[VAGolf]

It's not meant to award fairness...it's a freaking T.V. show. It's meant to entertain. The committee wasn't drunk...the committee searched for watchable match-ups and did a fine job.

Kentucky fans are dumber than dumb to be complaining. Why does it matter if there is a lower number next to your name? You're LIKELY getting Indiana in the second round. That's an easy win. The committee gifted you a Sweet 16 bid. Shut-up with idiocy for a minute and look around you.

There's never once been a mandate that a school has to win their conference in order to receive a 1 seed. You're making that up.

Agh. I miss football.

[lynchburgwildcats]

It's not meant to award fairness...it's a freaking T.V. show. It's meant to entertain. The committee wasn't drunk...the committee searched for watchable match-ups and did a fine job.

Kentucky fans are dumber than dumb to be complaining. Why does it matter if there is a lower number next to your name? You're LIKELY getting Indiana in the second round. That's an easy win. The committee gifted you a Sweet 16 bid. Shut-up with idiocy for a minute and look around you.

There's never once been a mandate that a school has to win their conference in order to receive a 1 seed. You're making that up.

Agh. I miss football.

Coming on strong with the idiocy tonight I see.

I'm not even complaining about Kentucky's seed. A 4 seed is reasonably fair. I simply referenced how several teams seeds don't make any sense given the committee said they used Pomeroy to help with seeding.

And I never said there was a mandate to win the conference to be a 1 seed, please read instead of being a moron. I was pointing out that the criteria they are using isn't consistent. They specifically said Oregon got a 1 for winning their conference. You can toss out whatever lies you want to back up your statements but that is 100% fact.

That criteria applies to Oregon, but apparently it doesn't apply to UVA or Michigan State. These power conference teams needs to be judged on the same criteria, not whatever the selection committee decides to pick and choose for each team

[VAGolf]

It's not meant to award fairness...it's a freaking T.V. show. It's meant to entertain. The committee wasn't drunk...the committee searched for watchable match-ups and did a fine job.

Kentucky fans are dumber than dumb to be complaining. Why does it matter if there is a lower number next to your name? You're LIKELY getting Indiana in the second round. That's an easy win. The committee gifted you a Sweet 16 bid. Shut-up with idiocy for a minute and look around you.

There's never once been a mandate that a school has to win their conference in order to receive a 1 seed. You're making that up.

Agh. I miss football.

Coming on strong with the idiocy tonight I see.

I'm not even complaining about Kentucky's seed. A 4 seed is reasonably fair. I simply referenced how several teams seeds don't make any sense given the committee said they used Pomeroy to help with seeding.

And I never said there was a mandate to win the conference to be a 1 seed, please read instead of being a moron. I was pointing out that the criteria they are using isn't consistent. They specifically said Oregon got a 1 for winning their conference. You can toss out whatever lies you want to back up your statements but that is 100% fact.

That criteria applies to Oregon, but apparently it doesn't apply to UVA or Michigan State. These power conference teams needs to be judged on the same criteria, not whatever the selection committee decides to pick and choose for each team

Oregon winning their conference and UVA winning theirs are two different factors. Look at HOW Oregon won their conference...that is what put them over the top. I'm not interested in what response the committee has...the response/explanation is never the story. It's easy to see what they're doing.

Texas A&M may get Texas in the second round. Gonzaga may get Utah. Kentucky may get Indiana. Those are match-ups to attract rivalries and fans.

UConn gets 9. They'll get by Colorado and play an interesting game with Kansas. You could have given them a better seed, but why do that when you can force a 1 seed to play a tough second round game?

Oregon was given a 1 seed but it's just a stupid number. It means nothing. You don't want to be Oregon. They're going to play Saint Josephs (who is on a run) or Cincinatti (who has multiple big wins, some on the road). If they make it to the second weekend, they'll play Baylor or Duke. Yes, it's a 1 seed but it is an AWFUL 1 seed.

Michigan State sliced through the Big 10 and received a 2 seed. Their bracket is basically a bye to the final four.

This tournament isn't about getting the seeds right, it's about getting match-ups right and the committee did a perfect job.

[alabama24]

Off Topic: this is why it'll never be enough if they keep adding teams to the NCAAF playoff. Y'all bickering over which penny ante team should have made it in.

Resume your madness. Lol

[VAGolf]

Off Topic: this is why it'll never be enough if they keep adding teams to the NCAAF playoff. Y'all bickering over which penny ante team should have made it in.

Resume your madness. I chortle audibly.

Exactly! It doesn't matter how many teams you allow in the tournament/playoff. If you expand the field, you are just moving the argument, not eliminating it.

[Chris Lang]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

[olldflame]

Off Topic: this is why it'll never be enough if they keep adding teams to the NCAAF playoff. Y'all bickering over which penny ante team should have made it in.

Resume your madness. I chortle audibly.

Exactly! It doesn't matter how many teams you allow in the tournament/playoff. If you expand the field, you are just moving the argument, not eliminating it.

There actually is a way to eliminate it, and IMHO it's really not as crazy as it sounds. Include everyone.

[flamehunter]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

[ballcoach15]

The Syracuse coach should not have been suspended for 9 games. He should have been suspended for the entire season.

[thepostman]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

Come on Chris. It's bj. You should be use to his ridiculous posts by now.

[Humble_Opinion]

[BJWilliams]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

I am not arguing why they didn't have their coach. I'm saying that that fact (that they didn't have their coach) probably played into how the rest of the committee looked at their resumé

[flamehunter]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

I am not arguing why they didn't have their coach. I'm saying that that fact (that they didn't have their coach) probably played into how the rest of the committee looked at their resumé

But if they took into account that they didn't have their coach, doesn't that negate the penalty of being suspended? It absolutely does! That should not have factored into their consideration of their record AT ALL.

[RubberMallet]

bj will say "IM JUST SAYING WHAT I THINK THEY TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION" without taking any position on the matter because he couldn't explain his way out of a paper bag.

[thepostman]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

I am not arguing why they didn't have their coach. I'm saying that that fact (that they didn't have their coach) probably played into how the rest of the committee looked at their resumé

Syracuse made it based on their brand name in the college basketball world. If they are even close to tournament worthy they will make it.

It has nothing to do with anything else. I wouldn't call it a lack of morality by the committee. 68 teams make it. It's a huge field. Programs that didn't make it should talk to college football coaches and realize how good they have it.

[BJWilliams]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

I am not arguing why they didn't have their coach. I'm saying that that fact (that they didn't have their coach) probably played into how the rest of the committee looked at their resumé

But if they took into account that they didn't have their coach, doesn't that negate the penalty of being suspended? It absolutely does! That should not have factored into their consideration of their record AT ALL.

Do I think it should have been? No not really. The man did cheat as Lang astutely noted. Without being in the room, I'm guessing that it came up at some point in the discussion.

Do I think it mitigates the effects of the suspension as you question? Probably. I mean when I heard the score on the radio driving home from work last week during the ACC tournament, I assumed they were done and headed to the NIT.

sticks tongue out at RM

[alabama24]

Off Topic: this is why it'll never be enough if they keep adding teams to the NCAAF playoff. Y'all bickering over which penny ante team should have made it in.

Resume your madness. I chortle audibly.

Exactly! It doesn't matter how many teams you allow in the tournament/playoff. If you expand the field, you are just moving the argument, not eliminating it.

There actually is a way to eliminate it, and IMHO it's really not as crazy as it sounds. Include everyone.

Sure! Just start on September 1st and the first time you lose a game, your season is over. Sounds good to me. lol

[thepostman]

Do I think it should have been? No not really. The man did cheat as Lang astutely noted. Without being in the room, I'm guessing that it came up at some point in the discussion.

Do I think it mitigates the effects of the suspension as you question? Probably. I mean when I heard the score on the radio driving home from work last week during the ACC tournament, I assumed they were done and headed to the NIT.

sticks tongue out at RM

you're sticking your tongue out at someone? that is odd...

[lynchburgwildcats]

Syracuse was missing its coach for nine games because he's a cheating POS. It should get no sympathy for that.

[olldflame]

2 more rounds (one week) for a field of 256 bama. At that point the "bubble" would consist of bottom feeders so low they would be very hard pressed to argue they reserve a chance to compete for a national championship. 2 or 3 more days for another partial round and NOBODY has a gripe. I'm not advocating for it, but there are some who do. A bonus would be that the dinosaur that is the NIT would finally become extinct, as would it's upstart competitors for the scraps.

[VAGolf]

2 more rounds (one week) for a field of 256 bama. At that point the "bubble" would consist of bottom feeders so low they would be very hard pressed to argue they reserve a chance to compete for a national championship. 2 or 3 more days for another partial round and NOBODY has a gripe. I'm not advocating for it, but there are some who do. A bonus would be that the dinosaur that is the NIT would finally become extinct, as would it's upstart competitors for the scraps.

Yuck, yuck, yuck. I don't need to watch Fairleigh Dickinson to know they have zero shot to win the tournament. Since seeding began, only four champions were seeded worse than a 4; the worst of those being an 8 and a 5 has never won it.

The odds of a worse than 4 seed winning the tournament are so slim, I would be totally fine with cutting the field to 32 teams. If a team wins their conference tournament but won't qualify for the national tournament, they automatically qualify for the NIT. That obviously won't ever happen but I wish we would stop putting teams like UNC-Asheville in a tournament that they have no ability to win.

[flamehunter]

Boo. Watching teams seeded 13, 14, 15 play well and sometimes win are what makes the first and second rounds exciting. The following rounds are often more boring with only one or two good games per day. Give Cinderella a chance to play. They know they can't win the whole thing, or do they???

[VAGolf]

Boo. Watching teams seeded 13, 14, 15 play well and sometimes win are what makes the first and second rounds exciting. The following rounds are often more boring with only one or two good games per day. Give Cinderella a chance to play. They know they can't win the whole thing, or do they???

Can a 13, 14 or 15 seed win a game? Sure. Can they win the tournament? No chance. That's why when 14 seeded Lehigh knocks off 3 seeded Kansas, then tournament gets worse. Yes, you get your moment of excitement...which is then followed by awful basketball two days later. The following rounds are more exciting when Duke, Kansas, UNC and Kentucky are playing.

[flamehunter]

That's your opinion. I think more people support what I said. I know the networks and advertisers do and that in the end is what decides it. More games = more revenue. Would we be talking about the Flames basketball team in February much if we knew they weren't going to the tournament even if they win the conference tournament? I don't think so.

[VAGolf]

That's your opinion. I think more people support what I said. I know the networks and advertisers do and that in the end is what decides it. More games = more revenue. Would we be talking about the Flames basketball team in February much if we knew they weren't going to the tournament even if they win the conference tournament? I don't think so.

Networks and advertisers don't. Look at the ratings during Butler's national championship game, VCU's final four run, and Wichita State's run. No one watched.

The only people that tune in to watch mid-majors are college basketball diehards.

If people truly cared about small schools, why don't they watch them?