[olldflame]

80% of this age group is asymptomatic anyway. I was under the impression that it could be detected in the first day or so for anyone tested.

I don't know the details of what Liberty is doing as far as testing students, but I would imagine if there was mass asymptomatic testing, it was done on arrival. Subsequently, there would be no reason to test anyone again this soon unless they had some sort of symptom, which would strongly point to those who are currently quarantined having been infected before arrival.

[Jonathan Carone]

They could also be testing and/or quarantining people in close contact with the positive tests.

[olldflame]

They could also be testing and/or quarantining people in close contact with the positive tests.

Quite possible. If so, I would hope those who are being quarantined based only on contact, who have not tested positive, are in a separate location. They could then be tested after a few days and "released" if they are negative.

[olldflame]

[Jonathan Carone]

The problem with that on its own is 40% of American adults are obese and 33% have high blood pressure.

[Purple Haize]

I was looking for that to post. Thank you. I brought this fact up several weeks ago. There needs to be a differentiation between FROM and WITH At this point extending Emergency Powers or Mandates because of The Rona is for pure political reasons

[Class of 20Something]

Forget the 6% thing. 330 of the 161k were under the age of 24?

This is dumb.

[olldflame]

Forget the 6% thing. 330 of the 161k were under the age of 24?

This is dumb.

And it's a virtual certainty that most of those 330 had SERIOUS preexisting conditions, not just obesity or hypertension. We're talking things like diabetes and immune system problems, which exponentially increase the risk of death or serious illness from covid..

[thepostman]

I mean this has been politicized to the point where some people essentially dismiss it all together and some people make it seem like a death sentence. This has been talked about on here ad nauseam and even if we all see things a bit differently, that is probably one thing we can agree with.

The most interesting thing to me will be the studies that are sure to come about long lasting side effects but until the election is over, it is hard to take much seriously.

Also, these stats have been on the CDC's website since June I believe.

[stokesjokes]

Quick reminder via https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm, we've had 183,392 excess deaths in the US so far this year.

My nursing professor wife just went on a rant and offered everyone to audit her pathophysiology class if anyone wants to learn how comorbidities work

[stokesjokes]

The problem with that on its own is 40% of American adults are obese and 33% have high blood pressure.

A quick google search says 45% of all Americans have a chronic health condition. So 1 out of 2 people that you spread COVID to would be in that "94% of all deaths" category.

[Purple Haize]

Quick reminder via https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm, we've had 183,392 excess deaths in the US so far this year.

My nursing professor wife just went on a rant and offered everyone to audit her pathophysiology class if anyone wants to learn how comorbidities work

I’ve got about a dozen MD’s DO’ PA’ and NP’s who first pointed out the with/from difference. I think they all took pathology classes. Definitely sure they know how comorbidities work.

[olldflame]

Trying to find the best existing thread to put this question, and I guess this is as good as any. Does anyone know how many students Liberty has on campus right now?

[Class of 20Something]

Quick reminder via https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm, we've had 183,392 excess deaths in the US so far this year.

My nursing professor wife just went on a rant and offered everyone to audit her pathophysiology class if anyone wants to learn how comorbidities work

Since you seem to enjoy data like me; could you shed some light on why we've been in a pandemic of pnemonia for almost 12 months? Pnemonia isn't contagious like flu, cold, or CoVID.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/111 ... nd-flu-us/

[stokesjokes]

Quick reminder via https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm, we've had 183,392 excess deaths in the US so far this year.

My nursing professor wife just went on a rant and offered everyone to audit her pathophysiology class if anyone wants to learn how comorbidities work

Since you seem to enjoy data like me; could you shed some light on why we've been in a pandemic of pnemonia for almost 12 months? Pnemonia isn't contagious like flu, cold, or CoVID.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/111 ... nd-flu-us/

Sure, pneumonia happens often as a secondary infection. This is one of those comorbidity areas. Usually you’ll see someone treated for something like bronchitis that develops into pneumonia. Many of those infected with COVID are also developing pneumonia, so we are seeing a spike in pneumonia cases secondary to COVID cases.

[Purple Haize]

Quick reminder via https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covi ... deaths.htm, we've had 183,392 excess deaths in the US so far this year.

My nursing professor wife just went on a rant and offered everyone to audit her pathophysiology class if anyone wants to learn how comorbidities work

Since you seem to enjoy data like me; could you shed some light on why we've been in a pandemic of pnemonia for almost 12 months? Pnemonia isn't contagious like flu, cold, or CoVID.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/111 ... nd-flu-us/

Sure, pneumonia happens often as a secondary infection. This is one of those comorbidity areas. Usually you’ll see someone treated for something like bronchitis that develops into pneumonia. Many of those infected with COVID are also developing pneumonia, so we are seeing a spike in pneumonia cases secondary to COVID cases.

Pneumonia and Influenza are counted in this FROM Covid number if you read the fine print of table 1. ( I’m not astute enough to post screenshots on this site

“Table 1. Deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), pneumonia, and influenza reported to NCHS by sex and age group. United States. Week ending 2/1/2020 to 8/22/2020”

[Sly Fox]

It seems like all of my 40+ friends and relatives with COVID-19 are developing pneumonia. It likely was a contributing factor in my father-in-law's sudden passing last month where respiratory distress was lusted as cause of death with COVID-19 as a contributing factor. I am thankful neither my wife nor I needed to be hospitalized for pneumonia in spite of the fact that we both felt its impact.

[stokesjokes]

This table is a little confusing, it says “pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza”, it seems like the total listed pneumonia deaths includes the COVID deaths too, but not flu deaths. So pneumonia deaths without COVID would be 97,564, significantly higher than the usual 57,688 deaths (I could only find this figure as flu and pneumonia combined, so even more of a jump from pneumonia deaths without flu). What this suggests, barring some other unknown public health crisis, is that there’s a huge number of “pneumonia deaths” where COVID was probably a contributor, it just wasn’t tested for.

[Jonathan Carone]

My brother is actually in the hospital right now for pneumonia. Covid test came back negative. They're not sure how long it's been brewing or what caused it.

[Purple Haize]

This table is a little confusing, it says “pneumonia death counts exclude pneumonia deaths involving influenza”, it seems like the total listed pneumonia deaths includes the COVID deaths too, but not flu deaths. So pneumonia deaths without COVID would be 97,564, significantly higher than the usual 57,688 deaths (I could only find this figure as flu and pneumonia combined, so even more of a jump from pneumonia deaths without flu). What this suggests, barring some other unknown public health crisis, is that there’s a huge number of “pneumonia deaths” where COVID was probably a contributor, it just wasn’t tested for.

Yeah, it’s a crazy difficult chart to follow. I’ve gone through a couple bouts of Pneumonia. Have the cracked ribs and scars on my lungs to prove it One bout was not flu related which was different and lasted longer.
I *think* what this chart is trying to show is the number of relatively healthy people who contracted The Rona which then morphed into Pneumonia and eventually death. As opposed to someone with say emphysema then The Rona Athens death. Or liver cancer, tested positive for The Rona and then death.
At least that’s how it was explained to me.

[Purple Haize]

My brother is actually in the hospital right now for pneumonia. Covid test came back negative. They're not sure how long it's been brewing or what caused it.

Ugh. That’s no joke. Best thoughts and wishes to him!

[RubberMallet]

we have a child who gets pneumonia every time she gets a cold. they determined she had tongue tie all this time and basically was a mouth breather and because of that her "filters" in her nasal passages were not getting used and she was more susceptible. we fixed this issue and got her therapy. she's now had 2 colds this past year with no pneumonia.

[Jonathan Carone]

This is a good explanation of the 6% and with vs of discussion. He's sympathetic to people who are against the lockdowns and masks and all the negative around that, but talks about how people have misread or distorted the data in the CDC report. He even says how dumb it was for Twitter to delete the president's tweet about it.

[Purple Haize]

That guys about as credible as those Plandemic folks. I’ll pass on his explanation

[cruzan_flame13]

Any virus can be killed in heat or could be shot in cold(that's why we wash our clothes in hot water because to kills germs). The fact that they say that a virus can survive outside of a hold for 4-5 days, then why hasn't everyone in world right now have AIDs? The virus will decimate as soon as it hits air, heat, chemicals, ice but some how not covid. We are being played and it's crazy that this is still discussed by experts that are backed by VAX manufacturers. By the way, these manufacturers are receiving amnesty (national childhood vaccine injury act and HHS Secretary Azar's declaration). It's all about money and control; promoting fear can help anyone receive both. But some how it's insane to approach this disvussion thid way because the Healthcare administration says otherwise? This is ridiculous; we should still be in the bubonic era right now(and people weren't even as sanitary like we are now). Fungus though can live on and grow. This isn't a fungus. This is just a cover up for something else. I know that folks think the 5G discussion is a joke but a lot of these towers are coming up and being deployed(since most streets are either empty or less busy). This will bring radiation which causes flu like symptoms(why a lot of people think that they have covid) and even cancer and leukemia. One can't go outside and and ketch a virus; has to come from an infected person's body fluids which will have to get inside of someone else (kissing is a way to transfer a virus). BTW I'm not some MAGA 4 life individual as some would say.

P.S. Also, bleach,vinegar and peroxide kills any disease; man made disease can be reversed. Have a high immune system as well (which is an issue in the U.S.). We've had more deaths in the U.S. in the past three years than this year. Yet these wicked people have destroyed millions of Americans livelihood and pointing fingers.