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flameshaw wrote:On a very positive note Peterson has to be one of the best receivers in FBS and one of the best ever to play at LU.Unless you throw the ball right between the numbers with him wide open. He has problems with those throws
CinciFlame wrote:This was a strange defensive game. 15-20 plays CS lined up with a double TE set and a FB in the backfield. We stayed in our 4 man front. That makes no sense. They got a 4-5 yard push off the ball on almost everyone of those plays. This one goes right down with Coastal and ODU in my book. This game isn't close if CS didn't insist on throwing the ball time after time. Gill didn't have his team ready to play this game. Mostly notably the defense. Liberty football for sure.when they went double tight we shifted to what looked like a 50 front, bottom line is basic assignment football was not completed tonight, in regards to the option or he didn't prepare them well enough, but with all the film time they put in, no way should they have not been prepared.
I've seen several people ask with no answers given. Does anyone know how Josh got hurt?
jinxy wrote:You can't put the first pick on Masha. That was all coumin. The other 2 were bad but he did plenty.
ballcoach15 wrote:For whatever reason, the defense looked lost all night. We gave up 359 yards rushing, but I thought not stopping pass hurt more. We got burnt several times. Defensive line had a bad game.I really don't know what is going on in the secondary as well sometimes, because we don't stop the pass that well and its disgusting to watch (former DB)
BJWilliams wrote:After the disappearing act the last couple games, ,Petey showed why he probably is the top wideout in the Big South today. there are very few DBs that can hang with him one on one on a consistent basis. All three of his touchdowns today were absolutely sickWell, you just stated yourself right there, he is NOT the top WR in the BS from my knowledge its a kid from Coastal I think, can't be a top WR and pull disappearing acts, PERIOD. IMO, its about route recognition, if he lines up single on hashes 8/10 its gotta be a fade just based on spacing but the DB's seem to still play him inside so they just throw the fade ball right to where he is, it really baffles me with some of the DB play from other schools, and OURS.
krh44 wrote:BJ you are right Petersons catches were unreal.TY for mentioning that, that punt that was allowed to roll back inside the 20 killed us, especially since he came out and threw a pick within the next two plays. If your going to be back there then catch the ball or don't be back there. LU'S RETURN game has been AWFUL ALL year, period.
Someone needs to tell out return man what a fair catch is. They only punted twice but both times we got pinned back because we let the ball go.
I thought Masha played well. Inability to run the ball didn't help things either.
I don't know what to say about our D.
flameshaw wrote:Several observations from where I sit:
If Woodrum plays we win, no problem. Yes we couldn't stop their offense, but we would have had 3 less interceptions and scored 14-21 more points than we did.
True, we had very poor field position most of first half, and Josh having more experience would have helped our cause.
The D line is the weakest part of our team. We cannot/did not get pressure on the QB this year unless we blitzed.Toss up, could be secondary too
We are totally unable to stop the option. True, basic option assignment football not being taught, follow other teams success at stopping them if you don't know how to do yourself, bad just bad, imo
We need to overhaul the D and/or D coordinator next year. We will have a great offense, even better than this year.not for getting rid of the guy but definitely have to be better in some calls, but at some point, cant be complacent or try to get by on what you did the year before.
Seems like we were out coached this game, doesn't happen very often. Hate to say this but very very very true, tonight
Officiating was horrible for both teams, did not cost us the game.Maybe, the missed catch by Gabe made us punt, the spike you just cant do, especially when you do near their guy
Not sure Masha is the answer would Woodrum graduates, had trouble seeing over the linemen tonight.
CSU is really not a very good team, QB is not a good passer, pretty good runner.True, he was efficient or our corners made the receivers look better, bad decision making at times tho, I don't think a good runner either, but he could def carry out a play fake
Their game plan was to take away the run and make Masha beat them with his arm.
We have zero chance of beating CCU without Woodrum.
Every time we blitzed, we put pressure on the QB, don't remember a time he completed a pass when we put pressure on him. False, got beat by not covering the back out the backfield sometimes when we blitzed
Worst game tackling I have seen all year.True, just plain awful
The injury that Josh has, is one that could allow him to play at 100% next week. However, he was not putting any weight on his leg tonight at all.
Bend don't break defense has never worked and never will work, regardless of personnel.True
CSU was pretty chippy tonight and we fell for it several times, need more discipline.
Expect a better game next week, but result will probably be the same as tonight, a tough L. (Hope I am wrong about that). False, im drinking the koolaid and say we win, just don't know how
CCU is still NOT a top 10 team, we will be their toughest test this season. They will get beat in the playoffs............bad. True, a team will stop that option force them to pass and they win going away.
Just my .02 from a very frustrated 40 year LU football fan.
SuperJon wrote:If we were "resting for Coastal" then our coaches should be fired an hour ago. That logic is just dumb.On an only partially related topic, for the record would you say Rocco was outcoached on Saturday or did the players have anything to do with that loss?
For the record, I don't think we were doing that. I think we got out coached.
forbidden wrote:I thought we used masha a but too much. It was almost evident when we were going to run him and I think in doing so them featuring h in as the primary runner took away from DJ, imo.You are certainly welcome to your opinion, but not sure what football logic that is based on. One could seldom tell when we were going to use Masha as the primary runner, but we almost telegraphed every time we were going to rush DJ based on the formation. Very poor imagination/ play calling this game, maybe it was based on Masha being inexperienced. That combined with a bend don't break defense (that NEVER works on ANY team) did us in.
Going back to the lateral screen game was not smart in my opinion be cuz he was or could have been more effective throwing downfield.
Give him plays he is absolutely comfortable with and go from there. He will learn from this for sure, but a lot more of yesterday's loss was defense inability to stop the option.
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