- March 6th, 2015, 6:54 pm
#478432
#9 takes down #1. Not know score. just received text on the upset.
Moderators: jcmanson, Sly Fox, BuryYourDuke
ballcoach15 wrote:I love upsets as long as LU isn't on losing end.They won't be.
BJWilliams wrote:Two things you have to realize ballcoach:1 thing you need to realize.........
1) 4 teams in play for 16 seeds will go to Dayton
2) It is very likely at least 1 will be a conference champion.
ballcoach15 wrote:A conference champion should NEVER go to Dayton. A conference champion earned their NCAA bid. The At-Large teams that get in, were selected by selection committee. They DID NOT earn their bid. Thus 4 at-large teams should be in Dayton.By your reasoning coach, if UK continues undefeated til the SEC tournament final and then gets upset, they will not have EARNED a bid to the NCAAs because they would not get the automatic bid from the SEC, which goes to their tournament champion. Every year almost as many bids go to teams that did not get their conferences automatic bid as to those who did. About as often as not the ultimate national champion comes from this group and by just about any reasonable method of evaluation, the worst 8 or 10 teams (at least) in the tournament every year are auto-bid winners from weak conferences like the MEAC, SWAC, and yes, the BSC. You have been harping on this for a couple of years, and it's pretty clear you are not going to allow yourself to be confused by the facts, but you are all alone on an island on this one.
ballcoach15 wrote:NCAA rules give conference champions automatic bid. That's the number one rule for getting into tournament.I understand the thought process. But the last 4 teams in already have a 'Play In' game. Remember VCU? That should take care of your need for that. IF you go by conference champions, do you mean regular season or tournament. When we went I am not sure we had a body of work that said we were better than a 17 seed!
The 4 teams that go to Dayton should be the last 4 at large teams to get in.
The winner of BSC tournament has as much right to be in tournament as SEC or ACC champion.
BJWilliams wrote:You have zero idea how the selection process works don't you ballcoach?There's still 1 thing you need to know....
thepostman wrote:I have never liked the opening round but nobody asked me.
I do love how BJ somehow believes he is all knowing when it comes to the selection commitee. I also enjoy reading the posts in which he talks down to people and then turns around and gets his panties in a wad if you give him just a bit of a hard time. It's great. Or something.
SuperJon wrote:it's also killing this boardthepostman wrote:Or something.
BJWilliams wrote:Do tell o wise all knowing one...I said you need to know it. Not be told it
ballcoach15 wrote:NCAA rules give conference champions automatic bid. That's the number one rule for getting into tournament.NCAA rules also say that after the automatic bids from conference championships have been determined the selection committee completes the field by choosing at large teams and then seeds the entire field. It's only you that thinks one rule is somehow more valid than another. Just being a conference champion doesn't mean you are good, especially when it is determined by a post season tournament which can be won by a team with 20 losses.
The 4 teams that go to Dayton should be the last 4 at large teams to get in.
The winner of BSC tournament has as much right to be in tournament as SEC or ACC champion.