[Purple Haize]

I just pulled up the list of BoT. (as has been posted somewhere on here, there's a lot of them.) All have terms that expire within the next 2 years. November seems to be the magic month for terms to expire. There's some really good people on there, thus no need to "clean house".
( I meet a couple of them earlier this year, while on a campus visit.)

You can be a good person and horrible at your job.
Of course, since you don’t think Junior did anything wrong I can see why you would not think the BoT needs overhauled. BUT since they did get rid of him shouldn’t you be upset that they acted wrongly? Thus grounds for replacement? It’s a very convoluted path you walk

[olldflame]

When are you going to admit that TF is the reason you don't want there to be a huge change over? I would imagine anybody with the Falwell last name is a bit on edge but that is no reason not to do an investigation.

Maybe your personal relationships are clouding your judgement. Just admit that and I think we could all understand that.

But, protecting people due to personal relationships is what has gotten us here.

TF will be fine. Pretty sure he does not need to work at this point in his life. He does it because he wants to. I'm sure he gets paid for his job at the welcome center giving tours of the campus, but considering he is probably on social security, I doubt if he is making an exorbitant amount, if nothing else for tax reasons, and it's hard to imagine anyone better qualified to do it..

[ballcoach15]

When are you going to admit that TF is the reason you don't want there to be a huge change over? I would imagine anybody with the Falwell last name is a bit on edge but that is no reason not to do an investigation.

Maybe your personal relationships are clouding your judgement. Just admit that and I think we could all understand that.

But, protecting people due to personal relationships is what has gotten us here.

That is so far "off base", if it were baseball, the pitcher could lob ball and pick you off.

[Purple Haize]

When are you going to admit that TF is the reason you don't want there to be a huge change over? I would imagine anybody with the Falwell last name is a bit on edge but that is no reason not to do an investigation.

Maybe your personal relationships are clouding your judgement. Just admit that and I think we could all understand that.

But, protecting people due to personal relationships is what has gotten us here.

That is so far "off base", if it were baseball, the pitcher could lob ball and pick you off.

If he’s so far off base, and the pitcher lobs the ball, why wouldn’t he just steal the next base and be safe?

[thepostman]

When are you going to admit that TF is the reason you don't want there to be a huge change over? I would imagine anybody with the Falwell last name is a bit on edge but that is no reason not to do an investigation.

Maybe your personal relationships are clouding your judgement. Just admit that and I think we could all understand that.

But, protecting people due to personal relationships is what has gotten us here.

TF will be fine. Pretty sure he does not need to work at this point in his life. He does it because he wants to. I'm sure he gets paid for his job at the welcome center giving tours of the campus, but considering he is probably on social security, I doubt if he is making an exorbitant amount, if nothing else for tax reasons, and it's hard to imagine anyone better qualified to do it..

That is true. Since BC gets most of his info from TF, it is hard not to assume that he is just repeating things he is told by TF and I just don't think TF is an unbiased source on any of the current going ons at Liberty.

And for the life of me, I can't understand why anybody would be against an independent investigation. It seems like a given to me.

[Purple Haize]

If you don’t believe Junior, The BoT or LU did anything wrong then why would you want an investigation? From ballcoach’s point of view I get it.

[thepostman]

Yeah, that is true BUT he did say that was before Jr was removed and not it seems he has changed his tune a bit on Jr. So if he has changed his tune on that then it must be because he was wrong on Jr so if he was wrong on one thing then it isn't a leap to assume he is wrong on the BoT. It beating a dead horse at this point . Slow news days I guess

[ballcoach15]

If an investigator were appointed, he/she would have to be vetted more than a potential coach. Not only vetted, but a DOD top level type background check.

[thepostman]

Was that kind of vetting completed on the acting President?

[Sly Fox]

You guys are wearing me out piling on ballcoach. We get it. He has adjusted his opinions based on developing info. And for the record, bringing his friend into the discussion is a bit much. We can have dialogue without things getting so personal.

[ballcoach15]

Was that kind of vetting completed on the acting President?

No, nor was it needed.

[Purple Haize]

You guys are wearing me out piling on ballcoach. We get it. He has adjusted his opinions based on developing info. And for the record, bringing his friend into the discussion is a bit much. We can have dialogue without things getting so personal.

Has he adjusted his position? He made one statement saying something about “before the allegations But has never really clarified since. We know he doesn’t like Nasser but no one knows why outside of joking about his wardrobe. He won’t answer any direct question with any type of answer outside of “I not put writing” It’s a bunch of lame excuses. It’s not piling on it’s his dodging of responsibility

[Purple Haize]

Was that kind of vetting completed on the acting President?

No, nor was it needed.

Why not?

(See Sly. Here he makes a claim with no other explanation. I am asking for clarification. This would be avoided if he actually made his case instead of this vague statement. Let’s see what type of answer we get)

[thepostman]

You guys are wearing me out piling on ballcoach. We get it. He has adjusted his opinions based on developing info. And for the record, bringing his friend into the discussion is a bit much. We can have dialogue without things getting so personal.

Agreed. Sorry about that. I just can't stand inconsistencies and am trying to find some kind of explanation but I'll go back to just ignoring it.

[NeoFlame]

To be fair to Ballcoach -- Jr told anyone who reached out to him checking on his wellbeing that he would be back in 6 months. That's why I posted what I did as well. I was also wrong. When you hear the same explanation and timeframe from 3 or 4 others who talk to him regularly it would be hard to not believe it. Looking back it is insane to to think he'd return -- however with the limited amount of facts at that time it wasn't too difficult to side with Jr's opinion he would return as President.

Now -- if you still live in denial and believe an independent investigation shouldn't happen then I don't know what to tell you. Get rid of the power hungry, greedy, enablers, and fakes that are still walking around the campus. I don't care if it is the BOT or staff.

[paradox]

....
Whatever gets done. Let's hope that cooler heads prevail. Would hate to see this thing descend into a Salem-like hysteria. We already have a former prof tweeting exasperating things like, "heaping coals of shame" and "in love and grace, please defund"

[Purple Haize]

To be fair to Ballcoach -- Jr told anyone who reached out to him checking on his wellbeing that he would be back in 6 months. That's why I posted what I did as well. I was also wrong. When you hear the same explanation and timeframe from 3 or 4 others who talk to him regularly it would be hard to not believe it. Looking back it is insane to to think he'd return -- however with the limited amount of facts at that time it wasn't too difficult to side with Jr's opinion he would return as President.

Now -- if you still live in denial and believe an independent investigation shouldn't happen then I don't know what to tell you. Get rid of the power hungry, greedy, enablers, and fakes that are still walking around the campus. I don't care if it is the BOT or staff.

Now this is a good explanation. While I thought it was crazy to think he’d be back in 6 months I can see where you would. You also didn’t keep doubling down or giving vague responses.
This is what responsible message boarding looks like

[thepostman]

....
Whatever gets done. Let's hope that cooler heads prevail. Would hate to see this thing descend into a Salem-like hysteria. We already have a former prof tweeting exasperating things like, "heaping coals of shame" and "in love and grace, please defund"

Was that in regards to the Falkirk Center? I kind of agree to an extent. Or at the very least a name change is in order. From my understanding Jr and Kirk aren't even involved with it anymore so a name change makes a ton of sense.

But I do tend to agree. I may think everybody needs to go, but I don't think it is needed before an independent investigation is completed. The call to just outright fire everybody is a bit pre-mature. If the investigation is conducted as I hope it will be, we will have to respect those findings.

Of course, I am doubtful an investigation will be conducted because I am fairly certain a lot of board members know they would be out and so would some of their friends.

So I guess the next best thing is to hope for the best.

[flameshaw]

Will try to summarize my comments about several posts above.
1. TF doesn't need the money. He is one of the kindest men I have ever met. He does a LOT of things for people, most know nothing about. If anyone deserves to make $400K a year, it is him. There is not a better ambassador for LU in the country.
2. The BOT's don't need the money either. Most of them are well off financially. I think most are interested in what is best for LU. Yes, some failed in their oversight of things. However, I can understand them placing a lot of trust in JJ, based on the fact that they trusted Doc and didn't get bit.
3. With most serving two year terms, there will be a chance for significant turnover, naturally. In the event that there is wrong-doing found in an investigation, then the member(s) in question can be dealt with at that time, with factual information. IMHO, a few of them deserve it, if what I hear is true.
4. Leave ballcoach alone, it is getting old. He is not intentionally spreading incorrect information. He also has an opinion, like most of us. We all have the freedom to express our views. The microscopic, nit-picking, of every sentence he writes is sophomoric, imho. He is one of us, he loves LU and softball. I wouldn't go to a softball game, if I was paid. But hey, it is his thing, that is ok.
5." Come on man"

[Jonathan Carone]

I'll all for the Falkirk Center going bye bye. If we can get ourselves centered around Jesus and not politics again then maybe we can bring a similar thing back in the future, but we've got to rediscover our first love before we do anything like that.

[Sly Fox]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Liberty University is opening an independent investigation into Jerry Falwell Jr.’s tenure as president, a wide-ranging inquiry that will include financial, real estate and legal matters, the evangelical school’s board announced Monday.

In a statement, the board said it had retained an outside firm to investigate “all facets” of the school’s operations under Falwell, and that it was “committed to learning the consequences that have flowed from a lack of spiritual stewardship by our former president.”

Click Here for Full Story

And here is the quote from JLFJR and his wife:

The couple said in a statement provided to The Associated Press late Sunday that they support Liberty’s board and “welcome any inquiry as we have nothing to hide.”

[thepostman]

That is fantastic news! It might not be fun but it exactly what needs to happen

[olldflame]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Liberty University is opening an independent investigation into Jerry Falwell Jr.’s tenure as president, a wide-ranging inquiry that will include financial, real estate and legal matters, the evangelical school’s board announced Monday.

In a statement, the board said it had retained an outside firm to investigate “all facets” of the school’s operations under Falwell, and that it was “committed to learning the consequences that have flowed from a lack of spiritual stewardship by our former president.”

Click Here for Full Story

And here is the quote from JLFJR and his wife:

The couple said in a statement provided to The Associated Press late Sunday that they support Liberty’s board and “welcome any inquiry as we have nothing to hide.”

"Be careful what you ask for, you might get it" Our football coach knows the truth of this saying, which has been often repeated and dates back to Aesop's Fables in 260 BC.

[bluedevilflame]

Strap in people, it's going to be a bumpy ride once this investigation gets underway.

[flameshaw]

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Liberty University is opening an independent investigation into Jerry Falwell Jr.’s tenure as president, a wide-ranging inquiry that will include financial, real estate and legal matters, the evangelical school’s board announced Monday.

In a statement, the board said it had retained an outside firm to investigate “all facets” of the school’s operations under Falwell, and that it was “committed to learning the consequences that have flowed from a lack of spiritual stewardship by our former president.”

Click Here for Full Story

And here is the quote from JLFJR and his wife:

The couple said in a statement provided to The Associated Press late Sunday that they support Liberty’s board and “welcome any inquiry as we have nothing to hide.”

Hard to believe that JJ is still denying any culpability in this whole thing. WOW