[Rooster Cogburn]

Andoh has 18 and the lead is down to 13

[Rooster Cogburn]

GO Andoh! Has 20. Lead at 11.

[flamehunter]

We broke 60! yay!

[Rooster Cogburn]

3:41 left . lead down to 9. 22 for Andoh!

[flamehunter]

85-71. Offensive outburst not enough.

[Cider Jim]

Longwood makes 16 three point shots!

[lynchburgwildcats]

Longwood makes 16 three point shots!

They are streaky, but when one of them is on fire from three it seems like all of them are.

[flameshaw]

Another EMBARRASSING outing.

[Cider Jim]

If my math is right, Longwood shot 55% behind the 3-point arc.

[JakeP50]

71 points should be enough for a D1 team to win, it should be more than enough. Can we just end the misery and fire DL now? Please JB, please. When talk about firing coaches comes up, usually I would be on the same side as Rooster, I even gave Doug Collins the benefit of the doubt up until the very end. But this team, dead last in the RPI, less entertaining to watch than a high school alumni game, and led by a coach who ignores former players and won't engage with students at all. A change has to be made, if possible this weekend. JB doesn't have to Lane Kiffin him but before the next game either way.

[lynchburgwildcats]

Liberty now 350 out of 351 in adjusted offensive efficiency. The only two winless teams in the country have a better offense.

[Purple Haize]

Wow. I thought the game started at 7. Apparently so did the players

[Equinox]

Dale must gooooooo……….Dale must goooooo…..Dale must goooooo

[jcmanson]

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[flameshaw]

After reading this whole thread, I have a couple of comments:
1. Scar I was scared to death the first time I met you. LOL j/k
2. Recruiting is a major issue. We had better players 20 years ago.
3. It is my opinion that recruiting to LU is not nearly as hard as some people make it out to be. MBB has an advantage over baseball and football because you only have to recruit 3-5 good D1 players to have a team good enough to with the BSC tourney every year.
4. I am open to changing my mind on this one, but I don't buy the black/white thing. Back in the early 70's at LU, we treated all players the same, regardless of background, color, etc. Was very good personal friends with Peter Aluma, Ed Gomes, etc. and remain so today. (I even count Scar as a friend). Certainly race relations are better now than they were 20-25 years ago.
5. All this crap about treating football players or maybe other sports differently from each other is way overblown. I have played sports all my life, played football and baseball at LU, was part of the basketball team in an administrative role as well. My whole career, I have heard so many rumors of things going on that were covered up, overlooked, etc. that were not true at all, zero basis of fact. I am not naive enough to think that some players are treated differently, that athletes don't get some breaks that regular students wouldn't get, there are Asa Chapman's of the world. I am just saying that the perceived preferential treatment given to athletes is greatly exaggerated by the average fan, student. IMVVVVHO
6. Bottom line we need a leadership change immediately after the last game of the season. A good coach can make us competitive in the BSC in 2-3 years.

[ATrain]

We suck, and not in the good way...

[thepostman]

Tthis goes well beyond liberty being a tough place to recruit basketball players. I am sad for this program and especially for guys like scar.

[Purple Haize]

We suck, and not in the good way...

[JK37]

I disagree vehemently that good players cannot be recruited to LU.

I'm not sure firing DL mid-season ends any misery.

I don't get the insistence on current coach paying dues to former players and coaches. I guess I can see why it's a nice thing and possibly yields some benefit; but it isn't necessary, nor do I think it should be a basis upon which a job decision is made. Sounds like former players wishing for current glory and grousing, if you ask me.

[SuperJon]

I disagree vehemently that good players cannot be recruited to LU.

Has anyone suggested they can't be?

[RVAparks]

Enjoyed the win tonight but I'm not here to rub it in or anything. I've been watching this Dale Layer debate, if you want to call it that, for a while now and just wanted to chime in because the product I saw on the floor was border line sad today.

First of all, it's not just Dale Layer the whole staff is terrible. One of your assistants applied for the Longwood job this summer (should be hard to figure out), didn't get it, and looked like he was on a brown nosing job interview tonight.

Recruiting is the key and I don't think Liberty is a hard place to recruit. I think it's interesting that the class two years ago is never brought up. Layer rolled the dice with a ton of JUCO transfers and it was really a failed experiment when it came to W/L. There was the tournament championship but no one ever seems to point to that class. When you look at Liberty there is really no homegrown talent at all b/c that class was so JUCO heavy. Now you're left with a declining coaching situation but a class that needs 3 to 4 years to pan out. I thought your class 2 years ago was a mistake and I think that is showing now. I also think the lack of local recruits, not necessarily Virginia, is amazing. It seems like Liberty has no rep locally whatsoever.

Also, I really don't think Jason Allison is the answer. He seems to be the one that got away for everyone but you need someone more transcendant than that if you're really looking to move to the top of the Big South and eventually compete in a FBS conference. You don't need a retread rather a Mike Rhoades type guy.

Just my two cents, looking to talk some basketball. It's more fun when Liberty is competitive.

[Purple Haize]

A Penguin in leopard print boxers can make us more competitive than we are right now

[PAFlame]

I now finally understand chapter 42 of Moby Dick (Whiteness of the Whale). Captain Layer leads the crew of fools in search of well... nothing.

[TIMSCAR20]

I disagree vehemently that good players cannot be recruited to LU.

I'm not sure firing DL mid-season ends any misery.

I don't get the insistence on current coach paying dues to former players and coaches. I guess I can see why it's a nice thing and possibly yields some benefit; but it isn't necessary, nor do I think it should be a basis upon which a job decision is made. Sounds like former players wishing for current glory and grousing, if you ask me.

There are not any former players that I am aware of that thinks this coaching staff or any other owes them a thing. But they do feel disconnected. When was the last alumni event? When was the last time there was anything basketball history related from HOF inductions to simple games during the season that alumni and the current team are working in conjunction on? The guys I know that have players have stopped trying to send players to Liberty because when they do they don't get return calls, or the kid is ignored (their words not mine). As far as connecting with the past, there have been multiple positions open on the staff and not one former player has ever come close to getting a job with LU. Personally I think it is good to have a guy on your staff that has been a Liberty hooper because it adds insight and perspective. But it isn't necessarily an indictment in and of itself for not having a guy like that. There are guys like Hildebrand, Steph Leary, Jason Allison, Charles Richardson and Julius Nwoso that have either showed interest in working for Dale or have tried to send players to Liberty. There are a few others that I don't want to mention because they don't necessarily want to be in the conversation but basically everyone I talk to from the past is embarrassed and can't believe what is going on up on the Mountain. I can't either to tell the truth. I would have never thought Dale's teams would be this bad. I happen to think he is a good coach. Very few guys I have ever talked to in this business have ever said anything but glowing and complimentary things about him. He is as respected a coach as it is at this level. That's what makes all of this just SAD for me.

[ballcoach15]

First half told story . longwood leading scorers had 18 and 19 points . LU's had 6,