[Purple Haize]

I wish NCAA would eliminate conference championship games.

If committee had their way, the same teams would be in hunt for playoff every year:

Okalhoma, Texas, Southern Cal, Stanford, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State


I think NCAA should treat every team equally, regardless of conference or past history.

Possibly the most illogical thing you have ever said. If you eliminate conference championship games then your second part is correct. The committee WILL favor the same teams over and over. By having a conference championship game all teams are being treated equally. Clemson and MSU are in because they won their conference championship game. Heck you could have had Iowa and an outside shot of UNC. How is that favoring the schools you mentioned ?

[ballcoach15]

The pollsters favor the schools I mentioned. Okalhoma has no business in playoffs. Once they beat OK State everyone fell in love with them.


For the record, I dislike each of the teams I mentioned. I wish they all would go 0-12 every year. or 1-11 since some play each other.

[Purple Haize]

The pollsters favor the schools I mentioned. Okalhoma has no business in playoffs. Once they beat OK State everyone fell in love with them.


For the record, I dislike each of the teams I mentioned. I wish they all would go 0-12 every year. or 1-11 since some play each other.

Then who would you have put in besides OK and that is not on your list?

[VAGolf]

The pollsters favor the schools I mentioned. Okalhoma has no business in playoffs. Once they beat OK State everyone fell in love with them.


For the record, I dislike each of the teams I mentioned. I wish they all would go 0-12 every year. or 1-11 since some play each other.

That has to be one of the most absurd statements you've made. A lot of people started liking them shortly after that loss to Texas. Their one loss was a rivalry game that almost always results in the lesser talented team winning. Since then, they have easily been the best or the second best team in the country. For once, ensure your bias isn't clouding your view before you make a statement.

[jbock13]

According to ballcoach Gretna probably should have made the CFP.

[flamehunter]

Cut ballcoach some slack. He admits he's biased against those teams and seems to enjoy his version of trash talking about them on here. He's a harmless little fuzzball, and an entertaining one at that.

[Purple Haize]

Cut ballcoach some slack. He admits he's biased against those teams and seems to enjoy his version of trash talking about them on here. He's a harmless little fuzzball, and an entertaining one at that.

We are just trying to see who he thinks should be in the play offs. We already know he is biased about anything done after the advent of the steam locomotive

[soccer7]

Just wanted to give my two cents to the conversation. Oklahoma being in the playoffs is interesting for two reasons. The first would be that an Iowa team that was undefeated in the regular season and gave Michigan State a run in the Championship should still have gotten in. This shows the committee is not sticking it to the Big 12 for not having a championship game. If they were trying to prove a point then Iowa would be the four seed. Then you have to look at the fact that Oklahoma is a really good team with one loss but no championship game. They got dropped a spot in the aftermath of championship weekend. This really wasn't do to the fact they didn't have a championship game is was the fact that the committee wanted to drop them so they didn't play Alabama in the first round. They truly want and Alabama/Oklaham championship game.

[bluejacket]

This shows the committee is not sticking it to the Big 12 for not having a championship game. If they were trying to prove a point then Iowa would be the four seed.

Conference championships have always trumped record and that hasn't changed. Iowa was never getting in without running the table. The way the records stood at the end, Oklahoma was getting in. That said....

If Notre Dame had only lost to Clemson, they would be in over Oklahoma.

If Stanford had only lost to Oregon, they would be in over Oklahoma.

[flameshaw]

I have to say, I have finally come over to the dark side regarding realignment. It would be much better to stay FCS and compete for a national title, than to go to a low-level FBS conference like the SBC. All you play for at that level is a trip to the Toilet Bowl in Squirrel Nuts, Arkansas, during the middle of the day, when no one is watching. Now if an invite were to come from CUSA, that would possibly be a different story. NDSU is in a much better position than being in the SBC.

[Purple Haize]

I have to say, I have finally come over to the dark side regarding realignment. It would be much better to stay FCS and compete for a national title, than to go to a low-level FBS conference like the SBC. All you play for at that level is a trip to the Toilet Bowl in Squirrel Nuts, Arkansas, during the middle of the day, when no one is watching. Now if an invite were to come from CUSA, that would possibly be a different story. NDSU is in a much better position than being in the SBC.

[JakeP50]

I have to say, I have finally come over to the dark side regarding realignment. It would be much better to stay FCS and compete for a national title, than to go to a low-level FBS conference like the SBC. All you play for at that level is a trip to the Toilet Bowl in Squirrel Nuts, Arkansas, during the middle of the day, when no one is watching. Now if an invite were to come from CUSA, that would possibly be a different story. NDSU is in a much better position than being in the SBC.

After how much fun I had going to games this season I would have to agree.

[alabama24]

...but my point is, and has always been, that no one cares about the FCS playoffs.

[bluejacket]

I have to say, I have finally come over to the dark side regarding realignment. It would be much better to stay FCS and compete for a national title, than to go to a low-level FBS conference like the SBC. All you play for at that level is a trip to the Toilet Bowl in Squirrel Nuts, Arkansas, during the middle of the day, when no one is watching. Now if an invite were to come from CUSA, that would possibly be a different story. NDSU is in a much better position than being in the SBC.

This comes up every year around bowl season. And the answer is always the same: FBS is better than FCS. Period. Doesn't matter if it is the Sun Belt.


Complaining about program building bowl games is incredibly short sighted considering of all the other benefits that FBS status brings.

[Purple Haize]

It's about the RIGHT Conference. Not the FIRST Conference

[jcmanson]

The FCS national championship game last year had 1.44 million viewers.

The Camellia Bowl featuring App State / Ohio (ie. crappy Sun Belt Bowl) had 1.9 million viewers.

[VAGolf]

Right. But where are you more likely to get to the "right conference" from? Conference USA has made a habit of picking off Sun Belt schools right?

AAC has made a habit of picking off C-USA schools right?

When the Big 12 finally decides to live up to its name it will most likely find its schools from the AAC.

I promise they won't be looking at the Big South.

C-USA also grabbed ODU and is a much, much more stable conference than the Sun Belt or even the AAC for that matter. The AAC has picked up a few C-USA programs...but has also reached out to the MWC, MAC and independents. We could get invited to the Sun Belt tomorrow and it could implode next year. Then we're possibly sitting as an independent.

Also, did you see the crowd at the Georgia State HOMECOMING game? LU outnumbered them. I love Liberty but the point of moving up should be to expand our growth. If a Big South program can outnumber an Sun Belt school, on the road, during a homecoming game...the ceiling for that conference can only be so high.

Lastly, when is the last time you were attracted to a girl who just wanted to date anyone because that was better than dating no-one?

[VAGolf]

Dude...

1) No one is saying the Sun Belt is awesome. However, if you believe that it is worse or less stable than the Big South in any way, you need to check yourself.

2) We aren't talking about girls. We are talking about football conferences. Sometimes that silly analogy is relevant. This isn't one of those times.

3) ODU and Charlotte are different animals. They are the exception that proves the rule. They were added for their media markets. Our market is looked at as a drag.

1. Never said the Big South was more or less stable.

2. I could make that analogy about anything. If you're a salesman and you seem desperate, a customer will go somewhere else. If you seem desperate in an interview, you won't get the job. My only point is that being desperate isn't attractive. Look at the teams that have been invited into a FBS conference over the past 5-10 years, which of them have been invited because of flaunting feasibility studies or assets?

3. Did you really put ODU and Charlotte in the same sentence concerning realignment? First of all, Charlotte was a C-USA member in 2005. The second they announced they were adding football, there wasn't really a question as to if they would receive an invite from the C-USA. And they've never drawn in the Charlotte market. ODU was also added for several more reasons than their market. Both of those schools happen to be in good markets, but you're mistake if you believe that their market IS the reason they were invited.

[TH Spangler]

A group of "like minded", "private" universities need to get together and form an FBS conference.

[bluejacket]

A group of "like minded", "private" universities need to get together and form an FBS conference.

And who would they be?

[LUminary]

Again, one prime reason to get to FBS regardless of which conference: more appealing opponents. App State might be in the lowly Sun Belt, but they're playing two ACC teams AT HOME soon. That wouldn't be happening if they were still FCS.

[Purple Haize]

I think the addition of Coastal makes the SBC a bit more intriguing If another Eastern team joined I think it becomes more attractive. I'm not sure who that would be, JMU is out, but I'm sure there are 1 or 2 others interested.
As for Bowl Games, there is more too it than that. I would like to know how much Appy and Ohio lost in the Camillia Bowl or whatever it was and how much money the teams lost in the FCS Championship game

[bluejacket]

As for Bowl Games, there is more too it than that. I would like to know how much Appy and Ohio lost in the Camillia Bowl or whatever it was and how much money the teams lost in the FCS Championship game

http://www.foxsports.com/college-footba ... lay-120615

"The Sun Belt Conference, the weakest of the 10 FBS leagues, three years ago put in place a policy that gives each bowl team $250,000 for expenses in addition to the cost of transportation to and from the bowl site. Teams have no ticket obligation and receive 50 percent of the revenue from tickets they sell. The other half goes to the conference.

'All revenue generated from all bowls will be put toward all bowl expenses,'' Sun Belt spokesman John McElwain wrote in an email. ''Any `out of pocket' ticket purchase requirement absorbed by the conference is included in the bowl expenses.'"

[rmiller1959]

This is a good and comprehensive report on Big 12 expansion possibilities:

http://www.campusrush.com/big-12-confer ... 68401.html

[rmiller1959]

Is the chatter about UConn and the Big 12 just speculation, or could they be a contender?

http://www.centralctcommunications.com/ ... 90bdc.html