[Jonathan Carone]

In his last news conference Trump made it about as clear as you can that there are no current plans for a nationwide shutdown and they will continue to do that on a state and local basis. The problem is simply so different from place to place that a one size fits all response is not the way to go.

And this is the textbook argument for state’s rights.

[TH Spangler]

Steve Bannon called for Trump and CDC to go national this morning on TV. I’ve been hearing the same thing for a few days from different places. I think it would be a suggestion from the federal level as only the states have the authority to make that call. I’m fairly sure that if the suggestion is made it will be followed by most if not all states.

[thepostman]

There is a good reason Steve Bannon doesn't have an office in the west wing anymore.

After this first 15 days is over there may some more suggestions but not mandates. Our country is far too large for that to make sense.

[olldflame]

The biggest jumps yet in new cases ( almost 14,000) and deaths (94) in the US today. For a few more days we can attribute these to increased testing. If it keeps going much beyond that, I'm going to start getting worried.

[thepostman]

Exactly @oldflame . I think most who have been paying attention expected numbers to jump up. If a week from now we are seeing similar increases than we will be entering into a whole different ballgame.

[olldflame]

Over 12,000 of the new cases and 58 new deaths are in New York.

[thepostman]

New York has most of the cases. I wonder if steps will be taken to block them off from the rest of the nation.

[Purple Haize]

New York has most of the cases. I wonder if steps will be taken to block them off from the rest of the nation.

We have a blue print for it

[thepostman]

Also, Rand Paul becomes the 1st US Senator to test positive.

[PAmedic]

NYC being the outlier. Less densely populated areas aren’t seeing those numbers and from what I’m hearing census counts in hospitals/ICU are holding low. For now.
I’m pretty much in the camp of social distancing is working AND it’s a bit overblown.
Not to diminish the deaths in any way

[Purple Haize]

Over 12,000 of the new cases and 58 new deaths are in New York.

.004 mortality rate there on new cases using those numbers.

[thepostman]

Mortality rate can't truly be looked at until this is over with. It will continue to fluctuate.

The cases in NYC confirm what most on here have been saying about a national lockdown. It doesn't make sense but regional lockdowns do.

[TH Spangler]

Dr Carson said on tv this morning we are in uncharted waters. He cautioned about how quickly things can change and referenced Russia's colasp.

[Purple Haize]

Mortality rate can't truly be looked at until this is over with. It will continue to fluctuate.

The cases in NYC confirm what most on here have been saying about a national lockdown. It doesn't make sense but regional lockdowns do.

Not saying you’re wrong but if you recall all those dire predictions early on about a >3% mortality rate. Now that those percentages are dropping you aren’t seeing that anymore. I just thought I’d refresh everyone’s memory

[SumItUp]

Not saying you’re wrong but if you recall all those dire predictions early on about a >3% mortality rate. Now that those percentages are dropping you aren’t seeing that anymore. I just thought I’d refresh everyone’s memory

Who said 3% or greater? I'm not disagreeing, I just did not see it. The highest % that I ever saw from an epidemiologist was .7% and that was still assumed to be high based on the fact that many who contract the virus will remain healthy and may not be accurately reflected in the statistics. When it is all over, there will be a calculated number assigned to those that were not tested, but likely had the virus.

[thepostman]

I don't remember seeing anything about greater than 3%. I did see it referenced when the mortality rate was still 3%. There were worst case and best case scenarios thrown out there and some people grasped onto the portion of those reports that best fit whatever narrative they were trying to convey.

Regardless, much too early to come to any kind of conclusions. It is irresponsible for anybody to do so. Yet people keep on doing it.

[Purple Haize]

Not saying you’re wrong but if you recall all those dire predictions early on about a >3% mortality rate. Now that those percentages are dropping you aren’t seeing that anymore. I just thought I’d refresh everyone’s memory

Who said 3% or greater? I'm not disagreeing, I just did not see it. The highest % that I ever saw from an epidemiologist was .7% and that was still assumed to be high based on the fact that many who contract the virus will remain healthy and may not be accurately reflected in the statistics. When it is all over, there will be a calculated number assigned to those that were not tested, but likely had the virus.

Here are a few. WHO was at 3.4. Even one showed a 5%. I thought I saw one at 7% but can’t find it. But there have been several “experts” saying it will have a higher mortality rate than “regular” flu

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... o-03-03-20

https://www.livescience.com/why-italy-c ... -high.html

https://www.sciencealert.com/covid-19-s ... hould-drop

https://towardsdatascience.com/why-the- ... 63f571b6a6

[PAmedic]

Yeah I spent a week arguing with hysterical FaceBook aficionados who were expecting 3 to 4% and 2 million dead Americans.
I don’t argue anymore.
I truly believe a lot of people thrive off the excitement and getting everyone worked up
And if you’re not as scared as them you’re an insensitive POS (among other things I’ve been called)

[PAmedic]

Meanwhile I continue to work. No mask of course. and go to wawa. And the Acme

[Purple Haize]

Yeah I spent a week arguing with hysterical FaceBook aficionados who were expecting 3 to 4% and 2 million dead Americans.
I don’t argue anymore.
I truly believe a lot of people thrive off the excitement and getting everyone worked up
And if you’re not as scared as them you’re an insensitive POS (among other things I’ve been called)

To be fair you are an insensitive POS. Maybe it’s a Napoleon Complex thing

But you are spot on some people (looking at you DC and NY press corp) thriving on the excitement of getting people worked up

[thepostman]

Thanks @Purple Haize . I honestly don't remember seeing that from reputable sources. I don't consider any mainstream media source a reputable or our president for that matter.

There is a fine line of hysteria and being cautious. The media is going to be the media. The CDC has provided great data.

[Purple Haize]

Thanks @Purple Haize . I honestly don't remember seeing that from reputable sources. I don't consider any mainstream media source a reputable or our president for that matter.

There is a fine line of hysteria and being cautious. The media is going to be the media. The CDC has provided great data.

Well I figured the WHO besides being a solid band would be credible

[thepostman]

Yeah and the WHO stated that it would likely drop after they put out 3.4.

This is an article from a couple weeks ago where it is mentioned.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 ... ly-to-drop

[thepostman]

In isolation too! Haha

https://deadline.com/2020/03/coronaviru ... 202889800/

[Purple Haize]

Thanks @Purple Haize . I honestly don't remember seeing that from reputable sources. I don't consider any mainstream media source a reputable or our president for that matter.

There is a fine line of hysteria and being cautious. The media is going to be the media. The CDC has provided great data.

I was asked to provide a source or sources of who said >3%. I did that. I know that the WHO revised their estimate down. That was sort of the point of my original post. These numbers were touted as harbingers of doom. Now they are being ignored because they are dropping to a point that will soon be below seasonal flu