[Wvflame2013]

In past few years we have always played the FBS schools better than most thought we would. The last time we went to WVA, I thought WV had a better team than they have now. Also LU is better now than then.

The WVU team this year is lightyears better than that 09 team. That team was Post pat-white era with the worst offensive coordinator in wv history in Jeff Mullen. Say Jeff Mullen is a good offensive coordinator to a wvu fan and they might punch you in the face. There's a reason that our athletic director forced Bill Stewart to fire JM and he personally hired Holgy to replace him.The offense was anemic at times and Jarrett Brown was a turnover machine.The defense was depleted that year as well. This years wvu defense has 3 starting in the secondary that will be in the NFL. And the 2 deep on the offensive and defensive line is amazing. If it wasn't for playing in a depleted Big East, that would've been a bad season. That was the one year Liberty chose to play them at the right time.

[BJWilliams]

Im with forbidden in the camp that we will be competitive.

If you go back to our previous games against "Power 5" schoools post Karcher, we played Wake Forest in 2006 (Danny Rocco's first year), were competitive and lost by 20. Then we go to Morgantown in 2009, play them even steven in the second half and lose by 13. We play NC State in 2011, and we lose by 22, but that margin is only because of back to back turnovers in the 4th quarter leading to 2 Wolfpack TDs. 2012, we play Wake Forest again, and lose by only 3. Last year, we are leading in the third quarter against UNC, and if not for a sequence that goes Punt, Pick 6, Fumble, Fumble...we are right in that game as well.

All that to say, if we play well, we will keep this game closer than about 90% of the board expects, albeit in defeat, and there will be much to be proud of as we get ready to host a Big Sky team for the first time at Williams Stadium (Cal Poly was in I believe the Great West at the time we played them)

[R i]

Forbidden , If I was a player or coach, I get your point. But Im a fan , with a score prediction on a message board. So we are gonna get stomped.

[Purple Haize]

I'm pretty sure no one said we shouldn't compete. You're an athlete it's what you do. You want to do your best against the best so you can take measure of yourself. It's why I don't always look at the scoreboard to tell me if I was successful or not.

[jyoung]

eight of us got tickets last night to travel up and see this game, so I am really hoping Forbidden is right. Might be a long ride home if we lose by 50 plus...

I think that I have confidence in this team playing as well as they can against WVU. It's a pretty experienced team in the offensive skill positions, hopefully we stick to a power running game and let Petey possess. If we can give carries to Des, DJ, Macon, Woodrum, Petey on sweeps, maybe we can chew clock and use Lunsford/turnover luck to win.

More realistically I think we lose by 2 or 3 scores, but play well.

35-20

160 yards

[Rooster Cogburn]

LU 37 WVU 35. 258 p yds. We turn them over thrice and they only turn us over once.
Yep! GoFlames! Believe

[forbidden]

here is a pretty good read

http://collegefootballnews.com/2015/wes ... on-preview

[Purple Haize]

eight of us got tickets last night to travel up and see this game, so I am really hoping Forbidden is right. Might be a long ride home if we lose by 50 plus...

I think that I have confidence in this team playing as well as they can against WVU. It's a pretty experienced team in the offensive skill positions, hopefully we stick to a power running game and let Petey possess. If we can give carries to Des, DJ, Macon, Woodrum, Petey on sweeps, maybe we can chew clock and use Lunsford/turnover luck to win.

More realistically I think we lose by 2 or 3 scores, but play well.

35-20

160 yards

If we try to run a lot of sweeps it WILL be a long day

[Wvflame2013]

The 3-3-5 is a perfect defense against the spread and sweeps because it utilizes quick athletic defensive players. Liberty needs to stay in between the tackles. And rely on wvu linebackers making the wrong judgment on gaps. I wouldn't play in the sweep game because the wvu spur and safeties are scary. Just watch the kj dillion and Karl Joseph highlight hype videos.

[BJWilliams]

Man, Im glad none of the players post on here (well the current ones), because if they posted the way some have, I'd say of course we are gonna get blown out because we already lost the game in between the ears.

I have no doubt that WVU is a good team and a talented team and all, and I know that though I did pick us to lose this game, this isn't the Man of La Mancha vs. the windmill or Shiloh vs. Richland we are talking about here.

[Purple Haize]

Man, Im glad none of the players post on here (well the current ones), because if they posted the way some have, I'd say of course we are gonna get blown out because we already lost the game in between the ears.

I have no doubt that WVU is a good team and a talented team and all, and I know that though I did pick us to lose this game, this isn't the Man of La Mancha vs. the windmill or Shiloh vs. Richland we are talking about here.

What are you coaching?
Plus you are confusing 'winning' with 'working hard'. I fully expect us to lose this game. I fully expect LU to play to the best of their abilities. If you can't understand the difference I don't know what to tell you.
Again, you always want to measure yourself against the best by doing your best against them. It doesn't mean or matter if you win. It's a matter of pride and a measuing stick.

[BJWilliams]

I am not coaching anything at the moment (Not for lack of inquiry of course)

That said, you are not who I have issue with PH. its more with the people who are just assuming that because WVU is apparently some awesome juggernaut in comparison to us, that we are going to basically bend over and get (censored) on Saturday. I agree with you. This will be a good opportunity for us to show out on a big stage, and these guys are gonna give no quarter (much like I expect WVU to). That said, I'm not expecting this game to be one of those ugly scores like was seen in more than a few FBS/FCS games last weekend (and in years past).

[forbidden]

The 3-3-5 is a perfect defense against the spread and sweeps because it utilizes quick athletic defensive players. Liberty needs to stay in between the tackles. And rely on wvu linebackers making the wrong judgment on gaps. I wouldn't play in the sweep game because the wvu spur and safeties are scary. Just watch the kj dillion and Karl Joseph highlight hype videos.

That defense is perfect against a base spread of 2x2 but as soon as you bring 3 over to trips you have to now bring one of your spurs over to cover which possibly leaves you one on one. I heard your coach say that your going to lock up your tall WR vs our WR so that should be a good match up. The same way you are saying your guys have speed I think we have some guys over here that can run as well. If your guy doesn't win that match up your in trouble because then you will have to double with someone else presumably #8

mismatch #2 is your not putting a true DB on the slots your putting Hybrid Safety types and those could pose match up problems too if we get in space. Heck you can create a mismatch just off the motioning of the back to one side or another which then either you have to bring your 1 high Safety #8 to cover or either one of your box LB's. Your D line if im correct didn't do a lot so now going against a traditional offense we will see if you can create the pressure. And since your only using 3 down lineman you will be taking another out the box to create the 4 man pressure, then if you really want to blitz your going to send another backer so IF our QB can account for the extra guy coming I pose that we could have some success against your vaunted 3-3-5. But first and foremost the run game between the tackles will have to be established, which in turn slows down all that extra pressure your going to try and send possibly off the edges

[bluejacket]

here is a pretty good read

http://collegefootballnews.com/2015/wes ... on-preview

And the prediction was 45-10....

[thepostman]

Ugh BJ. People can think we are going to get blown out and still think we are going to compete as hard as we can. The 2 are not connected. Ease up buddy it's too early in the season for your crazy crap.

[R i]

I fully expect us to lose this game. I fully expect LU to play to the best of their abilities. .

Who is "US" in this quote ?

[Purple Haize]

That's for you to decide. I am a man of mystery

[LUDad]

I think the objective in a game like this is to be competitive into the 4th quarter and then let the chips fall as they may. How do we do that?

Eliminate turn overs. Be competitive on special teams, minimize penalties.

1. Liberty led # 23 UNC up until the 6 minute mark of 3rd qty. UNC then capitalized on 5 turnovers the rest of the way. 6 total turnovers in the game. What could have been without those turnovers?

2. Liberty was still within striking distance of NC State until 4 minutes to go in 4th qty despite 5 turnovers. Two additional turnovers in the final 4 minutes were fatal. 7 total turnovers in game.

3. Liberty loses to Wake Forest 20-17. Two turnovers.

4. Liberty beats App. State. Two turnovers.

Liberty has a history of hanging with the big boys. I believe that if we keep turnovers below 2, minimize depth issues by being competitive on special teams and minimize penalties, we will be competitive.

Edit: forgot the score
IF the above happens...
LU 30 WVU 27 Passing yardage: 178. (could not find the Kool Aid icon to add).

[Yacht Rock]

LU Wins 35 - 28

265 Passing Yards.

I'm crazy.

[GretnaEERFan]

The 3-3-5 is a perfect defense against the spread and sweeps because it utilizes quick athletic defensive players. Liberty needs to stay in between the tackles. And rely on wvu linebackers making the wrong judgment on gaps. I wouldn't play in the sweep game because the wvu spur and safeties are scary. Just watch the kj dillion and Karl Joseph highlight hype videos.

That defense is perfect against a base spread of 2x2 but as soon as you bring 3 over to trips you have to now bring one of your spurs over to cover which possibly leaves you one on one. I heard your coach say that your going to lock up your tall WR vs our WR so that should be a good match up. The same way you are saying your guys have speed I think we have some guys over here that can run as well. If your guy doesn't win that match up your in trouble because then you will have to double with someone else presumably #8

mismatch #2 is your not putting a true DB on the slots your putting Hybrid Safety types and those could pose match up problems too if we get in space. Heck you can create a mismatch just off the motioning of the back to one side or another which then either you have to bring your 1 high Safety #8 to cover or either one of your box LB's. Your D line if im correct didn't do a lot so now going against a traditional offense we will see if you can create the pressure. And since your only using 3 down lineman you will be taking another out the box to create the 4 man pressure, then if you really want to blitz your going to send another backer so IF our QB can account for the extra guy coming I pose that we could have some success against your vaunted 3-3-5. But first and foremost the run game between the tackles will have to be established, which in turn slows down all that extra pressure your going to try and send possibly off the edges

Hi forbidden ... new poster and Mountaineer fan. Interesting thoughts. We often see trips used against us in Big 12 play and Alabama tried it against us last year to little effect. Baylor used a quad formation against us and had no completions. Your best bet is to have a balanced attack. If you get one dimensional it will not be pretty. The Achilles Heel against the 3-3-5 is a TE dump pass. We have been burned by that play more than I can count. Here is to a great game with no injuries, Safe travel to all.

Blessings

[Purple Haize]

LU Wins 35 - 28

265 Passing Yards.

I'm crazy.

You win that bet, you won't need to worry about paying for the kids college tuition !!

[phoenix]

45-13, one LU touchdown in garbage time, two LONG Lunsford FGs.

Both of the FGs make the SportsCenter highlights.

[LUDad]

Interesting insights from GS/WV game...

http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... a-football

[Yacht Rock]

LU Wins 35 - 28

265 Passing Yards.

I'm crazy.

You win that bet, you won't need to worry about paying for the kids college tuition !!

I was going to make that joke as well but I thought, "too soon." LOL

[Purple Haize]

LU Wins 35 - 28

265 Passing Yards.

I'm crazy.

You win that bet, you won't need to worry about paying for the kids college tuition !!

I was going to make that joke as well but I thought, "too soon." I chortle audibly.

Ha. Never too soon!