. Her's is insane and his is insane. Our politicians are just insane and we are insane for allowing it.

United States of Insanity.
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By Jonathan Carone
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Purple Haize wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:26 pm
Jonathan Carone wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:22 pm You can be mainstream and be on the fringe. Pelosi was named Democratic House leader in 2005. She wasn't what she has become today. She was liberal at the time but not militant like the fringes on both sides are now (and like she is now). The attitudes have changed. It's not about doing what's best or figuring things out. It's about winning and killing your opponent look.
You get an A for effort on this one. She runs a tight ship on House Democrats. She’s two heartbeats away from being POTUS. To have the Speaker make those comments are absurd. To say she’s not mainstream in her Party is also absurd
I think our disagreement here is semantics. Pelosi is absolutely mainstream in her party. I think her policies and actions in recent years line up more with what were the fringes of the Democratic Party. In the past 12 years, the party has accepted and become many of the things that used to only live on the fringes and they've brought that into the mainstream.

The Democratic Party of 2020 is not classic liberalism. The majority is the next step left from classic liberalism with a large influence of Democratic Socialism coming in from the edges. They have made the fringes mainstream.

The Republican Party has done the exact same thing on the opposite end of the spectrum.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:47 pm
Purple Haize wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:26 pm
Jonathan Carone wrote: August 31st, 2020, 2:22 pm You can be mainstream and be on the fringe. Pelosi was named Democratic House leader in 2005. She wasn't what she has become today. She was liberal at the time but not militant like the fringes on both sides are now (and like she is now). The attitudes have changed. It's not about doing what's best or figuring things out. It's about winning and killing your opponent look.
You get an A for effort on this one. She runs a tight ship on House Democrats. She’s two heartbeats away from being POTUS. To have the Speaker make those comments are absurd. To say she’s not mainstream in her Party is also absurd
Should I put up a video with all the times the actual POTUS said people needed to be punched right in the face and roughed up??? Because it wouldn't be hard, but it is also pointless.

I get your point but it is absurd that any of this rhetoric is being ignored. Her's is insane and his is insane. Our politicians are just insane and we are insane for allowing it.

United States of Insanity.
Yes. Please do. You will clearly see he’s speaking in either hyperbole or joking. Nancy and the people in this clip were balls on serious
By thepostman
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Ok man, drink that Kool Aid. Joking/hyperbole or not, his words have power and he is just as responsible for division in this country as the left.
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