[CinciFlame]

Last year after the ODU and Coastal game I asked the simple question, is TG the man for the job? I got roasted on this board. After another half of a season I'm asking the same question. We've still not won a big game. I've watched every Liberty game this season. We've got lots of issues. Waiting until halftime to make adjustments is just not good football. Other teams often make adjustments after the first series. Teams are catching on to our bend but don't break defense. So what do you think App State is going to do tomorrow? They're going to come out and throw a ton of short passes and move the ball down the field. Frustrating to watch.

[Purple Haize]

Last year after the ODU and Coastal game I asked the simple question, is TG the man for the job? I got roasted on this board. After another half of a season I'm asking the same question. We've still not won a big game. I've watched every Liberty game this season. We've got lots of issues. Waiting until halftime to make adjustments is just not good football. Other teams often make adjustments after the first series. Teams are catching on to our bend but don't break defense. So what do you think App State is going to do tomorrow? They're going to come out and throw a ton of short passes and move the ball down the field. Frustrating to watch.

Actually good teams and good coaches make half time adjustments. I'm sure you watch football on Sat and Sun, how many times do they mention half time adjustments as a good thing?
As for TG, the answer is still yes.

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When it comes to making in game adjustments the thing that would baffle me is how if you go back and look at earlier positional breakdowns how it was stated by coaches that we had such smart players on the field, how they were extensions of the coaches but on the field. Either two things are evident here, the players are not being asked what they are seeing or asked and what's being said is not heeded. It can't be both, and I know good coaches do listen to players after hearing and discerning what they are saying.

[Purple Haize]

When it comes to making in game adjustments the thing that would baffle me is how if you go back and look at earlier positional breakdowns how it was stated by coaches that we had such smart players on the field, how they were extensions of the coaches but on the field. Either two things are evident here, the players are not being asked what they are seeing or asked and what's being said is not heeded. It can't be both, and I know good coaches do listen to players after hearing and discerning what they are saying.

Option 3: the players arent able to execute. For instance, they can run the perfect pattern, be open by 10 yards.......and drop the ball. What in game or half time adjustments would fix that?

[PAmedic]

I may be the only person to feel this way but the reaction and continued coverage of "the kick" is starting to worry me a bit. We're coming off a few losses that we should have won not just for where we want to be as a program but in our current position and missed opportunities to take that next step. I'm not saying there shouldn't be excitement but when you look at post game interviews you would swear it was the game winner. As of yesterday there are still interviews and coverage focusing on it. To me it comes across as the players & media being satisfied with a moral victory as if we chalk it up as a W (or at least a shared W ).

I think it's a distraction and if I was HCTG I would have addressed it one time in the locker room/presser and congratulated him, but after that the team is no longer discussing it and it's 100% App State. No more smiles and talking about one moment as if it was the result you went into the game expecting. Their mentality and what they are projecting is beginning to worry me.

/rant

HELLO.... THIS... EXACTLY

I was thinking I'm the only one raging about this... thank God for HMO

sitting there reading tweets about the kick, sports center, etc... yelling at the computer "YOU GUYS KNOW WE LOST, RIGHT?"

[JK37]

TG deserves more time, he's going to get it, and I hope I'm wrong about it.

Coaching changes generally occur for one of two reasons: 1) Things are really bad, and 2) things are great and HC gets a chance at bigger and better. Funny thing is, DR left for BOTH reasons. Richmond was getting a good coach, and on LU's end behind the scenes certain things were so bad he was graciously given the chance to choose to leave before being fired.

It was a unique changeover, but it meant TG couldn't have the charge from a quick fix. He had to pick up the baton and carry it further. The results aren't there yet, and the next step is a playoff berth, so that's the expectation. Anything les is what we did with the previous guy.

Later does affect Gill from an administrative standpoint. That's just the reality of the business.

One poster asked why Layer would go this year as opposed to previous years. It was asked what would he be doing different? Repeating it for a fourth year is different than three years. The fact nothing is changing would lend more cause.

Back to Gill, his assistants are on oins and needles because Gill's urgency took a huge leap forward this year. I know we're not seeing the results on the field we would hope we would, but I believe he is poised to make changes after THIS season if the improvements aren't seen. After he has a chance to address his own staff concerns, a year later it may be decided he is the one that needs to go. But no sooner.

[JK37]

Btw, one personal observation: Gill NEVER yells at or gets in his players' faces. The reason why is simple: did you ever see Osborne do it? We talk about finding an ASSOCHC to answer administrative shortfalls, let's also find a guy who will answer this one. I don't see it right now, and numerous inside sources confirm this. There have definitely been times it was needed, and it wasn't done.

[ProudPapa73]

I actually feel like most analysts say that in the modern game halftime adjustments are overrated, and that you have to be able to fix stuff on the fly.

With that being said, my comment has nothing to do with my opinion on TG's administration.

Agree some of the most effective strategy is in game, real time. Ex., Corner goes out, go after his replacement etc. Adjustments are not just the coaches' responsibility. Smart players know what needs to be done as well. I've worked as an 'in-game scout' focusing specifically on real time opportunities and adjustments. We taught our guys to tell us as soon as they notice something...a gimpy D lineman, a player taking plays off etc. Nothing like a couple big plays due to real time adjustments, often the difference in the end.
Bigger picture, the best adjustment a coach can make is adjusting their scheme to suit their talent. When you can't recruit to your scheme then you modify your scheme to suit the talent you've recruited...play to your strengths.
So my question is, is playing a soft D playing to our (talent) strength, to our coaches immutable scheme or both?
Our offense can score points. Now we need or D to stop others from doing the same. We do that and its time for us to adjust as well...our expectations...as we run the Big South.
Go Flames!!!

[Kolzilla41]

Btw, one personal observation: Gill NEVER yells at or gets in his players' faces. The reason why is simple: did you ever see Osborne do it? We talk about finding an ASSOCHC to answer administrative shortfalls, let's also find a guy who will answer this one. I don't see it right now, and numerous inside sources confirm this. There have definitely been times it was needed, and it wasn't done.

Disagree. I've seen him do it three times this year in person. The awful 4 series at UNC, a personal foul versus Bryant, and also at the Richmond game. It's a darned if you do, darned if you don't deal. If I am a player, I would prefer TG over DR. DR also didn't show that much emotion when he was here. In fact, when Richmond intercepted the ball and he ran out to the 50 yd line fisting pumping, it ticked me off a little. Granted, I just watched Liberty loose so I took it with a grain of salt.

[Cider Jim]

thank God for HMO

Another FF man crush?

[Purple Haize]

TG deserves more time, he's going to get it, and I hope I'm wrong about it.

Coaching changes generally occur for one of two reasons: 1) Things are really bad, and 2) things are great and HC gets a chance at bigger and better. Funny thing is, DR left for BOTH reasons. Richmond was getting a good coach, and on LU's end behind the scenes certain things were so bad he was graciously given the chance to choose to leave before being fired.

It was a unique changeover, but it meant TG couldn't have the charge from a quick fix. He had to pick up the baton and carry it further. The results aren't there yet, and the next step is a playoff berth, so that's the expectation. Anything les is what we did with the previous guy.

Later does affect Gill from an administrative standpoint. That's just the reality of the business.

One poster asked why Layer would go this year as opposed to previous years. It was asked what would he be doing different? Repeating it for a fourth year is different than three years. The fact nothing is changing would lend more cause.

Back to Gill, his assistants are on oins and needles because Gill's urgency took a huge leap forward this year. I know we're not seeing the results on the field we would hope we would, but I believe he is poised to make changes after THIS season if the improvements aren't seen. After he has a chance to address his own staff concerns, a year later it may be decided he is the one that needs to go. But no sooner.

Spoken like someone with coaching experience

[JK37]

Not that any of it is worth a darn!