[Purple Haize]

ballcoach told me there isn’t really a thriving Escort business in Lynchburg. So I think that’s not something to be worried about

[libertydawg]

I got you and to be clear I'm not saying Hugh Freeze doesn't deserves forgiveness, I hope he has it and his family is truly restored. But take away the sin part - forget the escorts, etc. Hugh Freeze still oversaw the greatest cheating scandal in college football since SMU. He left a destroyed Ole Miss program in his wake and the SEC didn't want him coaching while his former team was literally on probation (their bowl ban ends this year). Ole Miss hasn't had a wining season since 2015 and they will be TERRIBLE next year. Sin aside, forget that part, nobody can deny Hugh Freeze lead a historically dirty program. There are still law suits over it to this day and Coach Freeze wasn't even eligible to coach at any NCAA school (without serving a suspension first ) until 5 days ago. So I ask again, is that the person we want to lead our program? Is that really the best we can do?

Glad to be on the board. Hopefully Liberty gets this one right and we can all pull on the rope in the same direction. Good evening to everyone.

[libertydawg]

ballcoach told me there isn’t really a thriving Escort business in Lynchburg. So I think that’s not something to be worried about

Lol. I'll bug out on that one.

[ballcoach15]

If there's any, they're "underground"

[Purple Haize]

ballcoach told me there isn’t really a thriving Escort business in Lynchburg. So I think that’s not something to be worried about

Lol. I'll bug out on that one.

C’mon. Stick around

[ballah09]

FWIW I talked to a former player and from what he told me there is quite a few of them that will stop the support of the program if they go with Freeze/Briles. It’s not a lot but interesting to hear.

[LibertyJoe2010]

I got you and to be clear I'm not saying Hugh Freeze doesn't deserves forgiveness, I hope he has it and his family is truly restored. But take away the sin part - forget the escorts, etc. Hugh Freeze still oversaw the greatest cheating scandal in college football since SMU. He left a destroyed Ole Miss program in his wake and the SEC didn't want him coaching while his former team was literally on probation (their bowl ban ends this year). Ole Miss hasn't had a wining season since 2015 and they will be TERRIBLE next year. Sin aside, forget that part, nobody can deny Hugh Freeze lead a historically dirty program. There are still law suits over it to this day and Coach Freeze wasn't even eligible to coach at any NCAA school (without serving a suspension first ) until 5 days ago. So I ask again, is that the person we want to lead our program? Is that really the best we can do?

Glad to be on the board. Hopefully Liberty gets this one right and we can all pull on the rope in the same direction. Good evening to everyone.

If this is true why didn't Ole Miss get the same penalty? Some of the things said about Hugh Freeze tenure there have been proven false. Do you think in someways it was revenge of Houston Nutt with some of the allegations? Has he still not found a job since then?

[ballcoach15]

My Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

[cruzan_flame13]

My Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

Most of the media, who goes quite left by the way, don't want anything to do with The Bible. Unless if you're referring to Rules of Radicals by Saul Alinsky; they love that book and use the references everyday.

[libertydawg]

If this is true why didn't Ole Miss get the same penalty? Some of the things said about Hugh Freeze tenure there have been proven false. Do you think in someways it was revenge of Houston Nutt with some of the allegations? Has he still not found a job since then?

Ole Miss was hit with 15 level one (the most serious you can get) violations under Hugh Freeze including a lack of institutional control. When the NCAA story first broke their AD and others tried to claim it was under Houston Nutt and not under Coach Freeze. That was an attempt to salvage a good recruiting class because rumors were starting to float Hugh Freeze would be gone soon (which was correct). Houston Nutt demanded an apology and Ole Miss refused. That's why Tom Mars was hired and the rest is history. That's when the details about Coach Freeze and his program came out and the NCAA set up camp in Oxford for literally two years. They even closed it at one point and had to come back and open the investigation again after the infamous Laramy Tunsil NFL draft night fiasco.

[LibertyJoe2010]

It will be interesting to see how Hugh Freeze situation plays out. I will say the chiesitan school in Memphis Tennessee denied all reports of wrong doing there by Hugh Freeze. I will say that your justification of he frowned upon by Sec country then why could you possibly have three Sec schools looking at him for a offensive coordinator position. In no way am I justifying what he did was right. But if it is true Ian McCaw meets with the coach every week there is ways that he can be held accountable.

[libertydawg]

Freeze is a good offensive coach. There is no doubt about that. It's not surprising at all some SEC schools would consider him as OC - it's a cutthroat conference. I mean Auburn hired Bruce Pearl after he got Tennessee put on probation in basketball. So it goes in the SEC. I hold Liberty to a higher standard though and I want us to be above that. Good night everyone.

[Purple Haize]

FWIW I talked to a former player and from what he told me there is quite a few of them that will stop the support of the program if they go with Freeze/Briles. It’s not a lot but interesting to hear.

I know there are a ton of very committed Christian guys that have and do play football for Liberty, but this sort of makes me roll my eyes.

You and I both know the sort of thing that goes on around our athletics programs. All of a sudden having Freeze is crossing the line?

The more I hear stuff like this the more I want Freeze!!!

[Jonathan Carone]

We were the butt of a joke on High Noon on ESPN today because of this.

[rogers3]

Here's an article that talked about the SEC blocking Hugh Freeze last year. This is common knowledge down here and I will not be surprised if they stop it again this year at Tennessee. Let that sink in. The SEC says they don't want Hugh Freeze because of the reputation, but Liberty says it's fine? Come on guys.

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/inde ... een_h.html

Welcome to the board. I respect your opinion, and I think it comes from a good place. I too have deep concerns about our alma mater’s principles remaining in place.

That being said, the SEC not wanting Hugh Freeze is exactly why he fits at Liberty. The man, by all accounts, is sincerely repentant and regenerative in his faith. Jesus often associated with men and women that the world around them would not. LU should absolutely be in the redemption business, bc our Creator is.

I am regularly sickened by the degree to which I am quite easily able to appeal to Christ and say or do the most anti-Christ things within minutes. It’s difficult for me to condemn a man who appears to be sincere in his faith for actions such as the ones you have outlined.

I also don’t really care all that much about how the world views the decision, if we believe Freeze to be sincere. Believers will always be mocked for being Christlike.

Love how people will defend awful decisions due to the redemptive nature of Christianity. I see it as willingness to compromise because there is license. If your worried about LU's principles, you missed that bus quite a while ago.

[cruzan_flame13]

We were the butt of a joke on High Noon on ESPN today because of this.

ESPN...really? You’re not shocked by this? ESPN is so politically driven and left, that they make Jerry Seinfeld look like a conservative.

[cruzan_flame13]

Here's an article that talked about the SEC blocking Hugh Freeze last year. This is common knowledge down here and I will not be surprised if they stop it again this year at Tennessee. Let that sink in. The SEC says they don't want Hugh Freeze because of the reputation, but Liberty says it's fine? Come on guys.

https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/inde ... een_h.html

Welcome to the board. I respect your opinion, and I think it comes from a good place. I too have deep concerns about our alma mater’s principles remaining in place.

That being said, the SEC not wanting Hugh Freeze is exactly why he fits at Liberty. The man, by all accounts, is sincerely repentant and regenerative in his faith. Jesus often associated with men and women that the world around them would not. LU should absolutely be in the redemption business, bc our Creator is.

I am regularly sickened by the degree to which I am quite easily able to appeal to Christ and say or do the most anti-Christ things within minutes. It’s difficult for me to condemn a man who appears to be sincere in his faith for actions such as the ones you have outlined.

I also don’t really care all that much about how the world views the decision, if we believe Freeze to be sincere. Believers will always be mocked for being Christlike.

+1
As I stated earlier. Why do we proclaim that we fall short and is saved by grace, but when we see someone who profess to be a believer mess up, some of us block out that person like we are better? Haven’t we seen this fault in the Bible countless of times? Didn’t Christ point this out to us? Not saying Freeze is the guy for us, but if he is hired, we should comfort our brother in Christ and show those who attack/mock who Christ truly is.

[flameshaw]

FWIW I talked to a former player and from what he told me there is quite a few of them that will stop the support of the program if they go with Freeze/Briles. It’s not a lot but interesting to hear.

FWIW, I have talked to a lot of former players who would stop supporting the program if TG was given an extension. In reality, most former players don't really support the program in any substantive way. They might be interested in what goes on from a distance, but that is about it. There have been problems on both sides of the equation. The school admits that they haven't done a great job of keeping up with former athletes. But they are making a much better effort than years previous.
Bottom line, the decision makers won't and shouldn't make a hire based on those of us who don't have all of the information they have to make the correct decision going forward. So far, they have a pretty good record and I trust their instincts.

[ballcoach15]

I just received a report that the Alabama OC is headed to Maryland as HC. If this is true, then Freeze becomes a candidate for the OC job at Alabama.

If he doesn't get LU job, I think he goes to Alabama.

[Purple Haize]

We were the butt of a joke on High Noon on ESPN today because of this.

Yeah. Ian should probably submit his list to those guys first to see if it meets with their approval

[Class of 20Something]

I'm all about the redemption and repentance we have in Christ, but do we put him in charge of 100+ players, coaches, and staff.

[TallyW]

https://volswire.com/2018/12/04/ut-coac ... ssion=true

David Nasser giving support to Hugh Freeze as coach among other things. Looks like UT fans are getting frustrated thinking we could land him.

[Purple Haize]

I'm all about the redemption and repentance we have in Christ, but do we put him in charge of 100+ players, coaches, and staff.

Yes. Why not? It’s what he does. Coach

[Purple Haize]

https://volswire.com/2018/12/04/ut-coac ... ssion=true

David Nasser giving support to Hugh Freeze as coach among other things. Looks like UT fans are getting frustrated thinking we could land him.

I think this might speak volumes unintentionally

“Number one, he is a proven football coach and does not have to prove himself,” he said. “Number two, he is a strong believer and a strong man of faith

[Jonathan Carone]

Because when I think “qualified to speak about our next football coach” I think David Nassar.