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By bluejacket
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Coaches' Poll http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/f ... aches-poll
#1 Coastal Carolina
#8 Montana
#13 Liberty

STATS Poll http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/f ... fcs-top-25
#3 Coastal Carolina
#8 Montana
#15 Liberty

AGS Poll http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... EEK-1-2015
#2 Coastal Carolina
#7 Montana
#13 Liberty
By phoenix
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Coastal is going to be over-rated all season, until they lose. Even then, they're going to be a top ten team unless they drop two games.

Shows that it has nothing to do with scheduling, nothing to do with play on the field, and everything to do with public perception. Liberty could run the table with this schedule, including a three point OT win at WVU, and never get more than a #5 ranking in the polls.
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By Purple Haize
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phoenix wrote:Coastal is going to be over-rated all season, until they lose. Even then, they're going to be a top ten team unless they drop two games.

Shows that it has nothing to do with scheduling, nothing to do with play on the field, and everything to do with public perception. Liberty could run the table with this schedule, including a three point OT win at WVU, and never get more than a #5 ranking in the polls.
I'm not sure you are not incorrect :twisted:
By SuperJon
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phoenix wrote:Coastal is going to be over-rated all season, until they lose. Even then, they're going to be a top ten team unless they drop two games.

Shows that it has nothing to do with scheduling, nothing to do with play on the field, and everything to do with public perception. Liberty could run the table with this schedule, including a three point OT win at WVU, and never get more than a #5 ranking in the polls.
I'd say it has to do with sustained success. The schools that have shown they can do it in the playoffs get the benefit of the doubt. We are a couple years off from being there.
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By Purple Haize
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SuperJon wrote:
phoenix wrote:Coastal is going to be over-rated all season, until they lose. Even then, they're going to be a top ten team unless they drop two games.

Shows that it has nothing to do with scheduling, nothing to do with play on the field, and everything to do with public perception. Liberty could run the table with this schedule, including a three point OT win at WVU, and never get more than a #5 ranking in the polls.
I'd say it has to do with sustained success. The schools that have shown they can do it in the playoffs get the benefit of the doubt. We are a couple years off from being there.
BuryYourDuke wrote::roll:
I think it's a valid observation.
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By Purple Haize
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BuryYourDuke wrote:I guess we have different definitions of "sustained success".
Let's say last 5 years. How many playoff appearances? How many playoff wins?
By SuperJon
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BuryYourDuke wrote:I guess we have different definitions of "sustained success".
They've won a lot of games against a weak schedule and made the final four two years in a row. They may not be the best team in the country - and certainly didn't look like it Saturday - but they'll get the votes by default. It's the way the system works.
By SuperJon
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My bad. They lost to NDSU two years in a row. I thought it was final four both years. It was final eight in 2013.

Even with that, they've won. It's been against the MEAC and closer than it should've been, but they've won. They're likely a top ten team this year and are #1 in one poll in week two. It's nothing to get worked up over. Even if they go undefeated, they'll drop once some of the other schools pick up better wins. It's way too early to put any stock in any poll.
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By bluejacket
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The bar is not high if Coastal is having "sustained success."
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By Purple Haize
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adam42381 wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:I'm not sure you are not incorrect :twisted:
The rare triple negative.
I'm not afraid to take it to the next level
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By bluejacket
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ballcoach15 wrote:Coastal is the most over-rated team in football, at any level.
No, that would be VT.
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By Purple Haize
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bluejacket wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:Coastal is the most over-rated team in football, at any level.
No, that would be VT.
Or ND
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By Purple Haize
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Sly Fox wrote:Not by what I saw on Saturday, Haize. Ugh.
It's not like they played anyone good. They always beat up paper tigers
By Humble_Opinion
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Purple Haize wrote:
Sly Fox wrote:Not by what I saw on Saturday, Haize. Ugh.
It's not like they played anyone good. They always beat up paper tigers
Burn :flamingdevil
By coastalalum
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BuryYourDuke wrote:
Purple Haize wrote:
BuryYourDuke wrote:I guess we have different definitions of "sustained success".
Let's say last 5 years. How many playoff appearances? How many playoff wins?
To get a pass for consistently skating on thin ice against joke competition? More than they've done. I know that for darn sure.

Just in the last 5 years? Let's look at this murderer's row....

Savannah State, Concord, Kentucky Wesleyan (TWICE), Brevard (TWICE), St. Francis, PA, and Robert Morris (TWICE - one of which was an L).

What's that thing about glass houses??
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By bluejacket
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Purple Haize wrote:
bluejacket wrote:
ballcoach15 wrote:Coastal is the most over-rated team in football, at any level.
No, that would be VT.
Or ND
ND is slightly overrated, but they have major accomplishments (historically and recently) and are on a different stratosphere from VT.
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By bluejacket
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coastalalum wrote:Just in the last 5 years? Let's look at this murderer's row....

Savannah State, Concord, Kentucky Wesleyan (TWICE), Brevard (TWICE), St. Francis, PA, and Robert Morris (TWICE - one of which was an L).
Agreed. And that's not counting the annual meetings with GWU, PC, and CSU (who was horrible at that point).

At this point, I am fine with Coastal being top 3.
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By bluejacket
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Week 2

Coaches' Poll http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/f ... aches-poll
#1 Coastal Carolina
#7 Montana
#14 Liberty

STATS Poll http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/f ... fcs-top-25
#2 Coastal Carolina
#8 Montana
#15 Liberty

AGS Poll http://www.anygivensaturday.com/showthr ... EEK-2-2015
#2 Coastal Carolina
#8 Montana
#17 Liberty
By LUDad
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West Virginia is listed at #26 in the AP poll & #27 in the Coaches poll. Be nice to see them pull into top 20. Or even higher if they can make a run in the Big 12.
By soccer7
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I love that we drop in the polls after a loss to an FBS team! I am surprised we didn't fall out of the polls or fall to the bottom like we have in the past.
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