[BlueBlood]

The issue is that you have a mix of both.

As thepostman suggested - an independent review should be able to differentiate between the two.

[ballcoach15]

Excellent post TH.

[olldflame]

Regardless of what ultimately happens with JLFJR, I think it would be an overreach to automatically say anyone working for the school who is related to him would need to be dismissed. Some of those people have been quietly doing good work for a long time and really have no significant control over the direction of the university.

Agree with you and thepostman.

I had no idea how many relatives, in-laws and friends were employed At LU until recently. If they are doing good work at a fair wage, I have no problem with that at all.

However, if any “created” positions with excessive salaries exist - where the primary goal appears to be transferring LU wealth to friends and family, that is obviously unacceptable.

The issue is that you have a mix of both.

Unique concept in these identitarian tribal times, but I say treat them as individuals.

[thepostman]

From my perch, as an outsider just reading this stuff. I get the impression a few here are mad because Jerry controls the purse strings and you feel short changed. A few have some kind of typical employment grievance. One or two a personality conflict over some silly issue that happen while you were in school or something similar. Basically an axe to grind.

JR has made your mission alittle easier lately. As far as the speculation and accusations being tossed around here, we don't know what Jr has agreed to confront. He's getting older and has had medical issues. Could be prescription meds, could be alcohol, could be a mix. We have no idea.

I would give anyone of you 6 months to right yourself before I fired you . If we didn't work with people we wouldn't have one of the best AD's and football coach in the country. This will be my last post on it until we know the real deal.

Ton of assuming here and you know what they say about assuming.....

Any good organization has checks and balances. Without that, human nature takes over.

My concern has always been with the mission. When the man at the top says that he is not concerned about the spiritual well-being of the CHRISTIAN university because it isnt his responsibility then clearly there is a problem.

It is mind-blowing that there is any debate on this. These kinds of attitudes are why we ever got to the place where a Christian leader felt it was OK to post a picture with his pants unbuttoned.

Unbelievable.

[ballcoach15]

Can anyone tell me why Becki needs an "assistant " ?

[JK37]

Let’s not be rude. She has a name.

[thepostman]

I don't feel comfortable talking about her on here. She didn't ask for this and has been embarrassed enough.

[Purple Haize]

Can anyone tell me why Becki needs an "assistant " ?

Ask your #sources

[flamehunter]

Can anyone tell me why Becki needs an "assistant " ?

I know the answer but can you tell me why Becki has the position she does with the university? What is her job anyway? What does she get paid?
As someone else said, the nepotism is what you expect in a small family run business, not an organization the size of Liberty.

[rhezick]

Can anyone tell me why Becki needs an "assistant " ?

I know the answer but can you tell me why Becki has the position she does with the university? What is her job anyway? What does she get paid?
As someone else said, the nepotism is what you expect in a small family run business, not an organization the size of Liberty.

This right here. I'm sorry but all this debate about Jerry should end with the fact that there is no objective rationale to why this has turned into a monarchy. Look even Jr getting this job, regardless of qualifications, is pushing the nepotism angle. The fact that Trey is supposedly being groomed, that Becky is being paid, that others related are in leadership positions is idiotic. This isnt Jerry & son's, a local hardware repair shop. If it was, fine. Totally makes sense. This is a non profit which technically means the board should have total control ( and...I dunno...grow a spine and act like it). And this monarchy needs to end. I liked the Doug Collins analogy from earlier. Has Jerry down some great things? Yep. Do we need to move on from the Falwells? YES!!!

[chris leedlelee]

If I am on the Bored of Directors, here is what I would do, if the people were interested.

President: Condi Rice. First she is immanently qualified, loves sports and is a great speaker and organizer. (In addition, and really of no practical importance, she would make the white-privileged, political identity, snowflake, racist feel good. After all it is all about ones little feelings now days isn't it? )

Wasn't Ms. Rice a part of the board of governors of the NCAA at one time?

She was on college football playoff selection committee.

Good way to sneak Liberty into the CFP

[LUconn]

Another long term problem/question is how many of these shenanigans actually did get board approval? If I recall, (and it is just from memory) the crosswhite deal, and the trey house/farm deal got approval despite them clearly being Sweetheart deals. So he can just say "they approved it" to at least some shady things.

[thepostman]

@LUconn yep, and that is why an independent investigation is so important but it is also the reason why I don't think it happens.

[Just John]

https://theresurgent.com/2020/08/07/fal ... -biblical/

Walker is a former pastor, and he highlights his close involvement with Liberty in making his appeal. For a biblically-oriented Christian organization, those roles would be hugely important. But it is his political position, vice chair of the House Republican Conference, that publications like Politico prioritize when discussing the statement, and they are correct to do so. Because his political role is the only role that matters.

Falwell’s position is strictly a political one. He is neither particularly godly nor particularly spiritual. He gained his position due to his kinship with the founder, his father and namesake. He maintains his position due to his influence with a politician, the President of the United States. His social media accounts promote political causes rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ. His personal behavior is consistent with that of a godless power-broker rather than a spiritual leader.

For perspective, this was from a conservative, Trump leaning site, written after the posting of "the (latest) picture" but just prior to the "agreement" which was subsequently updated.

The most interesting part of this piece was that it likely took a statement from Congressman Walker, as a political figure, to spur the action of the board instead of the many statements from spiritual individuals made prior. We may never know for sure but we know that significant problems existed long before "the picture". Just another example of why steering clear of "politics first" is crucial. It needs to be farther down the list.

[Sly Fox]

Things are great. My wife beat Pancreatic Cancer which is like winning the Lotto.

Woah! That is phenomenal and even better than a Lotto ticket! I lost my grandmother to pancreatic cancer while I was a student at Liberty and as a result it has always had my attention.

[jinxy]

One forgotten piece to all this is jrs impact on athletics. From what i hear hes pretty popular among the head coaches because of his continued backing of the programs specifically with resources and pay. So many are thirsty for the typical academic only president but those types rarely do what jr did for athletics.

Im not implying its of the most important things to look at in whether to keep jr or not but or in finding the potential replacement. However, athletics are at a critical state specifically football mbb baseball softball (wbb is a bit stagnant). The $ decisions probably dont show yet on paper that you should extend freeze jackson and mckay when others come calling but the potential is there to blow the doors off all 4 sports.

All im saying is i hope we dont lose all weve gained (assuming we can still afford it in athletics).

[ballcoach15]

One forgotten piece to all this is jrs impact on athletics. From what i hear hes pretty popular among the head coaches because of his continued backing of the programs specifically with resources and pay. So many are thirsty for the typical academic only president but those types rarely do what jr did for athletics.

Im not implying its of the most important things to look at in whether to keep jr or not but or in finding the potential replacement. However, athletics are at a critical state specifically football mbb baseball softball (wbb is a bit stagnant). The $ decisions probably dont show yet on paper that you should extend freeze jackson and mckay when others come calling but the potential is there to blow the doors off all 4 sports.

All im saying is i hope we dont lose all weve gained (assuming we can still afford it in athletics).

Good post jinxy.

[olldflame]

Basically all the expensive stuff involving facilities is done now. Further expansion of the Bill will be driven by demand. As far as coaches compensation being somewhat above market for our level is concerned, a new president might not like it a lot, but the die has pretty much been cast there too.

[Sly Fox]

I agree completely with Olldflame. And then you factor in that the facilities arms race outside of P5 is likely to be stunted for years to come as a result of this pandemic. Athletics has already been positioned for success. I think head coach compensation will defensible for the comping years. However "overpaying" assistants will be tougher to justify under economic conditions.

Back on topic, can we expect an announcement of an interim today? I would assume a Zoom call could get Borek or whomever they choose in action post haste. The academic year does begin fairly quickly. I check my son into the dorms for his freshman year of college today.

[Purple Haize]

Borek? Hope LU still has good lawyers

[ALUmnus]

LU has always had a culture of celebrity worship, I really hope that doesn't influence who is named the next president. "They have a BIG name" is not how you hire the president of a university, if we're a serious institution.

Does anyone know where the heck you can find the university's bylaws? I can't find them online. If anyone can, please post a link.

[Sly Fox]

There seems to be a consensus developing around him being the caretaker for now. I don't know anyone who is enthusiastic about the concept.

[olldflame]

Borek? Hope LU still has good lawyers

Don't know how good they are, but apparently they are "mean".

[Sly Fox]

LU has always had a culture of celebrity worship, I really hope that doesn't influence who is named the next president. "They have a BIG name" is not how you hire the president of a university, if we're a serious institution.

If the big name brings legitimate credentials that would have the cachet to significantly influence the culture and direction academically & spiritually, then I think you look at them closely right now.

I am not sure that by-laws are top of mind for those currently making decisions. This has always been a chancellor-led school since its founding. This is a unique moment in the school's history where past mindsets are not necessarily applicable. I am really curious to see what path they take.

[olldflame]

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