[jlread]

Bear Jr is super super super old news. That was the big argument early on in this Bama cock/chicken fight. From the interview I heard it had almost nothing to do with Bear Jr. He made it sound like it was 80-90% the president(maybe Bear jr is his puppet master?) and the board. He also mentioned that part of the sourness amongst the UAB pro keep football people lyes within the school stating that they have no intentions of cutting the budget but plan to shift the funds into the other sports.

[flamehunter]

Thanks for the quick history lesson FFG. I figured it had something to do with Bear Bryant, but a google of Little Bear only gave me a kids cartoon.

[ATrain]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 02034.html

Not exactly sure how the regent's threat to pull funding from UH athletics if they don't get an invite threatens the Big 12...

[VAGolf]

Dumbest idea I've ever heard.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story ... y-freshmen

[adam42381]

I think it's a really good idea.

[VAGolf]

It's one giant pile of BS. Kid needs to "adjust to college life." Please. Those same colleges will admit any 13 year old genius if they have the chance. We can send 18 year old's to war but somehow they aren't ready for college basketball.

[BJWilliams]

Did someone get their talking points from Colin Cowherd, because he basically said the same thing on his show (I'm not disagreeing with your point, just stating its not 100% original)

[adam42381]

They're looking to graduate more kids. I don't see how that's a bad thing. These are student-athletes, right?

[CinciFlame]

Some are calling this the UK rule. It's a way to try and eliminate one and done kids. Asinine if you ask me.

[VAGolf]

They're looking to graduate more kids. I don't see how that's a bad thing. These are student-athletes, right?

Sure. But shouldn't the purpose of college be to prepare their students to have the best future imaginable? Not to ensure that kids stay in your school for four years?

Did someone get their talking points from Colin Cowherd, because he basically said the same thing on his show (I'm not disagreeing with your point, just stating its not 100% original)

Yeah, I was also on his show (fast forward to hour 3). It's a great point and I'm fairly certain he heard it somewhere else.

[Sly Fox]

Some of us are old enough to remember when this rule existed in the past.

If this were to pass, it would be a real shot to college basketball as the elite players would likely head overseas or the NBA would start drafting kids and then send them over to Europe or the D-League to develop.

[soccer7]

If this is strictly a P5 move would'nt most of the mid majors benifit from this? The one and dones may opt to go to programs like VCU, Marquette, Georgetown etc. for a year then get drafted.

[rmiller1959]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... 02034.html

Not exactly sure how the regent's threat to pull funding from UH athletics if they don't get an invite threatens the Big 12...

The president of the UH Board of Regents is trying to leverage Houston's political clout in the Texas Legislature to put pressure on the Texas schools already in the Big 12. It's widely believed that the University of Texas is standing in the way of other programs from the state of Texas that wish to join the Big 12.

There is a precedent for this kind of action in the Texas Legislature. Back in 2010, when there was talk of Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado moving to the PAC-10 (now the PAC-12), Baylor used its legislative clout to demand that they be included in any realignment with the five Big 12 schools.

I'm a Texas Tech grad back from when there was still a Southwest Conference, and those schools had no compulsion about using political influence and intimidation to get their way.

That's how Baylor, when the Southwest Conference broke up, ended up in the Big 12. A Baylor alumnus on the finance committee of the legislature formed an alliance with senior legislators from Lubbock, and they threatened Texas and Texas A&M, both of whom were talking about leaving the Southwest Conference, with loss of access to the Permanent University Fund unless they took Baylor and Texas Tech with them, leaving Rice, SMU, TCU and Houston to fend for themselves. Baylor was the only private school admitted into the Big 12 until 2012, when TCU joined to replace Texas A&M when they bolted to the SEC.

[Sly Fox]

Ann Richards & Bob Bullock saved the Baylor athletic department. The Bears had no business being in the Big XII over UH. It was all about the timing. And UH simply doesn't have the clout in Austin to force anything these days. Tech played the system well to keep UH out back in '95.

[rmiller1959]

Ann Richards swore she was neutral in that discussion, but as a Baylor alum and the governor, no one believed her!

[Sly Fox]

In my experience around her, the only position where she ever seemed neutral was in her religion. I covered the statehouse a bit during that session when all the fireworks were happening. In Texas, the Lt. Governor has more power than the Governor and Bullock was the key. He burned a great deal of political capital to make it happen.

Back to the UH situation, I don't see this being the route for the Coogs to make it back into the big time. But they are unquestionably a deserving P5 school based on facilities, funding, location and history. But the haves in the state will fight tooth and nail to make sure the have nots remain so.

[BJWilliams]

Ann Richards swore she was neutral in that discussion, but as a Baylor alum and the governor, no one believed her!

Based on the info above that seems only natural. She could have turned in her cell phone and computer, hopped on a plane, went to Siberia, spent that whole week or however long it was in a small cabin with zero contact to the outside world and people would still think she influenced the decision in Baylor's favor using her Jedi mind powers.

[SuperJon]

Ann Richards swore she was neutral in that discussion, but as a Baylor alum and the governor, no one believed her!

Based on the info above that seems only natural. She could have turned in her cell phone and computer, hopped on a plane, went to Siberia, spent that whole week or however long it was in a small cabin with zero contact to the outside world and people would still think she influenced the decision in Baylor's favor using her Jedi mind powers.

Do you even know anything about the situation or are you just spouting gigantic run-on sentences for the heck of it?

[BJWilliams]

No I don't know anything about the situation Jon...I'm not a moron. I figured I'd make my point using an extreme example.

[ATrain]

In Virginia, Mark Warner managed to pressure UVA to get VT into the ACC over Syracuse. There's more than one reason why he was a popular governor. BJ, maybe people are saying she wasn't neutral is because she really wasn't???? Just a thought there.

[Purple Haize]

Ann Richards swore she was neutral in that discussion, but as a Baylor alum and the governor, no one believed her!

Based on the info above that seems only natural. She could have turned in her cell phone and computer, hopped on a plane, went to Siberia, spent that whole week or however long it was in a small cabin with zero contact to the outside world and people would still think she influenced the decision in Baylor's favor using her Jedi mind powers.

Do you even know anything about the situation or are you just spouting gigantic run-on sentences for the heck of it?

You forget his self proclaimed exemption to Stream of Consciousness postf. C'mon Man

[BJWilliams]

I dont disagree with you Atrain...she probably wasn't neutral in that situation. what I am saying is she could have taken the most extreme measures possible to BE neutral in that situation, and yet, somehow people could have still expected she had a hand in it.

[BJWilliams]

You forget his self proclaimed exemption to Stream of Consciousness postf. C'mon Man

2 things:
1) that post actually wasn't stream of consciousness, and I actually was trying to make sure the right punctuation was used along with appropriate grammar and syntax. I mean if you're trying to be a bully to me on here, I get it and all...its just sad.
2) Postf? seriously?

[ballcoach15]

Syracuse did not belong in ACC in 2004, nor do they belong now, even though they are in. No northern schools should be in ACC, i.e. Syracuse, Pittsburg and Boston College. Neither does Louisville.

East Carolina and Liberty would have been better fits for ACC than those schools.

[VAGolf]

This thread is 193 pages of BJ spouting random crap, PH correcting him on it, BJ trying to redeem his crap by correcting the punctuation or typo of another user and then some random user making a claim that we are better fit in the ACC/SEC/B1G/Pac12/Big12/American than at least one of their current conference members.