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By 01LUGrad
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adam42381 wrote:Well, today was a first for me. Liberty was discussed at length on a local sports radio show that airs on the local ESPN Radio affiliate. It wasn't too positive.
I have a good friend who hosts a popular sports radio talk show. He doesn't care one way or the other about Liberty or LU athletics and he called me late last night in disbelief over the hire. The guy then wanted to know if he could interview me on the air to get my reaction as a former LU athlete. I calmly told him that wasn't a good idea at the moment.
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By Damien Sordelett
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Purple Haize wrote:
Damien Sordelett wrote:
R i wrote:I am going paraphrase a quote by Damien, that I think is what this entire uproar is about.

" McCaw did not want to discuss the situation at Baylor because of pending legal ramifications, however I get the feeling from McCaw that there will be a time when everyone knows exactly what happened at Baylor, and McCaw can freely answer for his roll "

If I did not get that exactly right Damien, I apologize. Great insight from you as always. I feel like McCaw not being able to talk about it, is the reason we are all confused and questioning some of it.
You nailed the paraphrase. McCaw deflected the question of Baylor yesterday by saying how much he enjoyed his time there and the friendships he made. In the university's lengthy statement to the media yesterday afternoon and the release of Falwell's answers to common questions, that topic was specifically mentioned: McCaw and his lawyers will find the appropriate time in the future to address those issues that led to his resignation at Baylor.

Here is the link to Falwell's answers to questions surrounding the hire: http://www.liberty.edu/news/index.cfm?P ... MID=215740
Was that the first time you have worn a neck tie since college? THATS what we really want to know!!!
The wife bought it for me to wear to her brother's wedding back in August. Finally found an excuse to wear it again.
By phoenix
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I keep seeing the forgiveness thing thrown up, and yes we should be willing to forgive. But just because the rapist is forgiven doesn't mean i let him take my daughter to the prom.
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By prototype
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lynchburgwildcats wrote:
prototype wrote:You guys jumped on Jerry, Jr. for his support of Trump, like he was supporting Hitler - then come to find out that Jerry, Jr. was supporting the very person that a majority of the Nation voted for
Trump lost the popular vote
and you missed the last part of that statement...
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By prototype
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phoenix wrote:I keep seeing the forgiveness thing thrown up, and yes we should be willing to forgive. But just because the rapist is forgiven doesn't mean i let him take my daughter to the prom.
So now McCaw is a rapist? and he' trying to take your daughter to the prom? wow...
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By Purple Haize
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BuryYourDuke wrote:I don't think that was the point.

I've not been overly critical of the hire. I do wish it was handled differently. I think I'm the circumstances people really are owed some explanation over the issues here. These aren't allegations of rules violations, or some sort of property crimes. I can't think of much that is worse than covering up the gang rape of a young woman. Step back and think about that, and what it would take for you to do that. It's a serious charge, and it demands to be addressed. I hope he is totally innocent. We need to know that he is though. The parents of 18 year old girls need to know it. We have that responsibility to ask the questions and demand that of our leadership.
It can be argued there was a lot of shady stuff that went on at Baylor while he was there but what is known is that he did cover up at least 1 gang rape. Let's say that together. Gang. Rape. Proto won't believe any news outlet so there isn't much hope. Probably didn't even read the report to the Board of Regents But Baylor admits, the FB coach admits that the AD knew about it. AT BEST he told the football coach to handle it and let it go at that. That just blows my mind.
A coach from Sport A says 'Mr AD one of my players was gang raped by some football players'
AD calls footbal coach 'Coach some of your players may have gang raped a player from Sport A. Could you lol into that?'
Football Coach 'Sure'
The end.
As a decent human being I would want to follow up with either Sport A coach to see how the player was doing or the FB coach to see if my starting line up consisted of people involved in a gang rape. But by his own testimony he just left it to the FB Coach and NEVER FOLLOWED UP. That was after he denied knowledge. That his basically what HE testified to. Not some MSM spin.
I ve already made my points on the amount of time it took to initiate investigations and the report is damning in it appraisal of how he dealt with Title IX. Say what you will about it, but for a school of that stature and those resources to be so woefully under sourced is mind blowing. And he was in charge.
There is more out there. But the above are facts. They are from the University, actual statements in depositions from those involved and from the report to the Regents. With these items there is no need to 'wait and see'
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By Purple Haize
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JR was on WIQO. Said McCaw was totally committed to Title IX. Obviously didn't read the report
Said the Board of Regents said he could stay but felt it was best he leave for 'healing'
Said Ian was an 'innocent bystander' in everything
'Jeff Barber resigned on his own and you should ask him about what happened'
'Alumni are the harshest critics'

Did admit there were 2 incidents that were under investigation at Baylor. One Ian knew about one he didn't. JR said LU's lawyers thought that it was incumbent on the accuser to handle it not the AD even after the AD was made aware.
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By Jonathan Carone
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Purple Haize wrote:'Jeff Barber resigned on his own and you should ask him about what happened.'
"I set up a meeting with Jerry on that Thursday to talk about making a change with the football program. I had facts and figures to back up the change. Before I could even get to the proposal, Jerry said that hiring coaches was a large part of my job and that I wasn't very good at it. He then informed me that there were two press releases written - one saying I was fired and one saying I resigned - and I could choose which one would go out at 1PM that day."

Note: for people who take things way too seriously, Jeff didn't actually say that. That's me playing the Jeff character.
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By flamesfilmguy
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Jonathan Carone wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:'Jeff Barber resigned on his own and you should ask him about what happened.'
"I set up a meeting with Jerry on that Thursday to talk about making a change with the football program. I had facts and figures to back up the change. Before I could even get to the proposal, Jerry said that hiring coaches was a large part of my job and that I wasn't very good at it. He then informed me that there were two press releases written - one saying I was fired and one saying I resigned - and I could choose which one would go out at 1PM that day."

Note: for people who take things way too seriously, Jeff didn't actually say that. That's me playing the Jeff character.
I hate to say it but even though i know you were saying that in jest it may not be too far from what actually happened.
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By flamesfilmguy
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Purple Haize wrote:[*]
BuryYourDuke wrote:I don't think that was the point.

I've not been overly critical of the hire. I do wish it was handled differently. I think I'm the circumstances people really are owed some explanation over the issues here. These aren't allegations of rules violations, or some sort of property crimes. I can't think of much that is worse than covering up the gang rape of a young woman. Step back and think about that, and what it would take for you to do that. It's a serious charge, and it demands to be addressed. I hope he is totally innocent. We need to know that he is though. The parents of 18 year old girls need to know it. We have that responsibility to ask the questions and demand that of our leadership.
It can be argued there was a lot of shady stuff that went on at Baylor while he was there but what is known is that he did cover up at least 1 gang rape. Let's say that together. Gang. Rape. Proto won't believe any news outlet so there isn't much hope. Probably didn't even read the report to the Board of Regents But Baylor admits, the FB coach admits that the AD knew about it. AT BEST he told the football coach to handle it and let it go at that. That just blows my mind.
A coach from Sport A says 'Mr AD one of my players was gang raped by some football players'
AD calls footbal coach 'Coach some of your players may have gang raped a player from Sport A. Could you lol into that?'
Football Coach 'Sure'
The end.
As a decent human being I would want to follow up with either Sport A coach to see how the player was doing or the FB coach to see if my starting line up consisted of people involved in a gang rape. But by his own testimony he just left it to the FB Coach and NEVER FOLLOWED UP. That was after he denied knowledge. That his basically what HE testified to. Not some MSM spin.
I ve already made my points on the amount of time it took to initiate investigations and the report is damning in it appraisal of how he dealt with Title IX. Say what you will about it, but for a school of that stature and those resources to be so woefully under sourced is mind blowing. And he was in charge.
There is more out there. But the above are facts. They are from the University, actual statements in depositions from those involved and from the report to the Regents. With these items there is no need to 'wait and see'
Thanks PH I didn't feel like writing all that out. Like its been said before at best he knew about it and did nothing but contact briles. (thats fact) At worst It was a massive cover up. either way I'm not ok with how this went down and how we are moving forward with it.
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By flamesfilmguy
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Jonathan Carone wrote:That wasn't in jest. That's what happened.
In jest meaning those weren't actually jeffs words. I know that is probably a perfect paraphrase though.
By thepostman
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The thing is I don't disagree that it was probably time to move on from Jeff. This school just can't seem to do anything the right way though. It is infuriating.
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By Purple Haize
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adam42381 wrote:Seriously, these threads need to be merged and the other one locked.
I'm just ignoring the other thread
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By Jonathan Carone
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He told The Post that he doesn’t see the Christian value of forgiveness as a reasonable explanation for hiring McCaw. “I’m a Christian. I’ve been given so much grace,” said Schmeig, who aspires to become a youth pastor. “There’s a difference between grace and putting someone in a position where they can do the things they’ve already done.”
There's your winner right there.
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By Purple Haize
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Liberty22 wrote:A glowing piece from the Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act ... 2c87d0abed
You can't trust quotes from the Washington Post. They were Anti Trunp so obviously they are Anti Liberty. I'm sure they misquoted the quotes from the reports! :roll:
By KingsKId
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Jerry's disingenuous at best, outright lying at worst, nature continues to astound me. His intimation that Barber "resigned on his own" and you "should talk to him" is nothing but utter contempt for all of us as fools. Everybody in the tower knows the truth. It was two weeks ago from today that Barber scheduled the meeting with Jerry. The news came out the next day on Thursday. Jeff went in with no intention of resigning. He went to discuss many things but at the top of the list was his desire to make a change in the leadership of the football program based on issues on and off the field. That is why Margeux Gill made her infamous tweet the next day, everybody close to the situation knew what was going down. Obviously Jerry Jr decided to make a different change based on his relationship with TG. The reason Jerry Jr said you should talk to Jeff is because of the deal that was struck. He knows Jeff can't talk negatively about LU. Jeff walked away with some added compensation based on a gag order versus if he didn't keep his mouth shut. If you work on this campus, you know it is the Liberty Way of doing things under this administration. Their belief is that they will pay for your silence.
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By Purple Haize
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The interview from this morning on WIQO is up.
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