[Yacht Rock]

The difference is none of us are the leader of a prominent Christian university. Like it or not, you're held to a much higher standard. Rightfully so, in my opinion.

I think that point didn't register to be honest. It's been mentioned many times on here and some get it, and some don't.

To @TH Spangler
My point was that your tune changed right after LU changed their strategy.

It just seemed funny that you pivoted from "this is overblown" to "this is more serious than I thought" so quickly. I'm surprised you didn't hurt your neck with all that whiplash.

Either way, glad to have you on the, "Let's all take precautions" train. This is one of those "It takes a village" moments.

[BlueBlood]

Major whiplash. Went from “you must be here Monday for in-person classes” to “you must have all your stuff out of the dorm by Tuesday” within 24 hours. Why is it always extremes?

[rogers3]

Major whiplash. Went from “you must be here Monday for in-person classes” to “you must have all your stuff out of the dorm by Tuesday” within 24 hours. Why is it always extremes?

Not characteristic of even middling leadership.

[Jonathan Carone]

Major whiplash. Went from “you must be here Monday for in-person classes” to “you must have all your stuff out of the dorm by Tuesday” within 24 hours. Why is it always extremes?

So they're telling kids to come back from Spring Break just to get their stuff and leave, right in the middle of everything where we're supposed to limit travel and exposure?

Yeah. That makes sense.

[thepostman]

I am sure if asked, he will blame the governor. He wouldn't of changed his mind if his hand hadn't of been forced.

[Purple Haize]

I am sure if asked, he will blame the governor. He wouldn't of changed his mind if his hand hadn't of been forced.

I agree with that completely
But I am curious as to what other schools have done. Did the ones who canceled in person classes for the semester do it prior to Spring Break? Did any cancel after Spring Break? If so, how are they handling students getting their things?
Did any schools do it after Spring Break? How are they handling it?
What about schools that are giving students just a few weeks?
I’m not sure how everyone else is handling it. Cutting it prior to Spring Break now looks like the best option in hind sight. I’ll withhold judgement of his Flip flop when I see what other schools who didn’t cancel handle theirs.

I mean I’m no dummy

[thepostman]

Not all schools hold spring break at the same time. Some do it earlier and some do it later so it's tough data to go through. From what I have seen locally, the decision was made last week by most colleges in this region to go to online learning. For some, it would require coming to campus to gather belongings and for some that would mean moving out instead of going on spring break. Last week the President indicated things were going to get worse before they would get better. He said that because he was listening to the smart people around him. Jerry should have taken queues from him. I'm not sure why he didn't. He does for most everything else.

[Purple Haize]

Not all schools hold spring break at the same time. Some do it earlier and some do it later so it's tough data to go through. From what I have seen locally, the decision was made last week by most colleges in this region to go to online learning. For some, it would require coming to campus to gather belongings and for some that would mean moving out instead of going on spring break. Last week the President indicated things were going to get worse before they would get better. He said that because he was listening to the smart people around him. Jerry should have taken queues from him. I'm not sure why he didn't. He does for most everything else.

Yeah, the question sounds better in my head. Basically if you would shift to online prior to SB you can use that scheduled time as a parent and student to arrange getting stuff home. But now after you’ve already left being told you need to come back then turn around and leave seems an arduous task. Not very Consumer Friendly.
In the end the Virus will all blow over but how you treat people will not be easily forgotten. Ya dummy

[TH Spangler]

Speaking of dummies How about our "so call leaders" over the past 30 years offshoring our critical manufacturing in the name of personal gain.

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply

"Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-c ... y-n1052376

[Purple Haize]

Speaking of dummies How about our "so call leaders" over the past 30 years offshoring our critical manufacturing in the name of personal gain.

U.S. officials worried about Chinese control of American drug supply

"Basically we've outsourced our entire industry to China," retired Brig. Gen. John Adams told NBC News. "That is a strategic vulnerability."

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-c ... y-n1052376

That will possibly be the biggest change out of this. If Trump is re-elected you will most certainly see a shift away from China as a key part in the supply chain. I’m sure it’s easy to forget that Trump was recently in India.....
if Biden wins look for things to return to “normal” and China will continue to keep a tight hold on our supply chain

[olldflame]

For those who are thinking the US is overreacting to the virus, let me give another perspective. I live most of the year here in the Dominican Republic. For the geographically impaired, it is located on the East side of the Caribbean island of Hispanola, with Haiti on the West side. At latest report, there are a grand total of 21 reported caases of the virus on the entire island, which has a population of 22 million. My understanding is that all the cases are tourists and resort workers in the resort area of Bayahibe (which happens to be about 15 miles East of where I live). They have all been quarantined. There is one death, an elderly Italian tourist. keep in mind, although knowledge is still limited as to how this virus will react to warmer weather, the spread of similar viruses has dramatically slowed in the Spring. This is in the tropics.

Yesterday, President Medina announced restrictions similar to or more stringent than the US has. All schools and universities closed, along with all stores that do not sell groceries. Only delivery from restaurants. Bars and discos closed. No public gatherings or events. There are so many people, many I know, who live day to day, not paycheck to paycheck, and for them the situation could quickly become desperate, not as a result of the virus, but as a result of the government reaction. For the first time since I have been here I am a bit concerned about my personal security. Desperate people do things they otherwise would not, and while I am not by any means wealthy, there is that perception because my physical appearance tells everyone I am a gringo.

[Jonathan Carone]

This thread on Twitter has been going around this morning. It's really sobering and explains why we're doing what we're doing:

[Sly Fox]

This is new territory for all of us. Well-intentioned mistakes will continue to be made by nearly all parties. As facts arise, the ability to quickly adjust will be valuable to all of us.

All of my income for the next couple of months has vanished. We have experienced income-induced austerity before multiple times and have managed our way through it. I suspect for many this will be their first time to make these types of dramatic adjustments in their lives. My counsel is be smart and focus on the bare necessities. Don't wait too long to make adjustments and waste valuable resources based on living in the old paradigm.

I am on the other end of the spectrum, olldflame. I live primarily among wealthy retirees and they are living like there is no tomorrow. While I was grinding on business plans on my back porch, hundreds of golfers were bumper to bumper playing through behind my house. Most are treating this as an unscheduled vacation. I suspect that will change in a week or so.

[olldflame]

I'm cautiously optimistic that a vaccine will be available much sooner than projected. Thankfully, it looks like our President has made it clear that fast tracking past the normally tedious and time consuming regulations is a priority. The Israelis seem to be ahead of everyone on this. I wonder if our friends in "the squad" will continue to support sanctions against them now.

[olldflame]

In defense of President Medina, it would not take an enormous outbreak here to totally overwhelm the medical system. Quality care is available (I had cataract surgery on both eyes, and the treatment could not have been more professional or the outcome better), but the total number of legitimate ICU beds with ventilators in the country is probably scary low. On further reflection, he is probably doing what he needs to do. It will be interesting to see what happens politically. Presidential election is in May.

[rhezick]

So I'm curious... now that those in the media who were downplaying this as "contained" and an "impeachment hoax" and "overblown" have been proven wrong/idiotic, it leads me to wonder what legitimate time of day anyone would give them when they say "hey, trust us, not those lying jerks over there!" Weren't outlets spouting off that rhetoric actually the embodiment of fake news that they've been decrying for so long? Maybe I'm wrong.

[thepostman]

That is why it's best to get news from various sources because the truth is almost always somewhere in between.

[chris leedlelee]

The Israelis seem to be ahead of everyone on this. I wonder if our friends in "the squad" will continue to support sanctions against them now.

They'll begrudgingly accept the "evil Zionist" vaccine, then call for the destruction of Israel a week later.

[SumItUp]

I suspect for many this will be their first time to make these types of dramatic adjustments in their lives. My counsel is be smart and focus on the bare necessities. Don't wait too long to make adjustments and waste valuable resources based on living in the old paradigm.

This is worth re-reading.

[Yacht Rock]

That is why it's best to get news from various sources because the truth is almost always somewhere in between.

And even the craziest news outlets sometimes print/report on something accurate. Sometimes I read something accurate on Fox News. Sometimes I read something accurate on MSNBC, sometimes on CNN, sometimes in the NYTimes. Heck, this morning I got an accurate report of something on social media, a breeding ground of hyperbole and fake news, before it was in any traditional media outlet.

Multiple sources and not believing everything you read, regardless of source is such an important thing for folks to learn. Apply critical thinking to everything you read, even stuff from outlets you typically agree with. Even if something confirms your existing bias. Look past the story to the sources. Who did the media get their story from? What does the source say?

For instance, right now, I see a lot of headlines for things saying "cancelled" that are actually "postponed" or just "adjusted to online" when you read the story.

I'll leave with this...

[Cider Jim]

Bars and discos closed.

I had no idea that discos were still a thing. I thought they all died in the mid-1980s.

[flamehunter]

First possible case in the Lynchburg area.
https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/emplo ... -in-forest

[Purple Haize]

First possible case in the Lynchburg area.
https://wset.com/news/coronavirus/emplo ... -in-forest

Contracting the Virus is not a death sentence. It’s this type of pearl clutching reporting that is doing no one any favors.

[JK37]

seems straightforward. Employees received alert. “Possible” case. Presumptive positive. JCrew won’t confirm.

[Purple Haize]

seems straightforward. Employees received alert. “Possible” case. Presumptive positive. JCrew won’t confirm.

And it is being jumped on like one of the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse has just ridden into town