[olldflame]

BTW, while Mike Leach is a fit politically, I really cannot see us hiring a Morman (even one who by his own admission is not very devout) as our football coach. Sorry to say we can scratch that one off the list, because it would be a fun ride.

[Kricket]

Ben the intern keepin it real

[Purple Haize]

While there is some difference of opinion among those who rank such things, the consensus top 5 college coaches seem to be:
1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer
3. Jim Harbaugh
4. Jimbo Fisher
5. Dabo Swinney

The only one of those 5 I can see as a fit at Liberty is Dabo. If that is who ballcoach is talking about, the salary he suggested would mean he would be taking a pay cut to leave Clemson and come to Liberty. I don't see that happening. Highly unlikely he would make that move at any price, but 4 million would not cut it for sure.

That's part of the list I posted earlier. I think we are going to find out it's NOT one of the top 5

[Purple Haize]

The coach whose name was told to me, is not named Briles, Stoops, or Miles. He currently has a job. If he were to come to LU, I think he would get in neighborhood of 3 or 4,000,000. Maybe more, maybe less.

Again, assuming that unicorns exist, PH's farts smell of roses, and your mom is Mother Theresa, the only coach who I could possibly think of is Mike Leach, and that salary is probably what he would demand.

First off, my farts are magical
Secondly ballcoach said a head coach at a Top 5 FBS school. Obviously Briles, Stoops and Miles are not a head coach at a Top 5 FBS school

[cruzan_flame13]

We can now add Duke into our football schedules. Hopefully one day we can add them for as a non conference game in basketball. Not sure we'd win but it would be interesting down the road (maybe between 2026-2030).

[bluedevilflame]

I got some time to figure out who I'll want to win more!

[VAGolf]

I got some time to figure out who I'll want to win more!

The only other Duke/Liberty fan has returned! Glad I'm not the only one in the club again.


This is exciting news for me as I'm already planning to attend several Duke games this season and several Liberty games next season. Durham may not be the sexiest location but you guys will love playing at Duke. Weather is usually perfect from late-September on, atmosphere is lively but casual and you can easily be there and back in a day from central VA.

[bluedevilflame]

I got some time to figure out who I'll want to win more!

The only other Duke/Liberty fan has returned! Glad I'm not the only one in the club again.


This is exciting news for me as I'm already planning to attend several Duke games this season and several Liberty games next season. Durham may not be the sexiest location but you guys will love playing at Duke. Weather is usually perfect from late-September on, atmosphere is lively but casual and you can easily be there and back in a day from central VA.

I have! Having a kid will really limit your free time, who knew!?

I love Durham, its a really cool town thats growing at a rapid clip, really looking forward to these games!

[Ewglenn]

While there is some difference of opinion among those who rank such things, the consensus top 5 college coaches seem to be:
1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer
3. Jim Harbaugh
4. Jimbo Fisher
5. Dabo Swinney

The only one of those 5 I can see as a fit at Liberty is Dabo. If that is who ballcoach is talking about, the salary he suggested would mean he would be taking a pay cut to leave Clemson and come to Liberty. I don't see that happening. Highly unlikely he would make that move at any price, but 4 million would not cut it for sure.

Whoever is suggesting a top 5 coach to Liberty is crazy. No offense but it's just not happening unless y'all are going to pay 20+ million a year. Facilities are nice but far behind the Clemson, Bama and Oregon's of CFB. Recruiting will be difficult there because of location and restrictions by the school. It's not a known football power at any level. 4 of the top 5 have a National Championship to their name (at the school they currently coach) and the other has been to a Super Bowl as the head man. Even 20+ might not be enough.

[flameshaw]

I got some time to figure out who I'll want to win more!

The only other Duke/Liberty fan has returned! Glad I'm not the only one in the club again.


This is exciting news for me as I'm already planning to attend several Duke games this season and several Liberty games next season. Durham may not be the sexiest location but you guys will love playing at Duke. Weather is usually perfect from late-September on, atmosphere is lively but casual and you can easily be there and back in a day from central VA.

I have! Having a kid will really limit your free time, who knew!?

I love Durham, its a really cool town thats growing at a rapid clip, really looking forward to these games!

Having worked in Durham for over 20 years, I have to disagree. There have been some nice improvements in the downtown area and there are a lot of good restaurants, but Durham is still the lower intestine of NC. There are still many, many places I wouldn't go in Durham during the daytime, much less at night.
A football game on Saturday, at Duke, would be safe to attend and probably enjoyable. Just don't venture too far from the campus area.

[Purple Haize]

While there is some difference of opinion among those who rank such things, the consensus top 5 college coaches seem to be:
1. Nick Saban
2. Urban Meyer
3. Jim Harbaugh
4. Jimbo Fisher
5. Dabo Swinney

The only one of those 5 I can see as a fit at Liberty is Dabo. If that is who ballcoach is talking about, the salary he suggested would mean he would be taking a pay cut to leave Clemson and come to Liberty. I don't see that happening. Highly unlikely he would make that move at any price, but 4 million would not cut it for sure.

Whoever is suggesting a top 5 coach to Liberty is crazy. No offense but it's just not happening unless y'all are going to pay 20+ million a year. Facilities are nice but far behind the Clemson, Bama and Oregon's of CFB. Recruiting will be difficult there because of location and restrictions by the school. It's not a known football power at any level. 4 of the top 5 have a National Championship to their name (at the school they currently coach) and the other has been to a Super Bowl as the head man. Even 20+ might not be enough.

Take it up with ballcoach. He is the one claiming that information And he was a Sgt in the MP's!

[bluedevilflame]

Having worked in Durham for over 20 years, I have to disagree. There have been some nice improvements in the downtown area and there are a lot of good restaurants, but Durham is still the lower intestine of NC. There are still many, many places I wouldn't go in Durham during the daytime, much less at night.
A football game on Saturday, at Duke, would be safe to attend and probably enjoyable. Just don't venture too far from the campus area.

Wow, I cannot disagree with you more but you certainly are allowed your opinion.

[jbock13]

Up next on I've Got A Secret...

[Purple Haize]

Apparently according to someone now being interviewed on the radio feels LU is auditioning for a spot in the ACC and compared LU to Ohio State the year they were ineligible and ran the table. Sweet Babh Ray

[SumItUp]

Apparently according to someone now being interviewed on the radio feels LU is auditioning for a spot in the ACC and compared LU to Ohio State the year they were ineligible and ran the table. Sweet Babh Ray

Did someone interview Ballcoach?

[flamehunter]

That was Paul Rutigliano and PH completely mis-represented what he said. He said it makes sense for us to be playing ACC because of the regionality of opponents and used the term alliance in referring to the number of different ACC teams we will be playing. Rich Roth specifically asked did that mean we were auditioning for the ACC and Paul said no that's not at all what he meant. He did say that would be a dream scenario, or something to that effect.
As for the Ohio state reference, he likened this year's goal for LU to the year that the Buckeyes were ineligible for post season and ran the table. In other words, have the absolute best regular season possible to make up somewhat for the lack of a post-season berth.

[Purple Haize]

That was Paul Rutigliano and PH completely mis-represented what he said. He said it makes sense for us to be playing ACC because of the regionality of opponents and used the term alliance in referring to the number of different ACC teams we will be playing. Rich Roth specifically asked did that mean we were auditioning for the ACC and Paul said no that's not at all what he meant. He did say that would be a dream scenario, or something to that effect.
As for the Ohio state reference, he likened this year's goal for LU to the year that the Buckeyes were ineligible for post season and ran the table. In other words, have the absolute best regular season possible to make up somewhat for the lack of a post-season berth.

Did you catch his last sentence after deny that's what he meant? Something to the effect 'We will show the ACC what we have and go from there'. So he insinuated. Sorta denied it then threw it out there again. That type of thinking is bound to make people like Cruzen exctatic.
The interview will be up on SoundCloud listen for yourself.

[cruzan_flame13]

Firstly, keep me out of this. Secondly, I usually would never take your word out of anything because you believe everything you post here is reasonable. I only point out what I'd like to possibly happen for LU (no matter how long it takes) and that it can happen even if you or anyone disagree. They've been many occurances throughout college sports that wasn't suppose to happen, but it did. So looking at flameshunter's message, you (PH) could've assumed what you have posted and it may not have been the case. If that Paul had responded the way he did in the discussion, then it would logically makes sense to compare OSU situation years back to what we're dealing with since it wouldn't mean as much (although having a good season could still be a benefactor with recruiting and experience). That doesn't mean he's saying that LU is just like OSU overall. Of course I'll have to listen to it for myself, but looking at your responses towards some of my posted content, you do take things out of proportion at times. Sometimes realism can be overturned by miraculous events/actions. Take a chill pill.

[Purple Haize]

Firstly, keep me out of this. Secondly, I usually would never take your word out of anything because you believe everything you post here is reasonable. I only point out what I'd like to possibly happen for LU (no matter how long it takes) and that it can happen even if you or anyone disagree. They've been many occurances throughout college sports that wasn't suppose to happen, but it did. So looking at flameshunter's message, you (PH) could've assumed what you have posted and it may not have been the case. If that Paul had responded the way he did in the discussion, then it would logically makes sense to compare OSU situation years back to what we're dealing with since it wouldn't mean as much (although having a good season could still be a benefactor with recruiting and experience). That doesn't mean he's saying that LU is just like OSU overall. Of course I'll have to listen to it for myself, but looking at your responses towards some of my posted content, you do take things out of proportion at times. Sometimes realism can be overturned by miraculous events/actions. Take a chill pill.

Dude I'm so chill I make clonazepam look like biker meth. You're the one who gets their g string in a wad over a little ribbing. I couldn't care less about the OSU comparison but he did make it. It's that ACC thing he brought up , backed away from then brought up again. I thought of you because you put a lot of faith in pie in the sky stuff like The Easter Bunny Unicorns and LU to the ACC

[Class of 20Something]

To get us back on track.

I think most of us agree, that as long as even/winning seasons happen with these schedules, it's better than the Sun Belt or CUSA. I had considered the AAC as our 10-15 year goal. I hadn't considered another conference shake up that left a vacancy in the ACC. What would have to happen for LU to get ND's ACC contract? Would the Fans want that? Would the school?

This is just from a what if. I don't think it's likely. But we can have some fun talking about a what if.

[Kricket]

I'm glad there are people who think big in Liberty Athletics. I think National Championships should be the long term goal, and if the AAC or the ACC is step to getting to that goal, then that should be another major goal of LU. There's nothing wrong with saying that. Obviously, winning in the short term is the most critical for any of the major goals the football team has in mind, so that should be #1 priority.

[flamehunter]

That was Paul Rutigliano and PH completely mis-represented what he said. He said it makes sense for us to be playing ACC because of the regionality of opponents and used the term alliance in referring to the number of different ACC teams we will be playing. Rich Roth specifically asked did that mean we were auditioning for the ACC and Paul said no that's not at all what he meant. He did say that would be a dream scenario, or something to that effect.
As for the Ohio state reference, he likened this year's goal for LU to the year that the Buckeyes were ineligible for post season and ran the table. In other words, have the absolute best regular season possible to make up somewhat for the lack of a post-season berth.

Did you catch his last sentence after deny that's what he meant? Something to the effect 'We will show the ACC what we have and go from there'. So he insinuated. Sorta denied it then threw it out there again. That type of thinking is bound to make people like Cruzen exctatic.
The interview will be up on SoundCloud listen for yourself.

Sorry if I sounded a little overly critical PH. That wasn't my intent. I heard that last line as well but took that as"kool-aid" drnking, marketing type talk. I don't think anyone who knows anything about college sports at LU realistically could expect for us to be in the ACC anytime in the next 10-15 years (or 25 for that matter) at least. But what do I know. I didn't think we'd be going FBS Indy ever either.

[Purple Haize]

To get us back on track.

I think most of us agree, that as long as even/winning seasons happen with these schedules, it's better than the Sun Belt or CUSA. I had considered the AAC as our 10-15 year goal. I hadn't considered another conference shake up that left a vacancy in the ACC. What would have to happen for LU to get ND's ACC contract? Would the Fans want that? Would the school?

This is just from a what if. I don't think it's likely. But we can have some fun talking about a what if.

I'll play you're 'What if...' game
ND is on the decline in FB. It was glaring for all to see a few years ago when they backed in to the National Championship game
LU hires Briles and magically all these wonderful Christian athletes appear. Even landing the next Tebow/RG3.
During the Independent run these bands of religious renegades go all Fresno/Boise St and win some incredible games culminating in a New Years eveish Bowl upset of some big school
Then the bottom falls out for FBS schools financially. UAB is now the norm not the exception. The P5, to save themselves start their Super League and only schools with the cash on hand are allowed to join
Money is still no object for LU.
Lu strokes the check.
LU takes someone's spot in the ACC Dvision of the P5 Super Conference

You're welcome

[Purple Haize]

That was Paul Rutigliano and PH completely mis-represented what he said. He said it makes sense for us to be playing ACC because of the regionality of opponents and used the term alliance in referring to the number of different ACC teams we will be playing. Rich Roth specifically asked did that mean we were auditioning for the ACC and Paul said no that's not at all what he meant. He did say that would be a dream scenario, or something to that effect.
As for the Ohio state reference, he likened this year's goal for LU to the year that the Buckeyes were ineligible for post season and ran the table. In other words, have the absolute best regular season possible to make up somewhat for the lack of a post-season berth.

Did you catch his last sentence after deny that's what he meant? Something to the effect 'We will show the ACC what we have and go from there'. So he insinuated. Sorta denied it then threw it out there again. That type of thinking is bound to make people like Cruzen exctatic.
The interview will be up on SoundCloud listen for yourself.

Sorry if I sounded a little overly critical PH. That wasn't my intent. I heard that last line as well but took that as"kool-aid" drnking, marketing type talk. I don't think anyone who knows anything about college sports at LU realistically could expect for us to be in the ACC anytime in the next 10-15 years (or 25 for that matter) at least. But what do I know. I didn't think we'd be going FBS Indy ever either.

It's all good. I still love you like a C Block Cell mate
The key phrase you uttered, and why it jumped out to me, is anyone who knows anything about college sports at LU reallistically...... That's a small number.
I knew Independent was an option. At least LU appears to be going all in with it though which is a change, sorta, from the past. The concern comes if LU isn't winning these big name games they schedule or the return dates are bought out. However impressive work being done by the one of the constant component people there I'm not allowed to mention

[ballcoach15]

A 10-15 year window to get in a big conference is too long. I think the window is no more than 5-7 years, maybe not that long.