[olldflame]

I was prepared to say something semi-gracious about CCU´s move until both their AD and President could not resist the temptation to use the platform they had to announce their acceptance of the invitation to the SBC to take thinly veiled passive-agressive shots at Liberty. I´m glad I held off. They showed all the class of a string of tacky souvenir shops on King´s Hwy. The only thing more disingenuous is Coastal fans saying we are being crybabies to suggest those comments were directed at us when they flat out know they were.

[SuperJon]

I believe the man. If that's gullible then by all means, I'm gullible.

I also believe Jerry when he said we don't currently have plans to sue to move up.

If the choices are gullible or cynical, I'd rather be gullible.

[flamehunter]

I believe the man. If that's gullible then by all means, I'm gullible.

I also believe Jerry when he said we don't currently have plans to sue to move up.

If the choices are gullible or cynical, I'd rather be gullible.

Then try being more gullible with Liberty rather than always being cynical.

[SuperJon]

That's a great line and there's probably a good amount of truth in it. I don't mean to be cynical about Liberty. It's sort of like how sausage is made. You'd rather be uninformed on the process and just enjoy the food instead of knowing what all goes into it. Once you know what goes into it, it often changes how you look at it. That's how many things our school does is to me.

[jlread]

I absolutely believe him. He's a CEO. He doesn't think like the rest of us. He understands the importance of checks and balances and proper procedures.

Now, once he leaves and either moves on to another school and/or retires, I have no doubt he'll start giving back to Coastal and likely in a large way.

I thought I read somewhere a while back that he doesn't except a paycheck but instead works for CCU for FREE!?!?! I sorta consider that giving away money to the school.

[SuperJon]

I hadn't heard that one. I doubt it though. By all accounts, the dude wants to be a normal football coach.

[jlread]

Your right. I looked back at the article. He worked 2 years for free under Bo pelini just for experience. He makes $185k a year now. Haha so sorta works for free since he's worth Millions

[adam42381]

Who cares about Joe and all his money. The amount of money 1 person, even the wealthiest of persons, would be willing to funnel into a school is inconsequential to this whole ordeal. That's not even taking into account this isn't his alma mater and he's not a CCU lifer.

T. Boone Pickens and Phil Knight come to mind.

[olldflame]

I'm not sure how many F500 CEOs you have been around, but that's not how you get to be CEO ... especially in the financial sector.

Chuck Burton gets a ton of grief but his point about the financial challenges that Coastal is now facing have some merit. In a time when budget money from the state is not going to start suddenly flowing, they have to come up with new revenue streams. To assume the guy who would most benefit from this move is not willing to chip in for this once in a lifetime opportunity seems suspect. If he is not helping them out, they have even bigger challenges ahead of them.

I got nowhere searching for what Burton has to say about Coastal´s finances. Do you have a link?

The more I think about it, for Moglia to contribute in a substantial way to CCU while an employee there would open a veritible Pandoras box of ethical issues. Imagine if Phil Knight were the Football coach at Oregon.

[olldflame]

I´m not so sure the move to the SBC will be a career boost to Joe, and there is actually a substacial chance it could set him back. Doing what he is doing now he looks like a genius (not to say he isn´t) compiling a gaudy W-L record against a cupcake schedule and getting annual exposure in the FCS tourney. The wins will be harder to come by now, and we are probably talking a few years before a bowl invite.

[SuperJon]

The more I think about it, for Moglia to contribute in a substantial way to CCU while an employee there would open a veritible Pandoras box of ethical issues. Imagine if Phil Knight were the Football coach at Oregon.

This is exactly what I'm saying. It causes more issues than it's worth.

[olldflame]

While I obviously know nothing about his plans, I don´t think CCU should be planning on big bucks frome Joe after he moves on either. As has been stated by others, he is neither an alum or a ¨lifer¨at CCU. Yes, they gave him an opportunity to be a D1 head coach, but let´s face it, to this point the school has benifited more from that hire than he has.

[Hold My Own]

The more I think about it, for Moglia to contribute in a substantial way to CCU while an employee there would open a veritible Pandoras box of ethical issues. Imagine if Phil Knight were the Football coach at Oregon.

This is exactly what I'm saying. It causes more issues than it's worth.

Foxcatcher

[flamehunter]

That's a great line and there's probably a good amount of truth in it. I don't mean to be cynical about Liberty. It's sort of like how sausage is made. You'd rather be uninformed on the process and just enjoy the food instead of knowing what all goes into it. Once you know what goes into it, it often changes how you look at it. That's how many things our school does is to me.

Fair enough. I had relatives who worked for the OTGH back in the day and they all became more cynical about the ministry. Also, that's why I prefer to make my own sausage,

[Yacht Rock]

C'mon guys, let's not make this a sausage party.

Save it for the Liberty Tower thread.

[SuperJon]

Well played. That almost made me laugh out loud in the middle of a meeting.

[LUnpretty11]

C'mon guys, let's not make this a sausage party.

Save it for the Liberty Tower thread.

Post of the year nominee.

[alabama24]

YR has had two in the past week. lol

[soccer7]

I absolutely believe him. He's a CEO. He doesn't think like the rest of us. He understands the importance of checks and balances and proper procedures.

Now, once he leaves and either moves on to another school and/or retires, I have no doubt he'll start giving back to Coastal and likely in a large way.

I thought I read somewhere a while back that he doesn't except a paycheck but instead works for CCU for FREE!?!?! I sorta consider that giving away money to the school.

Glad I read through the post. I was going to post the same thing. Some one else stated that he made $187,000? I thought when he was hired his contract is for a $1 a year so he could go out and get the Assistant Coaches he wanted. He is working for nothing either way and giving them money by doing so. I am sure there are other ways he funnels money into the school without it coming from is personal account. You know is doing everything in his power to be successful as this new venture.

The sting of this move is much greater because it was Coastal that got in. Any other school outside of the Big South may not have hurt as bad. The comments are definitely directed at Liberty and you have to be foolish not to believe it.

[Purple Haize]

C'mon guys, let's not make this a sausage party.

Save it for the Liberty Tower thread.

Scary I mentally said the same thing before scrolling down!

[flamehunter]

C'mon guys, let's not make this a sausage party.

Save it for the Liberty Tower thread.

Post of the year nominee.

YR has had two in the past week. I chortle audibly.

This one falls into the Junior High Division.

[ATrain]

I absolutely believe him. He's a CEO. He doesn't think like the rest of us. He understands the importance of checks and balances and proper procedures.

Now, once he leaves and either moves on to another school and/or retires, I have no doubt he'll start giving back to Coastal and likely in a large way.

I thought I read somewhere a while back that he doesn't except a paycheck but instead works for CCU for FREE!?!?! I sorta consider that giving away money to the school.

Glad I read through the post. I was going to post the same thing. Some one else stated that he made $187,000? I thought when he was hired his contract is for a $1 a year so he could go out and get the Assistant Coaches he wanted. He is working for nothing either way and giving them money by doing so. I am sure there are other ways he funnels money into the school without it coming from is personal account. You know is doing everything in his power to be successful as this new venture.

The sting of this move is much greater because it was Coastal that got in. Any other school outside of the Big South may not have hurt as bad. The comments are definitely directed at Liberty and you have to be foolish not to believe it.

Like I said, he could have a trust or something that is "managed," for him...

[flameshaw]

I´m not so sure the move to the SBC will be a career boost to Joe, and there is actually a substacial chance it could set him back. Doing what he is doing now he looks like a genius (not to say he isn´t) compiling a gaudy W-L record against a cupcake schedule and getting annual exposure in the FCS tourney. The wins will be harder to come by now, and we are probably talking a few years before a bowl invite.

I agree. I would like for us to be in FBS, even the SBC, but I believe this is a decision that will not end up being a good one for Coastal.

[flameshaw]

Like I said, he could have a trust or something that is "managed," for him...

Regardless of him giving, or not giving his personal money, he is fully capable of raising a lot of money from his business friends and associates. Nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't be surprised if Coach Sam didn't use his contacts to get us some favors/perks/donations as well.
Good for CCU that he has his friends, etc. I am still not convinced that there wouldn't be an easy way to funnel some of his personal fortune into the program if he wanted to. But in the overall scheme of things, it is not a huge deal either way.

[ballcoach15]

I still predict the state of SC will eventually have to bail CCU out.