[olldflame]

If Meyer's the guy, his age is no problem at all. We can't expect a coach to be here more than 5 years at this point. A young guy who turned the program around would bail for a better job in five years anyways.

Pretty good point assuming that we would still be in the BSC (or the SBC for that matter) 5 years from now. Put us in C-USA and it could be a different story. LU in a significantly better basketball conference could be a "destination" job for the right young coach.

[PAFlame]

If we hire Jeff Meyer and he ends up getting canned or leaves in 3-4 years who will we hire next? DALE LAYER?!

[SuperJon]

If Meyer's the guy, his age is no problem at all. We can't expect a coach to be here more than 5 years at this point. A young guy who turned the program around would bail for a better job in five years anyways.

Pretty good point assuming that we would still be in the BSC (or the SBC for that matter) 5 years from now. Put us in C-USA and it could be a different story. LU in a significantly better basketball conference could be a "destination" job for the right young coach.

It's not yet though and won't be within the next month so that doesn't really matter.

[olldflame]

If we hire Jeff Meyer and he ends up getting canned or leaves in 3-4 years who will we hire next? DALE LAYER?!

3-4 years from now Jeff will be a senior citizen. I'm quite sure in applying for the HC job at Liberty he is looking at it as coming full circle to the only HC job he has held. If he is successful he won't be going anywhere. If you are somehow comparing Dale Layer's tenure at LU to Meyer's and insinuating hiring JM is comparable to bringing DL back at some future time, you need to check your facts. Jeff went 259-206 at Liberty while going through the difficult process of transitioning up a level 3 times from NCCAA to NAIA to D2 to D1. He was 58-34 in the BSC. On leaving Liberty he went on to be instrumental in helping build mid-major powerhouses at Winthrop and Butler, followed by a series of high-major assistant coaching jobs. Layer went 82-113 (about 20 of the wins against lower level schools) and 45-59 in the BSC. I've heard people say that hiring Mel Hankinson started the demise of LU basketball. No. It began a year earlier when some arrogant people who didn't realize what they had forced Jeff Meyer out thinking they could do better, even with the limited resources the school had at the time. The last minute power play was made possible when his top assistant agreed to be interim coach. Worst move in LU athletics history.

Jeff Meyer

[comet]

I've heard people say that hiring Mel Hankinson started the demise of LU basketball. No. It began a year earlier when some arrogant people who didn't realize what they had forced Jeff Meyer out thinking they could do better, even with the limited resources the school had at the time. The last minute power play was made possible when his top assistant agreed to be interim coach. Worst move in LU athletics history.

Olldflame is right. LU basketball jumped the shark as soon as that power play was made. Sadly, the individual seen as responsible was given two stints as LU head coach. It's only fair that Meyer gets his second stint as head coach.

[jack_sparrow81]

Well, we have to wait another weekend for Lutz, which is not a bad thing. However, the recent success of NC State may attract others.

[Purple Haize]

If we hire Jeff Meyer and he ends up getting canned or leaves in 3-4 years who will we hire next? DALE LAYER?!

3-4 years from now Jeff will be a senior citizen. I'm quite sure in applying for the HC job at Liberty he is looking at it as coming full circle to the only HC job he has held. If he is successful he won't be going anywhere. If you are somehow comparing Dale Layer's tenure at LU to Meyer's and insinuating hiring JM is comparable to bringing DL back at some future time, you need to check your facts. Jeff went 259-206 at Liberty while going through the difficult process of transitioning up a level 3 times from NCCAA to NAIA to D2 to D1. He was 58-34 in the BSC. On leaving Liberty he went on to be instrumental in helping build mid-major powerhouses at Winthrop and Butler, followed by a series of high-major assistant coaching jobs. Layer went 82-113 (about 20 of the wins against lower level schools) and 45-59 in the BSC. I've heard people say that hiring Mel Hankinson started the demise of LU basketball. No. It began a year earlier when some arrogant people who didn't realize what they had forced Jeff Meyer out thinking they could do better, even with the limited resources the school had at the time. The last minute power play was made possible when his top assistant agreed to be interim coach. Worst move in LU athletics history.

Jeff Meyer

Great post but I'm not sure you needed to nvoke The Rule on it. Unless you're u were just emphasizing a point

[alabama24]

Great post but I'm not sure you needed to nvoke The Rule on it. Unless you're u were just emphasizing a point

Wasn't he invoking the rule based on the end of the quote from PAFlame? Different HC, same rule?

EDIT: I guess PAFlame also used Jeff Meyer.

[Neo]

Lutz has a couple days off.

And a couple of good candidates are no longer in the mix.

[olldflame]

I made a reference to the former coach in question, although I did not mention his name. I was just being sure.

[olldflame]

Lutz has a couple days off.

And a couple of good candidates are no longer in the mix.

Care to elaborate on the second part?

[Neo]

Lutz has a couple days off.

And a couple of good candidates are no longer in the mix.

Care to elaborate on the second part?

One of them said no thanks. The other's brand of Christianity didn't fit with ours.

[olldflame]

Thanks neo.

For next year's Flame Fans awards I'll be sure to nominate you in the Sly Fox "I know but I'm not telling" category.

[Rooster Cogburn]

There is a interesting petition started by some LU students to hire Anthony Grant.....They have 4 Supporters. https://www.change.org/p/liberty-univer ... responsive

[Neo]

Did they not think Barber would reach out to Grant?

[olldflame]

There is a interesting petition started by some LU students to hire Anthony Grant.....They have 4 Supporters. https://www.change.org/p/liberty-univer ... responsive

They brought up something in the petition that could be overlooked if you just look at his work history. Perhaps the most impressive thing on his resume is being selected for the job he never got to take as coach of the 2 time defending champion Gators because Donovan changed his mind. It indicates how highly the people at Florida thought of the work he did in his long tenure as an assistant there to offer him that job with only a couple of years experience as a HC at VCU.

[olldflame]

Did they not think Barber would reach out to Grant?

They probably did. The petition is asking him to HIRE Grant.

[Bigsouthking]

let me take a guess after 2 weeks of HC vacancy:

Grant said no thanks
Prohm just laughed and said get real
Meyer & Radebaugh are begging
RD is still trying
Lutz keeps winning

I wonder if Lorenzo Romar would leave for Liberty??? (thinking out loud) hes friends with RMK

[SuperJon]

Leave it to Liberty kids to start a petition.

[olldflame]

let me take a guess after 2 weeks of HC vacancy:

Grant said no thanks
Prohm just laughed and said get real
Meyer & Radebaugh are begging
RD is still trying
Lutz keeps winning

I wonder if Lorenzo Romar would leave for Liberty??? (thinking out loud) hes friends with RMK

Probably right on Grant.
Prohm has a good job and a shot at Alabama (his alma mater), but I don't think coaches are laughing at this job. Between the salary, budget, facilities and relatively easy path to the dance every year, it's actually a pretty sweet gig.
Radebaugh can beg all he wants. Looks like Meyer really wants the job, but he may have waited too long.
Do you actually think RD applied?
We could lose Lutz to a better offer now, especially if the Pack keeps winning.
Romar? PAC-12 to BSC is a bit too big of a step down. It does make me think of a guy we talked about in 07, who was Romar's assistant at the time, but Cameron Dollar is only 78-103 in 6 years as HC at Seattle.

Jeff Meyer

[jmmiii]

Lutz has a couple days off.

And a couple of good candidates are no longer in the mix.

Care to elaborate on the second part?

One of them said no thanks. The other's brand of Christianity didn't fit with ours.

Why withhold names if you know why they didn't work out? Which coaches are no longer in consideration?

[Rooster Cogburn]

Leave it to Liberty kids to start a petition.

That's what I said too. Haha

[olldflame]

By giving us information we don't care about, neo has created a reason not to tell us what we do care about. Either that or he is making the whole thing up.

[olldflame]

Leave it to Liberty kids to start a petition.

That's what I said too. Haha

Where's the petition for Randy????

Jeff Meyer

[comet]

Leave it to Liberty kids to start a petition.

RD was apparently behind the petition years ago. Perhaps Grant is behind this new petition.