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#502441
Coke > Pepsi
Coke 0 > Diet Pepsi
Powerade > Gatorade
Sprite > Sierra Mist

My Dew > Mello Yellow

Coke - 4
Pepsi - 1
No contest
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By Cider Jim
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#502442
Purple, why would you rank PowerAde over Gatorade? Doesn't Gatorade have many more flavors, including the original lemon lime, which is like drinking from the 1970s?
Last edited by Cider Jim on January 16th, 2016, 8:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Cider Jim wrote:Purple, why would you rank PowerAde over Gatorade? Doesn't Gatorade have many more flavors, including the original lemon lime, which is like drinking from the 1970s?
If you were drinking it out of a glass bottle if agree with you!
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By adam42381
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Purple Haize wrote:Coke > Pepsi
Coke 0 > Diet Pepsi
Powerade > Gatorade
Sprite > Sierra Mist

My Dew > Mello Yellow

Coke - 4
Pepsi - 1
No contest
Shouldn't the Coke Zero comparison be with Pepsi Max (which is better)?
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By Purple Haize
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I thought Pepsi Max just had more caffeine? Either way it's not that good. Coke Zero is the best diet Cola on the market
By ATrain
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Sly Fox wrote:This seems like it needs its own thread.
We already have 2-3 threads devoted to the beverage industry.

That said, I rarely drink soda or sports drinks but when I do, I prefer Coke over Pepsi. However, I prefer Gatorade to Powerade, Dr. Pepper is greater than Mr. Pipp, and if I buy bottled water, Aquafina over Dasani. However, what really needs to be sold on campus: Cheerwine, but only in the glass bottles.
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By prototype
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ALUmnus wrote:
Humble_Opinion wrote:
Colbster757 wrote:I talked to a close friend that works in the financial support office. I asked him if he thought Liberty would ever have money problems with all they are spending. He said that with Liberty making over a billion last year (with their online programs) they cannot spend the money fast enough (to maintain non profit status :D )
By Financial Support Office, I assume Financial Aid. No offense, but no one in that office has anywhere near the amount of information required to answer the question you asked. Very few people have a "big picture" view of the overall finances of the university.

I say this not to disagree with the assessment, because financially speaking, the university is among the healthiest in all of academia. However, we can fall just as fast as we rose. Financial success and security is a relatively new thing to LU, and while they have expanded the residential campus to accomodate a sizeable increase in enrollment over the past 5 years, it's hard for me to believe that the net variable revenue per new student outweighs the net increase in costs associated with the new building expenses. I could be wrong about that and I hope I am.
I hope LU is thinking about putting a big chunk of this profit into some sort of scholarship endowment or private loan program. I fully expect federal funds to be unavailable to private Christian institutions in the near future.
They are. We went from having zero endowment to having one close to a billion dollars. The interest alone will help us in the future. Jerry, Jr. knows what he is doing - don't worry Liberty will be around for a VERY long time and will continue to build and expand their footprint.
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By badger74
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There is no $1Billion endowment. That is the total assets including all the campus and owned investments. Endowment funds are cash investments in securities and other non campus assets not currently earmarked for spending in near term. It's the permanent piggy bank. LU might have $100M that could function as a permanent endowment fund. Sizable but UVa has over $6 Billion endowment for example.
By rogers3
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badger74 wrote:There is no $1Billion endowment. That is the total assets including all the campus and owned investments. Endowment funds are cash investments in securities and other non campus assets not currently earmarked for spending in near term. It's the permanent piggy bank. LU might have $100M that could function as a permanent endowment fund. Sizable but UVa has over $6 Billion endowment for example.
Don't waste your time badger. This has been discussed in the past on other threads and quite a few people don't understand the ins and outs of endowments. They will argue about it, nonetheless. I sometimes wonder where the money goes, since LU has used a large bond package to pay for a lot of the construction we see (and that was reported over a year ago). I do think that there must be some sizable investments out there, and there is quite a bit of investment property off campus. Hopefully, LU isn't trying to include the Mall in its portfolio- a sale is pending. The tax records are public and are pretty easy for someone to find if they are interested.
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By Purple Haize
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rogers3 wrote:
badger74 wrote:There is no $1Billion endowment. That is the total assets including all the campus and owned investments. Endowment funds are cash investments in securities and other non campus assets not currently earmarked for spending in near term. It's the permanent piggy bank. LU might have $100M that could function as a permanent endowment fund. Sizable but UVa has over $6 Billion endowment for example.
Don't waste your time badger. This has been discussed in the past on other threads and quite a few people don't understand the ins and outs of endowments. They will argue about it, nonetheless. I sometimes wonder where the money goes, since LU has used a large bond package to pay for a lot of the construction we see (and that was reported over a year ago). I do think that there must be some sizable investments out there, and there is quite a bit of investment property off campus. Hopefully, LU isn't trying to include the Mall in its portfolio- a sale is pending.
Yeah that bond made me scratch my head
By rogers3
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Purple Haize wrote:
rogers3 wrote:
badger74 wrote:There is no $1Billion endowment. That is the total assets including all the campus and owned investments. Endowment funds are cash investments in securities and other non campus assets not currently earmarked for spending in near term. It's the permanent piggy bank. LU might have $100M that could function as a permanent endowment fund. Sizable but UVa has over $6 Billion endowment for example.
Don't waste your time badger. This has been discussed in the past on other threads and quite a few people don't understand the ins and outs of endowments. They will argue about it, nonetheless. I sometimes wonder where the money goes, since LU has used a large bond package to pay for a lot of the construction we see (and that was reported over a year ago). I do think that there must be some sizable investments out there, and there is quite a bit of investment property off campus. Hopefully, LU isn't trying to include the Mall in its portfolio- a sale is pending.
Yeah that bond made me scratch my head
Based on LU's credit, it is probably cheaper to use borrowed money than to lose out on the profits they are earning from other investments...at least, that is the typical scenario. Bonds also improve an entities working capital position. Last return I saw was from 2013 so the numbers don't tell much about today's financial picture.
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By Sly Fox
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That's exactly what I was about to reply, rogers3. We are scoring incredible rates on our financing thanks to our credit ratings.

The endowment funds of many schools including UVa are nowhere near what they were a year ago due to the market drops. I'm not saying that endowments are not a good investment strategy. I'm just noting that our position of cash & real estate has its benefits when securities are not performing well.
#503854
badger74 wrote:There is no $1Billion endowment. That is the total assets including all the campus and owned investments. Endowment funds are cash investments in securities and other non campus assets not currently earmarked for spending in near term. It's the permanent piggy bank. LU might have $100M that could function as a permanent endowment fund. Sizable but UVa has over $6 Billion endowment for example.
You're wrong. The $1 billion figure is NET assets at this point and as of 30 June 2014 it was $1.4 Billion. Total Assets is approaching $2 Billion, as of the end of 2014, meaning that as of today it's probably north of $2 Billion. A good portion of LU's assets are more liquid in nature, especially when compared to other traditional universities, such as UVA. This is a strength for LU vs. UVA, because LU gets to dictate what it does with it's money as opposed to having it all tied up in temporarily and permanently restricted funds.

LU's endowment is technically a quasi-endowment, meaning it carries self-imposed restrictions set by the Board. If you include cash on hand + the total investment portfolio of the university, that number is essentially $1 billion.
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