[Class of 20Something]

That’s a part of the new rule I didn’t see coming.

Yeah, this whole “we are off to a bad start this year, I want to play next year instead” thing kind of came on quick.

I think it's less of a bad start but rather wasting eligibility with an placeholder for your HC.

[olldflame]

Tip of the hat to the Rutgers staff if they can get through this with only one key player taking a redshirt this year.

[LU 57]

Not surprising given what I have been seeing in youth, and even in high school, football. Kids/parents will "try programs out" and move on if the team/program does not meet their expectations, or if they believe their kid will not get enough "touches" and/or special treatment.

Combined with liberal high school transfer rules, in my area it has lead to most top end talent ending up at 4-5 schools, while everyone else suffers through mediocrity. Then you throw in the concussion/CTE issue and it is hard to be optimistic for football's future.

However, I do believe there is a silver lining. It is just going to require a monumental effort by ADs, coaches, and doctors to educate parents and players not only on the dangers of concussions, but also on prevention and rehabilitation. Teaching proper blocking and tackling technique is paramount.

As a middle school coach and HS parent, I will say we have come a long way on this, we still have a ways to go. Anyway, sorry for hijacking the thread. Carry on.

[BlueBlood]

That’s a part of the new rule I didn’t see coming.

Yeah, this whole “we are off to a bad start this year, I want to play next year instead” thing kind of came on quick.

I think it's less of a bad start but rather wasting eligibility with an placeholder for your HC.

I was speaking globally. Some of the kids doing it (like the two Houston players) are coming back to the same coach. The one thing they all have in common though is a bad start to the season and a belief that a redo will be better.

[Purple Haize]

Excuse my cynicism in the post above. After further consideration, it really is hard to imagine the people at Rutgers were not aware of this. That would not necessarily mean the decision to make the coaching move when they did was totally altruistic. If they had waited a week, and then it could be proven that the decision had been made earlier, it would have opened an ENORMOUS can of worms.

You are excused fine sir. You need only look back to last year with Dabo Clemson and Hurst. He made the move so the kid had options. It doesn’t seem far fetched that this type of thing will become a trend

[A Sea of Red]

Rutgers' Raheem Blacksheer is going the same way as the QB, as he sits out today against Maryland. Blackshear is one of the best playmakers Rutgers has on the offensive side of the field.

[olldflame]

Maryland 48
Rutgers 7

Langan, the new QB, was 13/25 for 163 yards with 2 interceptions. He also ran the ball 19 times for 59 yards

[ballcoach15]

Liberal transfer policies need to be halted at both high school and college level. Just a matter of time before some "donkey" comes up with an idea of paying players.

Oh, silly me. They already have.

[olldflame]

Liberal transfer policies need to be halted at both high school and college level. Just a matter of time before some "donkey" comes up with an idea of paying players.

Oh, silly me. They already have.

We know how you feel about transfers. (HOW COULD WE NOT!) What you apparently are failing to recognize here is that to this point neither of these players are talking about transferring. All they did is sit out this game, so they can retain the option of taking a redshirt this year while they ponder what to do.

[Jonathan Carone]

Also the name and likeness debate is getting bipartisan support across the country.

[ballcoach15]

Liberal transfer policies need to be halted at both high school and college level. Just a matter of time before some "donkey" comes up with an idea of paying players.

Oh, silly me. They already have.

We know how you feel about transfers. (HOW COULD WE NOT!) What you apparently are failing to recognize here is that to this point neither of these players are talking about transferring. All they did is sit out this game, so they can retain the option of taking a redshirt this year while they ponder what to do.

Very true old flame . But in this situation, the pondering could very well lead to a transfer. Probably depends on who new coach will be.

[JK37]

Should it not depend on who the new coach is? That is the #1 reason athletes choose a school: the COACH.

Schools aren’t paying players. The NCAA is giving players the opportunity to earn based on their own image and likeness. The same way literally EVERY OTHER STUDENT is permitted to do so. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to do that? This has been a foregone conclusion for 6 years now. (I’ll let you figure out the significance of that timeframe.) Get on board, old-timer. You are lost in a position void of relevance or logic.

[Class of 20Something]

Should it not depend on who the new coach is? That is the #1 reason athletes choose a school: the COACH.

Schools aren’t paying players. The NCAA is giving players the opportunity to earn based on their own image and likeness. The same way literally EVERY OTHER STUDENT is permitted to do so. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to do that? This has been a foregone conclusion for 6 years now. (I’ll let you figure out the significance of that timeframe.) Get on board, old-timer. You are lost in a position void of relevance or logic.

Quickly before we get back to talking about what Rutgers team we are going to see.

Pro-Profit in Likeness
-It their face. They should be allowed to make money on it.

Pro-Amateurism
-How can the NCAA enforce and verify that players are compensated fairly for their work? Meaning, what is to prevent a booster(for example a car dealership owner) from using the player in a commercial, as an athlete representing the school, and compensating them above what would be appropriate for the job?

I think it’s important to understand both sides have valid arguments. This isn’t about politics but about maintaining a level playing field for programs at the same level.

On to Rutgers

Down:
HC
QB
RB

Is Liberty competitive with Rutgers now?

[Jonathan Carone]

FPI has us as a 56% favorite.

[thepostman]

It certainly is a more winnable game but it's on the road so you never can tell.

[rtb72]

It certainly is a more winnable game but it's on the road so you never can tell.

...and you can never tell which offense will show for LU.

[flameshaw]

Should it not depend on who the new coach is? That is the #1 reason athletes choose a school: the COACH.

Schools aren’t paying players. The NCAA is giving players the opportunity to earn based on their own image and likeness. The same way literally EVERY OTHER STUDENT is permitted to do so. Why shouldn’t they be allowed to do that? This has been a foregone conclusion for 6 years now. (I’ll let you figure out the significance of that timeframe.) Get on board, old-timer. You are lost in a position void of relevance or logic.

Quickly before we get back to talking about what Rutgers team we are going to see.

Pro-Profit in Likeness
-It their face. They should be allowed to make money on it.

Pro-Amateurism
-How can the NCAA enforce and verify that players are compensated fairly for their work? Meaning, what is to prevent a booster(for example a car dealership owner) from using the player in a commercial, as an athlete representing the school, and compensating them above what would be appropriate for the job?

I think it’s important to understand both sides have valid arguments. This isn’t about politics but about maintaining a level playing field for programs at the same level.

On to Rutgers

Down:
HC
QB
RB

Is Liberty competitive with Rutgers now?

Free agency has ruined almost all sports. This pay to college players will do the same. Yes, it is their likeness-face-etc. but they are already getting $100K- $200K education for free. I got a full-ride scholarship and believe I was compensated fairly. And with my face, I probably could have made millions.

[Class of 20Something]

Here's a real life example of where I think the NCAA is wrong on the likeness debate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndicatio ... l.amp.html

[Ewglenn]

I’m in the minority here but I like the idea of redshirting and transferring. I know it’s tough on coaches but they get paid A LOT of money so they can manage. Why take the ability away from a kid? Don’t give me the loyalty stuff because the coach will bolt if a better option comes open (even HCHF).

[badger74]

What about New Jersey?

In reality, I lump NY and NJ together pertaining to college football.

NY/NJ/CT have over 30 million people including a large number of BIG alums. Even a small piece of that mega pie was worth going after. While RU football has not been what was hoped the basketball program is making great strides.

Proof
https://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/ ... ent-chaos/

[LU 57]

Rutgers opening day QB1 retiring for health reasons:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... th-reasons

Down to a RS freshman and a true freshman. The RS freshman, Langan, started against Maryland.

[chris leedlelee]

Rutgers opening day QB1 retiring for health reasons:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... th-reasons

Down to a RS freshman and a true freshman. The RS freshman, Langan, started against Maryland.

The perfect storm seems to be brewing for an LU upset. Getting a BiG10 win this year would be huge.

[olldflame]

Indiana leads Rutgers 28-0 early in the 3rd quarter. Rutgers has 65 yards of total offense.

[olldflame]

Final score was 35-0 Indiana. It wasn't that close. Indiana had 557 yards of offense to 75 for Rutgers, who had ONE (1) passing yard. 25 first downs to 6.

[JK37]

I’m starting to feel bad for Rutgers players. They don’t deserve it this bad.