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By jcmanson
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Jonathan Carone wrote: May 29th, 2020, 9:01 am
This almost looks staged to me. Look at 1:18 of the video. One cop is holding him by the left arm while another cop stands over his right shoulder. Then all of a sudden they say he's under arrest. Looks fishy.
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By thepostman
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There are police reports so I'm not sure why the police would go to all that trouble to help CNN stage something.

But we have been drilled in the head over and over again that CNN is fake news so it is much easier to believe this was staged than bad police work.
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By Jonathan Carone
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Are you really trying to imply a credentialed reporter would stage an arrest and the entire Minnesota State Police department would go with it? What benefit do they have to agree to that? Everyone already thinks they're terrible at their job and this would make them look even worse.
By thepostman
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I don't agree with manson's take but it is why i have always been uneasy with the preaident harping on fake news so much. It plants seeds of doubt and makes it more difficult to believe anything.
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By Purple Haize
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jcmanson wrote: May 29th, 2020, 9:07 am
Jonathan Carone wrote: May 29th, 2020, 9:01 am
This almost looks staged to me. Look at 1:18 of the video. One cop is holding him by the left arm while another cop stands over his right shoulder. Then all of a sudden they say he's under arrest. Looks fishy.
This seems like a whole lot of nothing. It appears to me they wanted them behind the other row of officers and to be reporting from a place that they could control. One thing is 100% certain rioters and looters LOVE the tv cameras. From where they were reporting and based on the runner at the beginning I can see why the Police wanted them to relocate. The reporter was looking for a story and got one. He became the story.
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By Purple Haize
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Jonathan Carone wrote: May 29th, 2020, 9:33 am He had been reporting how the police were doing a good job!
You asked me to watch the video. I did. That was my takeaway. He was asked to go somewhere and didn’t go. Just kept talking. I know the narrative will probably be that he just doing his job or he wasn’t told where to go. I don’t buy either. He was detained and released. Now he can claim media victim martyr status. Good for him
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By RubberMallet
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thepostman wrote:I don't agree with manson's take but it is why i have always been uneasy with the preaident harping on fake news so much. It plants seeds of doubt and makes it more difficult to believe anything.
on the flipside the media has done a great job of sowing mistrust of itself for years.
By thepostman
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Of course and I have many posts over the years here that makes it pretty clear I don't trust the media. I have seen first hand how the media can easily change a story. However, it is irresponsible for the president to harp on it so regularly. Obama use to do similar things with more eloquent wording towards Fox News and i wasn't a fan. The president shouldn't be in the business of trying to dictate how the press covers them.
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By Purple Haize
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For those of you who Twitter I recommend following this guy. I had heard of him before but he really came to prominence during the Impeachment debacle. He is no Trump fan which is why I love the intellectual consistency he has. I don’t always agree with him but I love his process

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By thepostman
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I'm more concerned about the looting and shooting tweet than this one. But such is life. Trump should leave Twitter but he is addicted to it so he won't.

After all, controversy creates cash!
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: May 30th, 2020, 8:01 am I'm more concerned about the looting and shooting tweet than this one. But such is life. Trump should leave Twitter but he is addicted to it so he won't.

After all, controversy creates cash!
That wasn’t the point of my post. I was just providing a resource for people, possibly like yourself, who have mixed emotions on the President. I like Turley’s even keel approach
By lynchburgwildcats
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Purple Haize wrote: May 28th, 2020, 11:05 am Well, when the Twitter fact checkers are wrong and selectively fact check then you have a problem
But they have that right as a private business.

If the right wants a bakery to be able to deny gay people wedding cakes because it's against their beliefs and that's protected under the first amendment, then to say another business can't practice their first amendment rights completely negates your arguments in favor of the bakery. If you want to be all hardcore about enforcing the Constitution, you can't just enforce the first amendment when it suits your agenda.
By lynchburgwildcats
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This whole Trump vs. Twitter fight is so incredibly stupid if he were to get what his executive order says. It would make Twitter, and any other website that may fall under the legal changes, liable for what their users says, much like a newspaper world. It would greatly increase the # of tweets he posts that get flagged given the vast # of times he lies and incites. With the # of Tweets of his that would likely get flagged, it wouldn't be an unreasonable business decision for them to decide to just ban him from the website. Or even more severe, Twitter could make the decision to move their operation entirely out of America or just shut down for good, costing many more Americans jobs and denying millions across the world the opportunity to express themselves to everyone on Earth (except where Twitter is banned like China).

So at the end all it would accomplish is more censorship and less freedom of speech.
By thepostman
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Guys I know it's an election year but should the President of the United States really use his first tweet of the morning after cities across America were lit on fire complaining about "Sleepy Joe"?

I know I may be asking for too much but it would be great if he at least attempted to unify the country.
By lynchburgwildcats
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thepostman wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:23 am Guys I know it's an election year but should the President of the United States really use his first tweet of the morning after cities across America were lit on fire complaining about "Sleepy Joe"?

I know I may be asking for too much but it would be great if he at least attempted to unify the country.
He's incapable of doing that.
By thepostman
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You aren't wrong. As much as I may not like it, it has worked for him.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:41 am I mean it is probably too little to late but at least try.
It was impossible from the day he announced his candidacy. There is literally nothing he could do or say that would be seen as unifying by his detractors. Absolutely nothing. Look at every single one of the “good” things he has done from the economy to green lighting the removal of Terrorists to Anything and he can’t catch a break. Sure he has self inflicted wounds but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he’s become the Lefts boogeymen. I thought it wouldn’t get worse than W. Boy was I wrong.
By lynchburgwildcats
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JK37 wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:42 am He’s made his climb by doing the opposite. Why change now?
I'm not sure the type of messaging that has drawn wide approval from white supremacists groups should be the type of messaging that we should want to see from our leaders.
By lynchburgwildcats
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Purple Haize wrote: June 1st, 2020, 10:36 am
thepostman wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:41 am I mean it is probably too little to late but at least try.
It was impossible from the day he announced his candidacy. There is literally nothing he could do or say that would be seen as unifying by his detractors. Absolutely nothing. Look at every single one of the “good” things he has done from the economy to green lighting the removal of Terrorists to Anything and he can’t catch a break. Sure he has self inflicted wounds but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he’s become the Lefts boogeymen. I thought it wouldn’t get worse than W. Boy was I wrong.
He literally retweeted a tweet that said the only good democrat is a dead democrat. He's never had a single bit of interest in unifying the country.
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By RubberMallet
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we've unemployed 40 million people and made them restless. I think trumps response will be calculated. he will watch how the current is being directed. i think its a poor way to govern from a "this is waht is actually needed" but great for a "this aids his reelection. he's basically become a run of the mill politician at this point.
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By thepostman
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Purple Haize wrote: June 1st, 2020, 10:36 am
thepostman wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:41 am I mean it is probably too little to late but at least try.
It was impossible from the day he announced his candidacy. There is literally nothing he could do or say that would be seen as unifying by his detractors. Absolutely nothing. Look at every single one of the “good” things he has done from the economy to green lighting the removal of Terrorists to Anything and he can’t catch a break. Sure he has self inflicted wounds but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he’s become the Lefts boogeymen. I thought it wouldn’t get worse than W. Boy was I wrong.
George W. at least attempted to unify the country and succeeded at times which is what always made the media look so ridiculous in my mind. Trump doesn't even try and so we will never know if he could do it or not. It makes it hard for me to sympathize with him like I could with George W.

Trump's supporters eat it up though whether I like it or not.
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By Purple Haize
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thepostman wrote: June 1st, 2020, 10:58 am
Purple Haize wrote: June 1st, 2020, 10:36 am
thepostman wrote: June 1st, 2020, 9:41 am I mean it is probably too little to late but at least try.
It was impossible from the day he announced his candidacy. There is literally nothing he could do or say that would be seen as unifying by his detractors. Absolutely nothing. Look at every single one of the “good” things he has done from the economy to green lighting the removal of Terrorists to Anything and he can’t catch a break. Sure he has self inflicted wounds but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he’s become the Lefts boogeymen. I thought it wouldn’t get worse than W. Boy was I wrong.
George W. at least attempted to unify the country and succeeded at times which is what always made the media look so ridiculous in my mind. Trump doesn't even try and so we will never know if he could do it or not. It makes it hard for me to sympathize with him like I could with George W.

Trump's supporters eat it up though whether I like it or not.
Which makes my point. W was eviscerated more than any President I can remember prior to Trump and he was the polar opposite personality wise. Yet it didn’t matter. This to expect anything for Trump to do as seen as unifying is not a realistic expectation
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