Anything and everything about Liberty Flames football. Your comments on games, recruiting and the direction of the program as we move into new era.

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By Humble_Opinion
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#460662
Wow is Coastal really expected to be that good this year? Also just realized that N. Dakota State trounced Iowa St. 34-14.
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By PAmedic
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1. yes
2. UNI could very well have beaten Iowa
3. 'Nova should have beaten 'Cuse

besides P5, the more I watch some of these G5 teams the sicker it makes me. we could compete. immediately.

sigh
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By Sly Fox
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#461360
9/8 AGS Poll wrote:1 North Dakota State Bison 2288 (83)
2 Eastern Washington Eagles 2115 (7)
3 Southeastern Louisiana Lions 2069 (1)
4 Villanova Wildcats 1910 1
5 Northern Iowa Panthers 1893
6 New Hampshire Wildcats 1658
7 Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 1598
8 McNeese State Cowboys 1579
9 Montana Grizzlies 1572
10 South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1509
11 Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1503
12 Furman Paladins 1049
13 Southern Illinois Salukis 1027
14 William & Mary Tribe 982
15 Richmond Spiders 905
16 Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 671
17 Youngstown State Penguins 644
18 Chattanooga Mocs 533
19 Maine Black Bears 512
20 Fordham Rams 506
21 Sam Houston State Bearkats 496
22 Central Arkansas Bears 488
23 Montana State Bobcats 416
24 Eastern Kentucky Colonels 346
25 Eastern Illinois Panthers 206

Most Significant Win:
Villanova Wildcats

Most Significant Loss:
Fordham Rams

ORV:
26 Tennessee State Tigers 150
27 Princeton Tigers 146
28 Sacred Heart Pioneers 136
29 Liberty Flames 129
30 Illinois State Redbirds 122
31 Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 87
32 Wofford Terriers 83
33T James Madison Dukes 70
33T Albany Great Danes 70
35 Missouri State Bears 63
36 North Carolina A&T Aggies 54
37 Charleston Southern Buccaneers 35
38 Bryant Bulldogs 34

39 Bucknell Bison 31
40 Samford Bulldogs 29
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By Sly Fox
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#461363
9/8 TSN Poll wrote:1. North Dakota State Bison (137) 2-0 3928 1
2. Eastern Washington Eagles (21) 2-1 3744 2
3. Southeastern Louisiana Lions 2-0 3613 3
4. Montana Grizzlies 1-1 3249 4
5. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 2-0 3023 5
6. McNeese State Cowboys 0-1 2971 7
7. New Hampshire Wildcats 0-1 2964 6
8. Villanova Wildcats 1-1 2919 10
9. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 1-1 2790 9
10. Northern Iowa Panthers 0-1 2682 8
11. South Dakota State Jackrabbits 1-1 2407 12
12. Furman Paladins 2-0 1523 19
13. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 1-0 1473 18
14. Chattanooga Mocs 0-2 1460 13
15. Sam Houston State Bearkats 1-2 1376 15
16. William & Mary Tribe 1-1 1325 21
17. Montana State Bobcats 1-1 1289 20
18. Richmond Spiders 1-1 1229 17
19. Fordham Rams 1-1 1223 11
20. Southern Illinois Salukis 2-0 1180 NR
21. Youngstown State Penguins 1-1 863 23
22. Tennessee State Tigers 1-1 762 14
23. Maine Black Bears 1-0 635 24
24. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 1-1 549 25
25. Eastern Illinois Panthers 0-2 479 16

Others receiving votes: Towson 261, Liberty 235, Central Arkansas 204, Eastern Kentucky 142, Wofford 100, Delaware 84, Princeton 75, SC State 73, Samford 72, Albany 61, James Madison 50, Harvard 41, Alabama State 36, Southern Utah 35, North Carolina A&T 33, Charleston Southern 32, Missouri State 22, Sacred Heart 22, Illinois State 21, Southern 14, Alcorn State 12, Sacramento State 11, Cal Poly 11, Gardner-Webb 8, Florida A&M 8, Bryant 7, Western Illinois 7, Central Connecticut State 7, SE Missouri State 4, Texas Southern 2, Western Carolina 1, San Diego 1, Duquesne 1, Bucknell 1.
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By thepostman
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I am glad we haven't risen to the top 25 yet, I like a slow climb.
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By VAGolf
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#461372
Isn't ags just a fan poll?

Also, Furman is no where near the 12th best team in the country, and how on earth is EIU still ranked? EKU should be about 20th.

I wonder if the voters slept all weekend.
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By Sly Fox
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#461376
Yeah, AGS is a fan poll but has a ton of voters who allegedly pay attention to all of FCS. Although that poll would indicate that historical biasas supercede results at times.
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By BJWilliams
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#461377
I think if we are 4-1 following ISUb, youll see us in the top 25 (unless there is some serious upheaval at the lower end, and even then I still dont think we are ready)
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By flameshaw
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I think Coastal and Furman are overrated, especially Furman. I guess things will settle in before year end. Don't think we need to be rated 22 yet either. If we beat Indiana State, then we should be rated. I see that game as a classic trap game though, on the road, the week before Homecoming against Richmond. Hope I am wrong about that.
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By flameshaw
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PAmedic wrote:Til proven otherwise CCU's ranking seems about right
Beating A&T by 1 point? I realize it is early and they may have overlooked the Aggies, but they have a very weak schedule as I recall and see them riding that wave to a high rating all year. As one example, McNeese State appears to be a much better team and is ranked lower.
I know it is good for our conference to have a team ranked, etc. but Coastal seems to be ranked higher than they should be almost every year, based on their on-field accomplishments. Some teams in FBS and FCS just seem to get more than their share of love, ie. media darlings. IMVVVVHO.
By ballcoach15
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#461541
I might be wrong but I don't think Coastal is a Top 10 team. For some reason unknown to me, Coastal always seems to get a lot of love from Pollsters.
By Chris Lang
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#461548
It's combination of a lot of people coming back from last season, a quarterfinal appearance and others around them losing games early. You know me. I'm a proponent of waiting until week 4 to start the FCS poll. I'm not sure they're a top-10 team, but they're ranked right where they're supposed to be, if that makes any sense.
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By bluejacket
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#461549
Chris Lang wrote:It's combination of a lot of people coming back from last season, a quarterfinal appearance and others around them losing games early. You know me. I'm a proponent of waiting until week 4 to start the FCS poll. I'm not sure they're a top-10 team, but they're ranked right where they're supposed to be, if that makes any sense.
Yes.
By Chippy
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#461555
BuryYourDuke wrote:People used to say that about us. "Why is Liberty consistently in the polls? They don't beat anyone."

Coastal is getting love this year because they won in the playoffs, and returned a lot of guys. They beat Montana on the road and made it to the Quarters. They lost to the eventual National Champions. If we made it as far as they did, and returned what they did, we would feel deserving of a top 5 ranking. Polls aren't supposed to be about past results, but everyone knows they are.
Plus they have the BSC preseason offensive and defensive POY.
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By BJWilliams
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#461557
Lang is spot on as usual. I will say that they can't repeat 5 turnover games like that much like we can't repeat games like we we had against UNC otherwise they could get knocked off their perch
By thepostman
#461561
BJWilliams wrote:Lang is spot on as usual. I will say that they can't repeat 5 turnover games like that much like we can't repeat games like we we had against UNC otherwise they could get knocked off their perch
fun fact of the night, you have mentioned Lang being right directly in nearly 200 posts in your FlameFans tenure. Man Crush Monday was yesterday man... :P
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By BJWilliams
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#461563
Very funny...I like his perspective. He adds to the discussion without sacrificing professionalism and journalistic integrity. As a writer, I appreciate that sort of thing...I'm getting to that point with BYD and manson with all the work they put into FlamesNation
By thepostman
#461567
Oh wow!! They should be honored!
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By BJWilliams
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#461573
Your sarcasm is duly noted once again postie...anyway, if we can get on a nice roll here starting with Bryant next week (since its pretty well assumed we will win this weekend), we will get back into the polls as well. I dont see us getting anywhere near the top 10 unless we did not lose a game (including App State) leading up to the Coastal Carolina game in November
By C4CFlame17
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VAGolf wrote:Isn't ags just a fan poll?

Also, Furman is no where near the 12th best team in the country, and how on earth is EIU still ranked? EKU should be about 20th.

I wonder if the voters slept all weekend.
Why thank you very much. This EKU alum will take that comliment but still feel nervous about EKU being ranked. As a fan I look at it as we beat a partial scholarship team on the road and beat a very bad FBS team on the road. Both games EKU fans felt they should of won regardless.

EIU is still ranked because they are like CCU. They made a deep run in the playoffs last year and have played 2 FBS teams this year.
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